Wrapping up our HIGH OCTANE KILLS triple feature, we’re popping our collars and spiking our mullets to meet Skynet’s body-building, face-shooting Cyberdyne cyborg, The T-800, in James Cameron’s THE TERMINATOR, starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, Linda Hamilton, Michael Biehn, Lance Henriksen, Earl Boen, and Bill Paxton.
Wrapping up our HIGH OCTANE KILLS triple feature, we’re popping our collars and spiking our mullets to meet Skynet’s body-building, face-shooting Cyberdyne cyborg, The T-800, in James Cameron’s THE TERMINATOR, starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, Linda Hamilton, Michael Biehn, Lance Henriksen, Earl Boen, and Bill Paxton.
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Today we wrap up our high octane Kills triple feature with James Cameron's 1984 sci fi shoot em up. The robot dicks are dangling. The 80s here is tangling, and horny time travelers turn out to be exact. You can't say the dicks are dangling in. The hair is tangling. You can't see where are their dicks? Where are their dicks?
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I miss the dicks. Oh, wait, we're going to talk about some dicks. Arnold's big old cock is showing it in this movie. You need to go back and watch it. It is like right when he's about to kill the punks. You must watch the new version. No. So apparently I had heard about this a while back. That when they had filmed it for the way that movies were viewed back in the 80s, you just couldn't see it.
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Now, with these, like, digital remasters and televisions, it's pretty clear. So, yeah, go back and check it out. I'm looking at I'm trying to find, Arnold's big swinging dick here. Oh, it looks great. Yeah, when it's like the far away shot. And he's walking and you see it. Yeah. It's a balloon. Yeah. It's big old boy.
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Big old. Yeah. I wonder if it's bent. It could. I was just going to say it curves to the left. You know who probably has a bent penis is Dustin Hoffman. Why Captain hook? Oh. Thank you. Okay. The robot dicks are dangling. The 80s here is tangling, and horny time travelers turn out to be the secret to saving the human race.
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As we pop our collars and spike our mullets to meet Skynet. Bodybuilding safe shooting Cyberdyne. Cyborg. The T-800 in the Terminator. You're listening to how I Met Your Monster. A podcast that explores the introductions to your favorite movie monsters. My name is Zack. I'm Danny and I'm Casey, and together we dive into the world of horror to find out how filmmakers have introduced us to our favorite monsters time and time again.
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Welcome to how I Met Your Monster, the show where we discussed the introductions to your favorite movie, monsters. Today marks the end of our high octane kills. Triple feature. And, we could not be going out in a better fashion. 80s fashion. 80s fashion? Yeah. 80s fashion. Also the same as year 2029. Fashion. They're basically wearing the same thing in the future as they are in the past.
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Yeah. Oh, that cracked me up when it said 2029. Yeah. I'm like, they had big dreams. Yeah. Well, hey, the way things are going, no, that's only four years away. That, no, there's a possibility. Yeah. You get Elon Musk driving one of those big fucking hunter killer drones. He's like, oh, I can't make it to Mars.
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I'll just, make a I would take a robot war against humans over like an Elon Musk led revolution, you know what I mean? Like, if he was the villain, I was fighting like Earth. Let's your fucking timelines sucks. Fucking Arnold dick. I mean, villains are usually fucking nerds, so it makes sense. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. I mean, it is kind of like, he's like the worst bond villain.
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Yeah. You know where you're like, what's the motive? What is his plan? This is so stupid. But, yeah, but guys, we're talking about the Terminator. If you haven't, picked up on that yet. Yeah, yeah. If you didn't look at the James title of Cameron's. Yeah, James Cameron's, The Terminator, which, speaking of fashion, there's a little bit of product placement in here, which seems kind of crazy because I don't think Nike would have, like.
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I mean, maybe they did to, like, agree to have because this was like a low budget, like James Cameron had only made Piranha two and he had been like fired off of that. And this was like they were scrapping pieces together to make this happen. So it would be weird if Nike was like, hey, let's put this shoe in your in your fucking movie.
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But there's like a very prominent close up of the Nike shoes that Kyle Reese was. Maybe they did it for James Cameron. They felt so bad for him and they were like, you can do it. Like, this is just for you. This is a you can do it, you filmmaker from fucking. Well look at him now.
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Yeah. Nike fame at the, the CEO of Nike in 1984 famously loved piranha to the spawning. And he had a soft spot for truck drivers. So he was like, I don't know, find me that filmmaker. Yeah, I want to be in his next movie. So before we start the show, as always, I'd like to remind everyone listening that if you are not subscribed on your favorite podcast platform, whether that be Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts, please hit the follow button, hit the Little plus button on Apple.
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So, yeah, let's talk about the Terminator. Danny, this was your pick for our high octane Kills triple feature, and it was so good. I had realized as I was watching it, I knew that I had never seen the whole thing before. But while watching it, I realized there was a good amount that I had seen, but never all at one time.
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And watching it from start to finish. I mean, you know, the preferred method of watching a movie. It was so fucking good. I loved it. I know, I, I had rented it because it's not streaming right now, or at least at the time of our recording. This. And I'm a little bummed that I didn't just buy it because I could kind of just put it on.
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Right now. It's one of those movies between the soundtrack and kind of the just like the it's just like a simple movie in the best way. I mean that as a compliment, like it's just where I was going to get into it. So I'm not going to like jump into the plot. I'm assuming everyone has seen it already, but it's just so like it's so digestible.
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Like the story is complicated, but the setup of the like, the narrative is simple. Yeah. And then I was thinking like wow do I like this. And it might be I have to take a longer time to process this. But I'm like do I like it better then Terminator two which I've seen a whole bunch times.
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And then I'm thinking like, okay, is it just because it's new to me that I am excited about it, or is it better? But when you think about it, they're two like totally different. Yeah. Movies. Yeah. You know, direct sequels, but totally different in style and and well, I mean, that even goes so far as to like the sort of like sub genre that this movie exists in, where I would maybe argue that.
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I mean, we're obviously aside from the fact that we're pretty flexible with the movies that we choose. I do think we'd maybe make a better case for putting the original Terminator on our show than the sequel. Right? Is that's like such a, like, classic action movie, or as this one kind of exists in the horror realm. So to judge like to base like what's your favorite of the two is really difficult.
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Yeah. Because they feel so just I admit not okay. Maybe that's traumatic to to say they're diametrically opposed but they're almost like the same story told through very different lenses. Sure. You know, even the hero in part two is the villain in the first one. Like it's it's everything's darker in the first, everything's grungy year. Whereas everything in the sequel is very sleek.
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There is this sense of, heroism where even, like, spoiler alert, like one of our heroes in this movie just straight up dies in the end. Yeah, it's very somber. It's a very somber view of like, where we're going where as part two is like, let's walk that back. Yeah. So, yeah, I don't know. I've been having that.
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I've been asking myself that question too. Like, what do I prefer? Yeah, I don't know. Casey, what do you think about this movie? Is this your first watch? Yeah. I grew up watching the second one as well. Yeah, I liked it, but, I can't take Arnold Schwarzenegger seriously. Watch. For real. It's not. So. It looks like a fucking doofus.
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Dude, when he. When his eyebrows get burnt off, it's like, because this suit is fucking scary. Because. Listen, because instead of taking a glue stick and putting some fucking corrective color and foundation on that shit, they decided to put a fucking appliance over his eyebrows. For some reason, it looks like dog shit. Okay, so that was distracting.
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This is why we need you, Casey. Because I didn't notice that. Oh, well, I was just like a dumb ass. It's like, this is so fun. You go to school for special effects, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I noticed that, like, he didn't have eyebrows, but it, like, made it made him creepy. I was like, oh, no, I just staring at all the makeup was, so distracting.
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I don't think he's scary. I just think he's looks so silly. Like trying really hard to be scary. And he's not. I thought it was scary at the end when he was a robot. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, that part was scary. I had this moment when I had first fully watched, this movie, for the for the first time, I was kind of surprised by how handsome Arnold Schwarzenegger is in this movie.
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Because I always just know Arnold as like the action hero. Yeah. And to see him in this very early role with very like minimal dialog. So it's it, it really is just like a visual. And I was like wow, he's so handsome and like yada yada yada. And then to see that like how he's broken down.
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Yeah. Visually in order to show that he's not a human being. I thought they did a really good job with which I thought, and maybe it is because I have like that surprised, like response to how he looked initially in the movie. And I'm not just saying that because he was naked. I was gonna say, you just like girl.
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I thought he looked great in a jacket to, I think it made me especially kind of aware of how disorienting he looked like with just, like, subtle changes. Like. Like Zach, like you said, like the lack of eyebrows. Or obviously, when you start to see, like, his, the endoskeleton being shown through the skin. That's what I loved about the movie.
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And I think that's why I think Schwarzenegger, aside from like, we're obviously going to talk his performance as we go, but like just from like visual, a visual standpoint, I thought that's why the casting, it was just done very well because he is such like a spectacle to look at. He's so big and he's so handsome and he's so like, he's this like literally like, I don't know, like just a model.
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You get it? Any you think Arnold Schwarzenegger is hot? Yeah, we know he's got a huge dick, Danny. We know. And then that penis, just like. I mean, you can't escape it. You've seen the video of him talking about coming right now from Pumping Iron. Yeah. His documentary. Yeah. What is this? Just for a research, company iron is the name of the documentary, and he talks about how when you work out, it feels like coming.
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Yeah. When I work out, it feels like I'm crying. Yeah, like I'm dying. Yeah. We're doing, like, as close to death as I've ever been. We're doing something wrong. He used to like. And he says this, I think, in the documentary, he used to tell other bodybuilders bullshit advice. I was going to say on purpose. Yeah, that's so that guess get further in, like, yeah, those shows, so, Danny, you think that Arnold is so handsome as a Terminator?
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Do you know who was originally set to play the Terminator? So much to answer. A man who was called too likable to play the character, which is hilarious. Oh, really? Assuming we're talking about the same actor who was also an athlete turned actor, by the way, we should mention. Really? Well, I wonder if we're talking about the same person, Lance Henriksen.
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Oh, yeah. Right. We're not talking about the same person. Oh, yeah. Lance Henriksen. Wait wait wait wait. Danny, was it OJ Simpson? Yeah. Oh, he's just too like he's too likable. We want a Terminator. Someone who literally was a Terminator. Okay. Yeah. He literally murdered people. Yeah, OJ was also. Yeah. Intox. But Lance Henriksen, James Cameron had worked with him on Piranha two, and he brought him in, and he was supposed to, like Lance.
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He had done all this, like, stuff to, like, beat attorneys, like, put, like, metal on his teeth. And he did all this stuff to, like, act like the Terminator. And he, like, went into the audition, with the executives and, like, they were, like, freaked out because he was supposed to arrive with James Cameron and James Cameron was late or something.
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And so Lance was just there, like freaking people covered in aluminum foil. I feel like that's the first time Lance that went into Kasey aged freaking out. Well, there's also like he also did. James Cameron also did like a painting of Lance Henriksen where, like, half his face is like the fucking endoskeleton. And then somebody gave Arnold the script, and he wanted to meet with James Cameron and James Cameron, like, was like.
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No, but he wanted to go in for Kyle Reese. Reese. Yeah. And James Cameron was like, no, I don't want this. But since I'm so new, I can't just turn away Arnold. I have to like. That's funny. Play ball. So he had planned to meet Arnold and make Arnold not like him so that they didn't get along. And then they would just, like, fall apart.
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But when he met with them, Arnold was like, hey, I want to play the Terminator and not calories. And then he was like, looked at. And he's like, actually, he'd be really good. And so once they got Arnold to sign on as The Terminator, then they got greenlit. Wow. Wow. He sold out Lance Henriksen. What a little bitch.
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Yeah, yeah. So so yeah. OJ Simpson to I can't imagine, like, genuinely can't imagine OJ Simpson obviously like we now only know the Terminator as this bulking figure. But then I guess if you look at something like T2 and even some of the other Terminator sequels, a lot of the actors who play the the kind of like cyborg villains are, as you know, visually menacing, like they're not bodybuilder types.
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So. Right. I guess it's just hard to remove that from it. Okay, I just sent you guys the picture of Lance Henriksen as the Terminator. Check that out. Who I like this. Is this official? This is the real one? Yeah, that's James Cameron painted that. Oh, wow. That's cool. See, this feels even more horror, right? It's like, because Lance Henriksen is such, like, a spooky kind of look to him.
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Yeah. You know, it's funny. Lance Henriksen is the background on my laptop. For real? Yeah, because I'm Pumpkinhead background. Oh, nice. Okay, so, yeah, that would have been. I mean, Lance Henriksen would have been cool, but he was ultimately in the movie, as the, I loved his character in the movie. He was like, he was always trying to, like, tell stories and getting shut down by the captain or whatever.
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Yeah, that was good. It was weird seeing him as sort of like the I imagine he would be the captain character, like the tougher one, but he was a little on the, I don't know, like, you were kind of supposed to not like him as much as the captain. Yeah, but yeah, I still love him. But, do you guys know where the entire fabric of this entire franchise was originally weaved?
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Like where the idea came from, woven in. Tell us, Danny, I will tell you, it literally came from a fever dream. James Cameron was in Italy, in Rome, and he was very sick and poor guy. Poor guy. Second row, I know. Oh, man. White summer. No, but he was sick in Rome, and he had a dream that a robotic skeleton creature figure was coming toward him through flames, through fire.
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And he drew it up. So a lot of even though he obviously James Cameron got all this, like, Greek, creative team together. Oh, sure. We'll talk about to construct the, T-800, the Terminator. James Cameron actually had a pretty heavy hand in the overall look of it. And he had he had done some sketches, which ended up becoming what we obviously now know to be the T-800.
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So I just thought that was really fun. Yeah, yeah. I heard Stan Winston talking about like doing that coming up with all these designs, but then like James Cameron's visuals were ultimately like the best. Yeah. And so he was kind of like, okay, we'll work on this. And then he like took it to his team and he was like, guys, this is what we're doing.
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And that's funny. He was like joking in an interview. And he was like, yeah. And so it was kind of his thing, but I still take credit for it. He's like, he's like, and I'm not sorry for it. Cameron is known for being very much a, like a true auteur where like, he. Yeah, he has a true vision.
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Right. And he will make it so, for better or worse. Yeah, I know his reputation precedes him. And I'm sure there's plenty of tabloids and rumors about who he is behind the scenes, but, you can't deny the fact that the man is a hell of a filmmaker. Yeah. Yeah, but, Casey, I thought you would appreciate this if you didn't already know it, but Rob butane was originally offered the role as special effects artist on this film.
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But do you know what film he was working on that prevented him from doing The Terminator? Oh, I would have to think. And I don't want to do that. He was working on the thing. Oh, but then Rob routine or it was either Rob routine or something, or maybe they just went to, Dick Smith, who did, makeup for films like The Exorcist and The Sentinel and Scanners.
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He recommended Stan Winston, who was fairly new in his career. He's very early in his career at the time, saying that they already knew who Robertson was and he hadn't really done anything yet. So, yeah, I actually don't know enough about him. So yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, I wonder because like, cause it was low budget. Yeah. They were like, found someone.
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Maybe his name was enough of, well, James Cameron and, his writing partner and producer on this gal and heard, they came up together in, like, the Roger Corman world. And so I wonder if Rob Booth will run and produced Piranha two. Okay, so that makes sense that there's something. Yeah, but I'm wondering where, like, maybe there's a connection with Rob poutine somewhere in that that, like, maybe that's why they went to him.
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Maybe they knew him from somewhere, I don't know. And if at this point he wasn't the Rob routine that we know him today, maybe he was just, you know, less expensive, but good. You know, he clearly is, kind of a wonder kid with, practical effects. So imagine what the thing would have been like without him. Sorry.
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I know we're not talking about that movie. Or can you imagine what the Terminator would be like with with him? Yeah, but if it was just the thing like this, isn't it? This is. Now look at. But he did it. We don't have enough money to, go back. Yeah. No, but, when Stan Winston came on, obviously that, jumpstarted a massive, decades long career with, in collaboration with James Cameron.
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And as far as the 800 goes, which it's fairly, I mean, this is pretty much speaks for itself when you watch the movie, but, it is the actual, like, endoskeleton. Part of it is a combination of stop motion and a wearable suit that was actually puppeteers. It was a this giant metal puppet strapped onto this puppeteer named Shane.
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My hands, shoulders. And then they had obviously other people working the eyes and movements and whatnot, but I just thought that was pretty cool that you think of like, this day and age. Yeah. I mean, there literally are Terminator sequels where it's just CG. Yeah, well, the puppet looks really good, I couldn't tell. Yeah, obviously, like you can tell when the when they do the stop motion and stuff, but it's like, right.
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It's like an animatronic. I think they made a full size animatronic for like 1 or 2 shots. But like anytime that you see the Terminator from just like the chest up, like the, the endoskeleton from like the chest up, that's what Danny was describing. Like somebody is wearing that on their shoulders and like moving around and then the feet when it's like walking up the stairs and stuff like that.
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Those were like separate pieces and just like insert shots, which that's so cool how they just like how you can like, envision that and be like, okay, here's what we can do. We won't have to make the whole thing move. We'll make this part move, you know, and then we'll shoot it like this and we'll do it like that.
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Yeah. That's just so I love it. Yeah. I would also be remiss to not find out the fact that this early on, you're going to be remiss. This early is pretty early. It's a pretty early. No, he's not being remiss. Not oh yes. It's a lack of remiss. Yeah a lack of admission. That's how you know it's gonna be good.
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Like there's like there's nothing much remiss already. Yeah. So early on but I just want to give a nice little shout out to two people before we get before we kick this episode off. Stan Winston, who is credited as the special Terminator effects creator. He's an Oscar winning makeup and SFX designer, who's won Oscars for aliens, Terminator two and Jurassic Park.
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He also has done another how I Met Your Monster movie that we have done, End of Days. I also want to give a shout out to the makeup department head, Jeff Dawn. After this movie, he has basically been the makeup head on every single one of Arnold Schwarzenegger's movies. So clearly a very positive relationship. Happened here.
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Other how I Met Your Monster. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Will. Yeah, I know Casey. Danny missed a very big stand out in credit, but, But let's let him finish talking about Jeff done. And then we're going to come back and and point out his mistake to his face. Okay. I also want to point out a few other how in your monster movies that he did the makeup for Jingle All the Way, Deep Blue Sea.
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Yes. And End of Days, and, Dawn actually shares an Oscar with Stand Winston for their work on Terminator two, the sequel to the movie we are about to talk about. So cool. Oh, okay. Okay. Oh, yeah. I mean, I guess Arnold was just, like, fucking. I guess he's just like a treat to work with. I mean, at least that back then, I don't know, you know, if that's still the thing, but it's still the case.
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But that's cute. Gentle. They said like, people would be, like, hard on themselves and tired. Southern Arnold was always, like, cracking jokes and making people laugh and do stuff like that. So, so yeah, he must had a good, good relationship with Jeff. Dawn. But Danny Dinh, what's the Stan Winston credit that maybe is a perfect horror movie that Casey maybe loves, that maybe Lance Henriksen is in that maybe Stan Winston actually directed.
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I actually think I, I remember seeing this. I mean, I was going through IMDb and there's enough like it for me, and I even as I was looking at it, I was like, I feel like I'm missing something because I was putting an emphasis in my notes on movie. He, he's won Oscars for. Okay. But I guys, I would be remiss to again not point out the fact that Stan Winston did the makeup effects for the Lance Henriksen classic in a movie we have done on the pod.
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Yeah. Pumpkinhead. Yeah, yeah, it's on her damn background monitor. Yeah, right now her background. Yeah, G damn it, damn it, damn it! The only film he ever directed. Oh, I did not know that. Didn't he do, a no name norm? Was that a short amount came from. Well, no, it's got, Anthony Michael Hall in it. Did he do it?
00:27:09:01 - 00:27:34:05
Yeah, I think so. I thought I thought, oh, we need to do that on the podcast. Is it a horror movie? No. It's like a stupid little sort of a kid's movie, but not a kid's movie at all. Stan. My man, what are you doing, man? I am, question for Zach. Is pumpkin head behind the Patreon paywall or is it accessible to all of our listeners?
00:27:34:07 - 00:28:04:23
So Pumpkin Head is actually episode 21. Is it really that early? Yeah, it is. And so, that is only available to Patreon subscribers at this time. So guys, what are you waiting for? What are you waiting for Patreon for? What are you waiting for? What am I waiting for? What for? So yeah, that is only available to Patreon subscribers.
00:28:04:23 - 00:28:29:12
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Yeah. So stop budgeting. Quit drinking coffee. Only subscribe to our page. Here is what I'm trying to say. Where the only thing you should be paying for to of your bills. Yeah. No, but we actually, if you join at the maniac level, we also have commentary episodes every month. That are a lot of fun. Check it out.
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Patreon.com slash, how I Met Your Monster. And actually, do you guys want to do some Patreon member shout outs? Zach, I thought you'd never ask. I need a jack break. Oh, Jack, we need to do a jack break case in a jacket. Quick break. Yeah. Jack break. Yeah. So, listen, is Casey is a bit tired today, all right?
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She just got off of, 11 hour work day, and so, well, she's going to jack off. And by Jack off, we mean do jumping jacks. Yeah. So, All right, Casey, kind of off. No, I'm not going. No, I'm going to mute the mic and call her. You're on the air live on how I Met Your Monster.
00:29:32:02 - 00:29:37:21
Okay, I'm going to do. I'm going to jacket.
00:29:37:24 - 00:30:07:10
Okay. Casey has jacked the shit out of her. So we just watched, like, a really just, like, high octane jam sesh just now. To see it, sign up for our Patreon. Hey, man. Whatever it takes, whatever it takes. Just kidding. That is not, that is not true. We will not we will not put Casey's Jack session for sale on Patreon.
00:30:07:13 - 00:30:14:08
I'm fully close. Sorry. I just pulled it through my pants. Go get.
00:30:14:11 - 00:30:42:14
All right. Well, yeah. Let's do some Patreon member shout outs. And, yes, we have decided here at how I Met Your Monster that our Patreon shout outs will be read in our best impression. Voices. You know, if you know the pod, you know we've we've put on some really just like, great a impressions. Yeah. Not offensive in the slightest to know who we may be impersonating.
00:30:42:17 - 00:31:10:20
And we're bringing it back just for you. Yeah, because we love you so goddamn much. So here are some, new Patreon subscribers. First of all, thank you all for supporting the show. And, following along with us. And, I'm going to say, well, I'm not going to say Angela from Knight of the demons is going to say a special shout out to Carly.
00:31:10:23 - 00:31:28:18
Oh, I got. I forgot we were recording in the house from Hull House. Yeah. So thank you very much, Carly Wolf, for, joining Patreon. Definitely just funny. Yeah.
00:31:28:20 - 00:31:46:01
Hull house money. Oh, house money. There you go. And, I don't know if I have any other impressions, but, well, we. Well, let's be honest, I don't think there's anything wrong with being honest with our listeners, especially our patrons who are paying for the service. So the least the last thing we should do is lie.
00:31:46:07 - 00:32:18:03
Okay, I'm just going to say it. We our budget could only afford to bring in three different people. We have Angela, the demon from Knight of the demons. Hello. We have, actually, we have the Terminator from The Terminator. Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yes. Hello, Arnold. Hello. It's nice to meet you. And, we have some woman from Boston.
00:32:18:05 - 00:32:54:07
Yeah, we have some with some woman from Boston who is also a transplant from Long Island. Guys, I don't even know how to do the accent. We know. Okay, I'm just giving you, Okay. Welcome to the show, Long Island. Woman. Yeah, I'm from Boston. Boston. Woman. Hello. Hello. Hello. There you go. There you go. Yeah. We've probably only retained the listeners that are friends of the show.
00:32:54:09 - 00:33:12:24
Yeah. Everyone else's. Turn it off. I still need to give a, shout out to, a good friend of our podcast, and Patreon member, Jolene Gardner. But. But if I weren't you, Angela, the whole time.
00:33:12:27 - 00:33:19:00
You don't need, say, name.
00:33:19:02 - 00:33:45:00
That's, That's a good point. Yeah. Well, thank you, Carly, and thank you to him for joining us right now. And you can do it that long. And it's 16. Yeah, I'm not going to say it anymore. Carly. Jillian, thank you for being Patreon members. Thank you. Thank you for joining us on almost every How I Met Your Monster.
00:33:45:00 - 00:34:17:21
Watch along. We appreciate you. And, yes, thank you again. So, Arnold, who would you like to thank? I would like to thank, two insects for the price of one. Amanda. Six. Thank you. Arrived. And Stephanie wind sick. Welcome to the Patreon. Thank you. When you somehow you somewhere Christopher Walken. We know shortly. Who am I?
00:34:17:21 - 00:34:48:03
But you know the Christopher Walken. Arnold Schwarzenegger impressions. Yeah. So, lady from the northeast. I'm from Boston, but Boston, who is a who from Long Island? What shout outs do you have? I like to thank my brother, Cody Brewer. Cody Brewer, and,
00:34:48:05 - 00:34:55:09
And, biggest fan, biggest fan.
00:34:55:11 - 00:35:01:04
I've ever seen daddy cover his face from laughing. So.
00:35:01:06 - 00:35:31:20
Zane de chalet. Thank you. Oh, same. It Cody. You guys have been huge supporters since day one, and, we really appreciate you. So. Oh, gosh, that was a lot of fun. You guys, let's thank all of our special guests. Angela. Thank you. You're welcome. Arnold. Thank you. You're welcome. Boss in stranger lady. You're welcome. And I won't be back because the ridicule that I get for my accent.
00:35:31:26 - 00:35:47:04
I'm never coming back. You know, you sound like you're from. But I understand where you're coming from. I'm never. I'm leaving, and I'm never coming back. Okay?
00:35:47:06 - 00:36:07:04
Yes. Thank you. Thank you all for, for supporting. So, yeah, we really appreciate you guys. Okay. So are you guys ready to head to Los Angeles in the year 2029? I'm not gonna lie, I'm a little worried about losing all of my clothes during this time travel process, because I know that's what that's what happens.
00:36:07:06 - 00:36:35:04
Yeah, they just, like only organic material off and make it through. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's not the case. There's just like, guy who runs the time, like, so let's take it up close to take it up, remove clothes, enter. Let's get naked and head, back to 1984 Los Angeles. Let's fucking go!
00:36:35:07 - 00:36:50:00
And look.
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How? Okay, so we have 12 official reveals for the Terminator and an official reveal. If you're new to the show, an official monster reveal is anytime the monster in the movie is revealed to the characters in the movie, or to us as an audience. So we have 12 official for this movie. But before we get started, Danny, since this was your pick for our High Octane Kills triple feature, would you please read the synopsis of The Terminator from IMDb?
00:37:21:23 - 00:37:50:01
Happily. Thank you. A cyborg assassin from the future attempts to find and kill a young woman who is destined to give birth to a warrior that will lead a resistance to save humankind from extinction. Nice. Pretty good. Not bad. We've had our, issues with IMDb synopsis in the past, but I have to say. Yeah, and sometimes I've been reading the Amazon synopsis as well, because it's sometimes a lot better.
00:37:50:03 - 00:38:12:12
I actually prefer IMDb is, to to Amazon. Amazon is a cyborg assassin from the future comes to present day LA boring. And what's nice about Amazon is that their like synopsis is always like straight into the point. Yeah, but I think this one is almost like too much. Too much. Exactly. Yeah. It's, IMDb is is, is good.
00:38:12:15 - 00:38:41:13
So we jump into our first official monster reveal, right in the opening. Right when the movie opens, we're in LA 2029. We're in the future. There are broken buildings, skulls laying everywhere, which the skulls were actually like miniature little tiny skulls. Because this was all this was all miniatures. So the all the skulls on the ground were just like half an inch bigger, an inch big.
00:38:41:13 - 00:39:03:08
And then what? So that's pretty cool. But, yeah, our first reveal is the hunter killer drones flying over the thing, and then like, the the tanks too, that are just, like, rolling over and crushing the skulls. And, you know, I was thinking like, we've seen this image so many times from like, I mean, even growing up watching Terminator two, like, you see this image the same.
00:39:03:08 - 00:39:24:29
So it's like it's lost its impact a little bit, but like if you really think about it, the ground is just covered in human skulls. Yeah. And the machines are just driving over them. It's so dark. The world has essentially. I mean, for all intents and purposes, it's ended. You know, like there really are just a few humans in existence.
00:39:24:29 - 00:39:47:18
And obviously the movie kind of digs in a little deeper as far as like what is happening in this future. Like there's obviously a resistance, but yeah, that's a good point. You kind of forget that Armageddon has basically happened. And in any Armageddon situation, maybe there are a few, like, leftover humans. Yeah, that's really all we're left with.
00:39:47:18 - 00:40:13:24
It's really grim, which I don't know the when. The best time to bring this up is because the whole movie is kind of, time travel conundrum, but, like, you know, and they get into this later in the sequels, but there's no saving it. Like, it's just. Yeah, this movie's just about stopping the end of the world. It's about making sure the guy who helps us get through the end of the world doesn't die otherwise.
00:40:13:24 - 00:40:38:04
Yet what was bleak will just be bleaker. Yeah, because it's not like they can save the day and stop everybody. Because then if they stopped the machines, then, you know, this is, I guess maybe this is more for like part two. Well, I get to is I think about stopping Armageddon. This is just about eating Armageddon. Like. Yeah.
00:40:38:06 - 00:41:01:25
Like if they stopped the resistance. That has to deal with Armageddon in part two. If they stop, if they were successful in stopping Judgment Day, right, then Kyle Reese wouldn't exist. Yeah. And therefore John Connor wouldn't exist, and therefore none of it would exist. And so. And therein lies the paradox. You know well that, you know, they kind of get to that.
00:41:01:25 - 00:41:24:00
And weird. We're just starting to talk about Terminator one, and I'm already jumping to Terminator three. So I you have to hope. Three. Oh yeah. Three. Oh. But like at the end, if you remember Terminator three with Nick Stahl, and then they start going off and everything, and he was just like, he like, basically says like it's fate or whatever.
00:41:24:02 - 00:42:02:11
Dark fate, dark. There's just like, no stopping it. Like it's just because time has already happened. Oh, my God, it's so fucking crazy. But yeah, like the end is inevitable, but the end is also the beginning. So you almost it's like, pick your battle. Like, what do you want to stop if you stop, if you try to end the thing that is like the cataclysm, you're sort of shooting yourself in the foot because you're then creating a paradox in which the information you would need to even know to stop this Armageddon wouldn't exist, didn't exist in the first place.
00:42:02:11 - 00:42:26:15
So you have to like it's very, like disturbing in a way, because you have to decide, like, I know billions of people will die. It's inevitable. But you have to realize like that is out of your hands. It's how to deal with the repercussions of that. Yeah, yeah. Damn. Jesus. So, yeah. James King machines driving over skulls. Oh, my God, I can't even comprehend all that right now.
00:42:26:17 - 00:42:50:09
No KC jacket again, and you'll be right. He's just dead. Jax. Dude. Yeah. Never. I get so much today. You're going blind. Thank you so much today. Are you marathon jacking it? I haven't, it's one of those days. And all day. Yeah.
00:42:50:12 - 00:43:17:27
So, then very quickly, we jump to Los Angeles in 1984. And a Terminator. I would be remiss to not to like. Oh, you're so not remiss. How fucking perfect the music in those credits and the opening of this movie that you're gonna say is dope. It is beyond iconic. It's so perfect. I just wanted to say that it's I'm stating an obvious point.
00:43:18:00 - 00:43:46:13
We can move on. I just wanted to get that out there. It needed to be official. Yeah, it's almost just like. It's like when you hear a score that iconic, it's like, how did it even happen? You know what I mean? Like, how do you even it's just do that. Because the beautiful thing about the score in this movie is it does such a great job at kind of encompassing the the dread and the like, the action element.
00:43:46:15 - 00:44:12:00
But then there's this like kind of like pathos to it, like this sort of like emotion that feels. That's how you know, you're in a different type of movie. Like, this isn't just a shoot em up. This isn't just like a sci fi end of the world robot movie. There's like a thoughtfulness. Oh yeah, even go so far as like, this, like, emotional musical throughline.
00:44:12:02 - 00:44:39:28
And I obviously like the franchise speaks for itself so clearly. It resonated with people in the, police station scene where Kyle and Sarah are kind of like, they like, linked back up and they're starting to, like, escape. The composer had put in, like, that heroic theme song of Terminator that we know and love. Like he put that in that scene and James Cameron was like, no, we can't have that here.
00:44:40:00 - 00:44:57:05
Because like, yes, they are coming together and escaping and doing all this stuff. But like, it'll take the audience out of this like they're being hunted. They're being chased like you have to be in that mindset. I don't want the audience to be out of that. It's amazing. So he was like. He was like, take that out of that part.
00:44:57:08 - 00:45:20:01
He knows what he's doing. Which again, goes back to your James Cameron thing of him being like having like a full vision. Like he just like knows. But okay, so yeah, we are in 1984 Los Angeles. We get the lightning. Our second official reveal is Arnold Schwarzenegger, the Terminator in his birthday suit. Dick swinging our first monster intro with, ass.
00:45:20:03 - 00:45:52:21
Yeah. Ooh. And on ascending. Yeah. Cases thinking. Have we seen Acid Dunk before in a monster intro? I mean, technically, Pumpkinhead was is naked. That's true, that's true. Yeah, I guess I'm. I was gonna say this is more human truth, but now the human is is like annoyed. Yeah. Listeners, if you have been listening to us since the beginning and you remember something that we are overlooking, please let us know if there have been more, button dongs that we missed out on the initial monster introductions.
00:45:52:24 - 00:46:09:08
Maybe it's just because we talk about Dong so much. Dude, it's like a lot of dong dong. I mean, we literally been talking about jacking it for about, like, 30 minutes. Oh, Danny, we're talking about doing jumping jacks. Get your mind out of the gutter. That's what I mean, isn't it, Dong? What you do when you're not stomping around?
00:46:09:13 - 00:46:33:24
Like doing a jumping jack. Danny, where we've been saying Jack and have this whole time. Have you thought we were talking about masturbating? You were not even, like, a little bit. You wanted grow up. Let's, Crazy. All right. I'm going to go check it. I'll be right back. Okay.
00:46:33:27 - 00:46:54:00
Yeah. Danny, you pointed out, Arnold's swinging dick, and this one. I had to go back and watch it again to find it. You know, the only thing that I noticed about this scene was fucking Bill Paxton. Yes. Yeah. Bill Paxton as the punk, but which is technically our next reveal, which is a consecutive it's kind of like one.
00:46:54:00 - 00:47:19:00
Oh yeah. Good point. But yeah that's our that's our third official reveal when the Terminator he goes to find the clothes. And I knew it was Bill Paxton because of his voice. Oh yeah. Yeah. It wasn't the, it wasn't the the tire tracks on his face that gave it away. I was like, what is that? He had like, he's like, I don't know if it was a tattoo or what, but it was like a tire ran over his face came over.
00:47:19:00 - 00:47:41:23
Man. It's like treads. Like tire treads. But yeah, fucking the Terminator. Just fucking rips that guy's heart out. Yeah. And, you know, we had talked about this being like, is it a horror movie? Is it whatever. And like that was one of the first moments where I was like, I mean, right at the beginning of the movie, I was like, Holy shit, he just fucking punched through that guy.
00:47:41:23 - 00:48:06:25
It's just it's the execution of these interactions because, like, we've seen movies like, I mean, even in T2, like robots, like Kill People, but it doesn't feel necessarily like horrific in terms of, like, horror movie standards. I guess. But the way that they shoot this one and with the practical effects and the gore that they emphasize, it's like, oh, no, like this is 100% a monster.
00:48:06:25 - 00:48:29:18
He's not just like some, like, badass villain. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. So this. Yeah. So this is our third official monster reveal when the punks meet the T-800, which we should point out is the official name of the Terminator. Oh, if you want to know a little bit about the T-800, I'll tell you. It's Cyberdyne Systems, model 101.
00:48:29:20 - 00:48:58:05
Oh, fuck. Yeah, bro. Yeah. He's an infiltration unit. He's part man, part machine. Underneath its hyper alloy combat chassis is, it's microprocessor controlled. It's fully armored. He's very tough. But outside, it's living human tissue, like, flesh, skin, hair, blood grown for the cyborgs. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, remorse or fear.
00:48:58:07 - 00:49:17:27
That's all I got. You have painted such a distinct, clear picture of this as if it was. I feel like I never in the movie I have to watch this movie again. I will just refer back to this episode so thank you. Well, how do you how do you say his name? Michael. Bean. Bean, bean bean. Michael bean.
00:49:18:00 - 00:49:43:22
Yo yo yo, Mike. He was talking, and he was saying that, like, all the exposition in the movie comes from his character. Like, he tells everything about what's going on. And what happened and everything. Sometimes there is not even listening. He's just spilling the beans. So, you know, everything I just said about the, the Terminator comes from his scene in the car where he's telling her all about the Terminator.
00:49:43:24 - 00:50:07:29
And, you know, he had said in that interview that, like, normally in a movie like, that's like a deal breaker, you get into someone just talking about exposition and it's so boring, and that's where you lose people. But the way James Cameron shoots this movie is that any time he's giving exposition is in the middle of, like, a car chase, or they're being shot at or they're hiding from the police or something.
00:50:07:29 - 00:50:29:20
And so, like, it doesn't feel stale, like it just. Yeah. And also there's like something going on where he it's the conviction because like you literally we understand Sarah isn't going to buy this because we are on you know we're in her timeline. So like we wouldn't buy it. So like we get it. He's basically pitching the future to her.
00:50:29:22 - 00:50:51:16
And yeah, that's such a great I never thought of it like that. Yeah. Like it's exposition that is not only necessary but also it it helps that we saw the T-800 perform all of this like really gruesome shit. And then it's because if you think about it at this point, unless you've been like just watching the trailers and everything, you're like, what the fuck is going on?
00:50:51:16 - 00:51:13:27
Like, who is this guy? Yeah, you don't know he's a robot. Yeah, like there's a lot to digest. Like there's only so much time we have, like, I have to just tell you this. Otherwise you're gonna be very lost, right? Yeah. Also, I, I know, Casey, you had mentioned Bill Paxton. I, think this is a great time to just kind of pouring out for the late Bill Paxton.
00:51:13:29 - 00:51:38:05
Who was a kind of a James Cameron staple, starting with this movie. He also played Hudson in aliens. He was Simon in True Lies. And he also even played Brock Lovett in Titanic. Oh. Yeah. Obviously, outside of James Cameron movies, he was also fantastic. He was a great filmmaker, a great actor, and he, is dearly missed.
00:51:38:05 - 00:52:04:05
So. Well, to Bill Paxton, to Bill Paxton, I have a question. As to Bill brand new sci. I have a question that has nothing to do with. But that's fine. When time traveling, you say that, what happens to our clothes? They zap, zap, zap. Why? Because they think only organic material can pass through time.
00:52:04:09 - 00:52:32:24
Then why does his skeleton remain? Oh, that's a great point. It's. So they send them back and it's like, oh, shit. He just, like, flops on the ground. It's just like skin. So it's like, you hear all that lightning, and then it's like the smoke goes away and then it's just like you hear all the. It's like steaming.
00:52:32:26 - 00:53:00:05
It's like steaming pile of skin and mush anyway, so I don't have an answer. I have no idea. My only guess is, Kyle Reese kind of points out later that he sort of hijacked this technology, which I think was from Cyberdyne. Correct. If, I think so, if I'm wrong. So I'm assuming that whatever technology they created, would have taken into account the, whatever materials were used for these.
00:53:00:05 - 00:53:18:02
Yeah. They just wanted to make sure that we could see Arnold's dong. Yeah, well, it's funny, they want. I feel like that would have been a creative excuse to get them into, like, 80s garb. But, yeah, when they flash forward to the future, they're all kind of wearing the same thing. Yeah, yeah. Cyberdyne is like, send them back and make them intimidating.
00:53:18:06 - 00:53:39:16
How do you want me to do that, sarge? Give them a big penis. Oh, we we belong with a big dick. That's interesting too, that he would even need that. Oh, yeah? Well, they said, like they said that he's not because he. Because Kyle Reese at one point says like the 600 series had rubber skin. He's like, we could spot them easier.
00:53:39:17 - 00:54:08:18
But these ones are actually like full on blood, tissue, hair, like everything is like organically grown big dicks. Everything grew that dick in a lab. Yeah. So in the event that he's naked, there's not, like, wait a minute, why is he got a Ken doll body like this? Yeah, it's the dead giveaway. Okay, so, yeah, Kyle Reese doesn't travel as well as the, Terminator for many reasons.
00:54:08:21 - 00:54:28:01
He's not metal inside. And, he wasn't supposed to go back anyways. Like you said, Danny, they kind of, like, hijacked this time travel thing. And then once Kyle went through it, they, like, destroyed it. So which was a really cool moment in the movie, I was I almost got, like, chills when he was like, there's no way back.
00:54:28:01 - 00:54:51:29
It's just me and him. And that's it. Like we're deciding the rest of that, you know, we're deciding the outcome of this, and there's just the two of us. And I was like, oh man, that's fucking creepy. But. And then in our fourth official reveal, the Terminator goes to the gun store and, there's a little Dick Miller cameo.
00:54:52:01 - 00:55:14:04
Where from big Dick to little Dick? It's a little Dick Miller, little Dick Miller, and, he he's always a good character, you know? He always has, like his. We've done a couple, Dick Miller movies. We've done. He was in. We did Gremlins. Gremlins. We did a watch along of, shopping mall. Watch along of shopping mall.
00:55:14:04 - 00:55:31:21
Yes. Thank you. And, yeah. That's there's any others, but I love, there's something about him. He's such a, he's one of those character actors that is so, synonymous with the 80s. Yeah. He's just like, kind of a warm blanket. Sure. Yeah. Know what it is? I just really like him. But when he.
00:55:31:21 - 00:55:50:07
Yeah, he tells the, the Terminator, he's like, the handguns have a waiting period, but all their rifles, you can just take, it's like, oh, my God, it's great. Yeah. I mean, yeah. And I want to say like, oh my God, the 80s. But it's like still like that. It's getting worse. It's it's the same or worse. Yeah.
00:55:50:10 - 00:56:07:06
Oh my God. You can go to Walmart, buy a rifle. You have to. 80s was the Wild West. Nowadays is like the post Terminator Armageddon where now it's just lit. Yeah that. Yeah. Well if you go so Casey, if you go to Walmart and buy a rifle, like, do you have to wait or can you just take it on that day?
00:56:07:06 - 00:56:31:22
I don't think so. Oh my God, it's crazy. I live in Oklahoma and they have. You don't even need a, permit to carry to open carry a gun. What? You don't even need a permit. What? Really? It's fucking disgusting. But, Yeah. Even though Dick Miller is a, gun salesman in this, I still like him.
00:56:31:24 - 00:56:46:27
Oh, yeah. You know, he's just trying to. Oh, maybe he inherited it from his dad, and he's like, how do I get out of this? Like, well, maybe I'll make the best I can. Yeah. He's like, I really don't want to do this. But since I'm here, I might as well sell semi-automatic weapons to strangers. To to Rob.
00:56:47:00 - 00:57:13:29
But, yeah, the he gets terminated. You know, whether that means he gets fired or he gets killed, I don't know, but, but he gets killed. Appreciate. It's. He does. Okay, moving on to our, fourth reveal. No. I'm sorry. Moving on to our fifth reveal. Yeah. The Terminator now kills one of kill Sarah Connor.
00:57:14:02 - 00:57:37:04
Oh my God, guys, this. What the fuck? He did it. You know what's funny about this is that both him and Kyle Reese look in the phone book for Sarah Connor, and they see the three Sarah Connor, and then they rip the page out. Right? I have ever since watching back to the future, I've always wanted to find somebody in a phone book and then rip out the page and take you with me.
00:57:37:07 - 00:57:57:27
With your luck, though, like there'd be a cop right there. Like, hey, what did you just do? Like, damn it, that's public property. You can't do that. Yeah, I want I like ripping pages from phone books because the paper is really. And it's so delicate. Oh, yeah. Oh, what do they call it? Dainty paper. Dainty paper. Dainty paper.
00:57:57:27 - 00:58:28:02
Is it? Wait. For real? No. Oh. I'd like this printed on your, 3 pound dainty paper. I would like the details of dainty paper. Yeah. Yeah, but. Okay, so there's three Sarah Connor's in the Los Angeles area, and, he just goes down the list. And fortunately for our heroine, she is the third listed. Unfortunately for the the two children that this Sarah kind of leaves behind.
00:58:28:02 - 00:58:45:09
Yeah. Oh, my God, really? Just a pretty dark, you know, one thing I love, though, about this Terminator is that he knocks on the door. He does. Taco. It's so polite. He's very polite. I was like, oh, damn. He didn't just, like, kick it in. What if he did it? And then he was like, wait a minute, damn it, I shouldn't have knocked.
00:58:45:09 - 00:59:11:10
No, I like soft. Oh. I was like, never mind. He just walked away. And then just in case you were getting comfortable with 1984, we fucking jump forward. Back to the future again. Back to the future. Yeah, it's this. This is where Kyle is, like, sitting in his car and he's looking at the construction site, and he kind of has like flashbacks or flashbacks, but flash forwards or.
00:59:11:12 - 00:59:48:06
Yeah, time in a flashback for him personally to, to flash forward for the editors. Yeah. And this is basically realized like Kyle's like a hero. Is this where he sees it? Was this where he has the picture? Or not? Not yet. No, no. Okay. Later with the okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. No, we just see him. He's there's some hunter killer tanks, some HK tanks, and we kind of realize like, oh, Kyle's 100% a good guy, and he's a badass and he's fearless.
00:59:48:12 - 01:00:07:08
So of course, he's the guy who went back in time to do all this. Sure. Yeah, yeah, I guess it because it because until then, we don't really know who he is. I mean, I guess just, like, just from the whole story, like, I already knew that he was the good guy, but I guess if you were seeing this for the first time, you don't really know who he is until the end.
01:00:07:10 - 01:00:35:18
Okay. All right. Do we want to jump on to our sixth reveal? Yeah. Matt and Ginger get terminated. Let's do it. Okay, so at this point, we have we've been introduced to the Sarah Connor that the Terminator is after at this point in the story, as the audience, we don't know why this is happening, but we clearly kind of surmise that Linda Hamilton's character is the central, the focal.
01:00:35:21 - 01:00:57:23
Sarah Connor. And she's just kind of like a regular Joe kind of, you know, she works at a diner. She's kind of, you know, a hapless lover sort of character, and that's pretty much it. She is getting suspicious, though, that she is happening, and there is like a moment even she starts to suspect that, Kyle may be stalking her.
01:00:57:26 - 01:01:22:07
Yeah. And so that is so, so our sixth and seventh reveals kind of blend into each other because while she is feels like she's being stalked by Kyle because she knows that like, someone is killing the Sarah, the other two, Sarah, Sarah. And so yeah, now she's like, oh gosh, I'm probably next. And she feels like Sarah and she feels like Kyle is following her.
01:01:22:09 - 01:01:55:05
Then we cut back. They're killing her, and then they're going to kill me. Oh no. Oh my God, we will troll two. Action! And so while that's happening, we also jump back to her apartment with her roommate Ginger and her boyfriend, Matt. And, you know, I really take for granted the fact that we can just listen to music, like, anywhere we want now, because Ginger had to carry around that Walkman everywhere she went.
01:01:55:07 - 01:02:17:16
So got, you know, many problems with this. These people count your blessings. See, I have the opposite of problems. I've connected with these people. Ginger, do you make giant, weird ass fucking sandwiches? Danny? Yes. Yeah, like Ginger is me. Do you call your partner on the phone and know when their roommate answers? Do you just immediately start talking fucking sex?
01:02:17:16 - 01:02:43:09
Talk to them without asking who they are? Well, that's Matt. Matt is problematic. Ginger is not. First of all, you're questioning Danny if he makes big old sandwiches. No. Danny has said before and say big old sandwich is such a big fucking weird sandwich. Big fucking weird sandwiches. Oh, Danny has been quoted earlier in our podcast as saying, you know, I wanted to make a really simple sandwich.
01:02:43:09 - 01:03:07:11
So I cooked up some chicken cutlets, got some mozzarella and some fresh tomato. And so that's not a weird marriage. That's a delicious sandwich. I thought, you know, but it's not a simple sandwich. No, but I thought you were going to say the one episode really kept burping. It is. You just say no to.
01:03:07:14 - 01:03:29:12
Danny loves the same. No, I, Matt, in this movie, the character Matt is, problematic. And it's in his own right. Yeah. We're going to come back to him later for your, real monster. Ginger. However, I was 100% correct. Ginger is me. Okay, that's you guys. If you ever wondered what it's like for Danny to have sex, that's me after sex.
01:03:29:12 - 01:03:52:11
I'm very hungry. I'm also hungry during sex. I'm just constantly wanting food. He puts on his Walkman. He likes my Walkman. And I'm just all I'm thinking about. You just think about sandwiches the whole time you're getting laid. Can I make a sandwich? Yeah. We hurry this up. I need a sandwich. Oh, God. Sex is just like it's foreplay for dinner.
01:03:52:11 - 01:04:21:05
More food as far. Yes, it's dinner. Foreplay. Oh, my God, that's great. Yeah. So while after Matt and Ginger get it on, they get terminated by the Terminator. He thinks it's Sarah Connor until he like, sees her picture and he hears her on the voicemail, whatever. On the answering machine. And that intersects with our seventh reveal, where Sarah goes into Tech Noir club.
01:04:21:08 - 01:04:47:08
And it's like a dance club. And that's where she's, like, hiding out, calling the police. And, she calls Ginger and says, hey, this is where I'm at. Come pick me up. Here's the exact address. It's do it. And, and just FYI, this is Sarah Connor, third, Sarah Connor listed in the phone book, and, the Terminator, it's like, oh, okay, here we go.
01:04:47:11 - 01:05:05:07
But this was a cool scene because, there's a lot going on. The Terminator shows up, Sarah, like, breaks a bottle and goes to pick it up just as he's coming around and looks at her. And that was really cool. Kyle's at the bar, and then they get this whole big, you know, I have a name for Kyle.
01:05:05:07 - 01:05:28:03
It's what we it's last second. Reese. He's always like at the last second. Help saving here. Like it's always like, oh, you're only here for one thing. Just be right next to her. Or like, yeah, why are you playing it, like, so cool? Coy. You don't have to at all. There's no ruse you have to put on. Just protect her.
01:05:28:06 - 01:05:51:03
Yeah. Yeah. And the Terminator pulls out like his big, like fucking, no big. Did it. Yeah, I saw, yeah, I saw you. Where you going? I saw your eyes get big. No. His big, lasers, sighted pistol and, like, lights up right on Sarah Connor's forehead. He's got a laser sighted wiener. Laser sighting. Might take.
01:05:51:05 - 01:06:08:25
You would think, like, if he was going to be a machine, they would just, like, utilize all the make his wiener a gun. Yeah. Maybe his. Yeah, maybe his dick is a gun. Damn. But this was a cool scene. There are so many, like. So, Casey, like you said, I'm just like you. We grew up watching part two, and, had not really seen part one.
01:06:09:02 - 01:06:30:24
There are so many little elements that come back into part two that I didn't realize were actually from part one. So in this scene, when Kyle finally meets Sarah after he shoots the Terminator, he says, come with me if you want to live. And I always thought that was like a Terminator thing from past. Yeah, I was confused because I was like, wait, is that not in the second movie?
01:06:30:27 - 01:06:49:15
That's funny. No, it is, but it's like The Terminator says it. The, another thing is like the voice manipulation, how he can. Oh, yeah, alter his voice to sound like anybody. Oh, yeah. And even in this scene where he gets, like, shot, where Kyle shoots him and he flies through the glass window and lands on the street.
01:06:49:17 - 01:07:11:26
That kind of happens in part two in the mall. He flies out the window and and plays on the oh, that's fun in the fucking hallway of the mall. And then Doctor Silberman, I didn't realize that he was a returning person from the from the first movie. Sucks. He sucks so, so hard. Yeah, he's the worst.
01:07:11:29 - 01:07:34:17
You suck. But anyways, yeah. So this techno scene, like, sets off the whole big chase scene between the Terminator and Kyle and Sarah and also doubles as kind of a meet. Cute. Yeah. You don't realize until later. You're right. You're right. It does. Oh, yeah. Because you find out that Kyle is like in love with her. That's kind of creepy.
01:07:34:17 - 01:07:54:05
So this is like a weird back door roundabout way long way round way to fall in love with someone. Yeah. Yeah. Guys is Terminator a rom com? It's the way you waited so long because he was like, if I, like, show up late, but, like, act like, you know, if I'm, like, heroic and safer, she's going to fall for me, dude.
01:07:54:05 - 01:08:13:27
She's going to fucking love it. Way more memorable than if I'm just sitting next to her. Like holding my hand in front of her face. He's like talking to John Connor in the future, and he's like, so when I meet your mom, I think I'm gonna let I think I'm going to play it cool. I'm going to play it cool.
01:08:14:00 - 01:08:31:19
I'll be there, but I'll be, like kind of distant. So I won't, like, make it a thing, but, like, she'll kind of she's going to think I'm like the mysterious guy. That's not weird, right? It's mysterious. I'll just, like, hide my gun under my trenchcoat. It'll be cool. That's cool. Right? Like that's cool when you're clearly hiding your gun in your trenchcoat.
01:08:31:22 - 01:08:59:06
Oh, you know, at least one thing that I thought was really cool was during this chase scene when the Terminator, like, jumps on the car and he punches through the window. That was like I mean, clearly like Arnold didn't punch through a window. So they had this whole like set up and I don't know how like the camera was rigged or whatever, but according to James Cameron the rig was so heavy that they couldn't move the car with like Arnold on it and all this big dick is so heavy.
01:08:59:06 - 01:09:19:27
Whoa. So in order to look like the car was reversing, they had a makeshift brick wall behind, like in the background, and instead of moving the car, they moved the brick wall. And so it looked like the car was driving backwards. That's fun. Which I thought was a fun. And it's only on screen for like a second, like it's really quick.
01:09:19:29 - 01:09:45:29
But I thought that was me. I was like, that's a cool little car. I love movies, fun. Yeah. Me too. So good. So yeah, after, like in the middle of this chase, we get another reveal, our eighth official reveal where, the Terminator has just been lit on fire in certain parts of his body. His hair's burned back, his eyebrows are gone, and he meets a patrol officer who, like, shows up to the scene and how he gets killed.
01:09:46:00 - 01:10:04:21
The Terminator doesn't know Terminator. It's just like the car throws him out of the way and takes the corner. So we see Arnold. The Terminator is now, we're starting to see some layers being peeled back. Literally. He's no longer this handsome stud muffin hoodie, and he fell in love with the start of this movie. He now has a mullet.
01:10:04:24 - 01:10:21:29
Yeah. Yeah. Like later. Like like at this point in, like, his hair is like shorter on top and whatever. And I kind of just like, think of that as the Terminator. And I didn't, like, put the pieces together that at the beginning his hair is like, flowy, like, kind of long, and that it was beautiful. Yeah.
01:10:22:01 - 01:10:41:18
And you just want to. You just want to run your hand, right? Yeah. To meet your parents. You just love them. I love, you know, end of Days episode when I asked you if, if Arnold was possessed by the devil and he wanted to bang you, if you would put up a fight.
01:10:41:21 - 01:10:48:11
You were like, oh, no, don't.
01:10:48:13 - 01:11:17:18
Oh, God. Anyways, we're very pro Arnold on this podcast. Yes, we love Arnold. And I lead that church happily. Okay. And then, pretty much all of everything that happens up until our next monster reveal is just a lot of, you had mentioned earlier about Kyle Reese's exposition to Sarah explains everything. Yeah. And they. Yeah.
01:11:17:18 - 01:11:38:06
Because in the so he meets the officer, he he takes the car. There's like a fun like I say fun. I almost made it laugh like a back and forth with shotgun shooting between Kyle Reese and the Terminator. Like that was the one moment I was like, this is silly. Just like the editing was like back and forth, back and forth, back and forth.
01:11:38:10 - 01:12:00:26
Also, one thing that I forgot about in this movie was the, speed ramping that they do during some of the car chases. Yes. And I was like, guys to like, make it look fast or it's never necessary. Yeah. It reminds you of when I did my big, James Bond, marathon. The speed ramping they do in that movie is like, sometimes, like doing fight scenes.
01:12:00:26 - 01:12:24:09
I'm like, stop it. Like, I can't even imagine people in, like, the 60s and 70s were like, wow. They're like really fucking fast. They're really fast. Like, look at that. So funny. Yeah. So there's a big chase, and then the, Terminator crashes. The police get Kyle and Sarah, and they take him to the jail, and they're interrogate ING Kyle.
01:12:24:09 - 01:12:50:25
And this is where we kind of meet Doctor Silberman, and he's just like a fucking douchebag. Yeah. I don't know, so I can't, like, he is a douchebag. But you also, like, try to put yourself in their position. Like, if you didn't know that, like, you know, mean we know like, Terminator movies exist. You know, my thing with him is, is just like, from his job, like the perspective of, like, his job is he's the way you,
01:12:50:28 - 01:13:16:12
Yeah. Yeah. Like, he's not being considerate at all. Exactly. Like maybe Reese is, you know, having some, you know, mental health issues. Well, because he's not there's, like, zero sensitivity to it. Exactly. He's not listening to Reese and then, like, joking around behind his back. He's like mocking him to his face. Yeah, you know what I mean? It's like, dude, you're just like, he's just like, fucking with him.
01:13:16:15 - 01:13:41:09
And it's just a very exploitative doctor and not very helpful. Right? Right. We kind of have an honorable mention when we see the Terminator, his robotic skeleton, when he is tending to a wound. Oh, good. A little. We jumped over that hole. No, no, no it's fine. Yeah, we do see a little bit of the robot bones. His little body, his tendons are not organic.
01:13:41:09 - 01:14:06:12
They are artificial. And I just wanted to point out the fact that, I thought was really interesting that, in this universe, the longer a Terminator is in the 80s, the more 80s his hair gets. His hair, just like his hair has more character development than he does. It just like, is totally like fuzing with the times.
01:14:06:12 - 01:14:30:06
And I just, really appreciated that. Yeah, that, when they, like, kind of get close on his eye, that's like the iris is like, getting bigger and smaller or whatever. That close up was actually, like, sculpted. It was like a big sculpture, like of his eye. It is. And so they and it is like nice close up and obviously fake.
01:14:30:09 - 01:14:53:22
Oh when you see like, yeah, yeah. But it is still at the same time very impressive. So especially for like and when you know, like when it was made what went into it. The black of a really like full like stacked budget. It's very. Yeah. The only thing that really stood out to me was like the coloring wasn't right.
01:14:53:24 - 01:15:12:05
Unlike his skin, you know, I mean, you know, what it reminds me of is in spoiler alert for Poltergeist, but in the poultry AI scene, when the guy's looking in the mirror right before he starts peeling his face apart. Yeah, it like cuts to obviously it has to be a model because he's ripping his face off. Yeah, but it's that it's not quite.
01:15:12:06 - 01:15:35:24
It's not like it looks bad. It's just like, I think that's like the fun of like, 80s practical effects is when you. Oh shit, is it? But it's not to like the detriment of the movie. It's kind of adds to it. Oh yeah, I love that stuff. Like over CGI 100%. 2%. Yeah. Yeah. No. Good call bringing that back to the, that scene, because he does like all that surgery on himself.
01:15:35:24 - 01:15:57:02
And you see that, like he can't feel pain, but like, his skin is like, bleeding, and it's, like peels, like his, like, lens of his eye off. And I of it drops at the sink again. Another, reminder that this is, in fact, a horror movie. Yeah. Okay, so in our ninth reveal, this is like the police station.
01:15:57:04 - 01:16:15:06
This is where we get the classic line. I will be back. Because, see, like, he comes in looking for Sarah Connor, and the guy's like, she's being she's in the back there talking. It's going to be a while. And he, like, looks around. He like, kind of like assesses the the the layout of the fucking police station.
01:16:15:09 - 01:16:38:13
Police station like the, the lobby. Yeah. The lobby. Thank you. That's the word I'm looking for. And then he's like, I'll be back. And he just fucking drives the car right through. Wonderful. Yeah. That's cool. It's funny that, like, that line became so, like, come on. Yeah, I just nothing really. Significant about it, but he does.
01:16:38:14 - 01:17:07:14
Yeah. So much in the movie, I guess. So that's true. You don't have much to choose from. Yeah, yeah. Otherwise it's it's either that or Sarah Connor. So. And that's not as universal. No. Anyways, yeah. The, the police station, he just comes in and just fucking kills everybody. And you, I kind of wanted like, Lance Henriksen character and, the captain, I call him a captain.
01:17:07:14 - 01:17:29:13
I don't know if he's the captain, but he's the boss. I kind of wanted their death scenes to be like detective. Hell, you, Kovic, and Lieutenant Ed Trexler or what? Who's who? So he's a lieutenant. Lieutenant? Captain? Well, I wanted their death scenes to be, like, a little bit more to them, you know? Oh. Me too. My note is, Ed and how go too soon?
01:17:29:15 - 01:17:47:04
Yeah, they just kind of get shot like everybody else, and I think that's it. Like, I wanted, like, a little bit of something there at least. Like one of those things where it's like he's dead. But then you see him as the Terminators walking away. He like, pulls out another gun and he goes to lift it up and even if it's all for naught, he still has that like moment.
01:17:47:06 - 01:18:08:18
Yeah. Because I want them to like, know or like he lights a cigaret for his dead friend as they die. It's like, oh damn, I want them to like, know that they were telling the truth. Totally. You know what I mean? Like, I want, so. Oh, so you wanted more of a narrative weight to it? I'm just, like, giving these, like, cheap little, like, moments.
01:18:08:24 - 01:18:30:08
This little emotional beats that mean nothing. Yeah, I want them to know I wanted them to. Yeah. Anyways, yeah. So we're getting down to the, the end of our list here. We're at number ten, the Terminator infiltrates or a Terminator infiltrates the bunker. So we are at, Kyle Reese is telling Sarah, like, what? The future.
01:18:30:08 - 01:18:52:25
It's like, and he's telling her all about where he comes from and all this stuff, and he's talking about how he would go into these, like, bunkers and what, like, the world was like, how people were living, how they were sleeping. It just is a fucking mess. And, they use dogs to like, sniff out the Terminators and an infiltrator, a Terminator comes in and just shoots everybody, including the dogs.
01:18:52:27 - 01:19:12:00
And that's our 10th reveal. Is not the Terminator that we're used to in this movie, but a different Terminator. Yeah. Coming into the bunker. And so this is one of those classic, real men don't tell you they got shot scenes where he's been hiding a bullet, and the whole time it's like us, right? I also love. And Sarah is.
01:19:12:00 - 01:19:35:01
She's made me laugh because in this scene, she comes so close to when she's tending his wound to being like it. Like she's like, so visibly like. Yeah. Grossed out. Yeah. She makes a big leap from the first movie to the second. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, she says, like she's going to vomit or something. Like, you need to talk to me because I'm going to throw up.
01:19:35:03 - 01:20:00:12
But this is where he talks about the picture, right? Yes. Dude. I think one of my favorite things about this movie is that the end when you find out. So he's got this picture, right, that John Connor gave to him of his mom. And he studied this picture. He fell in love with Sarah through this picture. And like, he just had it and it was like, whatever.
01:20:00:12 - 01:20:22:16
And then it like burned up, right? That's what made him fall in love with her. At the end, when you find out that she is talking about Kyle Reese, when the picture gets taken is mind blowing. My mind was blown and I was like, that is the I just fucking love that. That's like my favorite detail about this whole movie.
01:20:22:18 - 01:20:41:20
So good. Oh my god. And that like, goes back to the beginning of our conversation about like how it all is just like it's all happened. Like you can't fix things or change things like it all. It's just like destiny, right? Well, like, yeah, it's kind of, you know, the butterfly effect is if you step on a butterfly, you change the future.
01:20:41:22 - 01:21:05:23
But in this case, it's like everything. What are the rules? Because everything is sort of like, preordained. But what is preordained? And does that mean we don't have a choice? But like if they if you do nothing, does that mean it'll all happen regardless? Yeah. I don't know. Time and paradoxes and all that like confuse me quite a bit.
01:21:05:25 - 01:21:29:12
Irritates a lot. Love time. I mean, one of my favorite shows is Doctor Who and that's just so. Okay, Casey, I hope you're awake enough for this. She is. I can tell my eyes are literally crossing. Just going to put my head down. No, that would create a paradox. Yeah. Don't paradox says because I've been in the future, Casey.
01:21:29:14 - 01:21:54:05
And in my timeline, you are awake through this episode. I make it to work. Yeah, you do make it to work. Yeah. You actually make it to work energized because, you know, you put out the greatest How We Met your Monster episode of all time. All right, all right, hurry up with your whatever. Literally. That's all the fanfare you need, Zach, hurry up for this to work.
01:21:54:08 - 01:22:31:17
Let's go. What the fuck was I going to say? Oh, okay. So when talking about this, I'm sure that Sarah Connor. Dude. Okay. Oh my God. Okay. Kyle Reese in the future, right. Talking to John Connor, if all of this stuff happened, and I mean, I guess, you know, they wouldn't know this because they hadn't made the second movie yet, but John Connor would have known that, like, all of this stuff happened with, like, the T-1000 in the in T2 and all this stuff.
01:22:31:19 - 01:22:55:09
He would have known that Sarah killed the Terminator in the past and crushed him, right? Because she would have told him that. He would have probably told Kyle that, but like, all that stuff would have been known. Do you think he told Kyle that he was going to die? So that's a good question, because Sarah says she doesn't want to know about the future.
01:22:55:09 - 01:23:17:21
She does want to know, like certain fates. So maybe this is a stretch, but the fact that, like, the mother is, that's her way of thinking. Maybe John is similar in that, like, we don't. I'm not going to pass this. Because that seems like a detriment to the mission. Sure. You know, to be like. But you do say that he's really for not.
01:23:17:21 - 01:23:36:19
But it is for you. So not that he was going to die, but like, you think she would have told him that, like, hey, yeah, we crushed this Terminator in a fucking hydraulic press. Oh, yeah, it could be. It could be something like, you have to be willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for the future to like for us to survive in the future.
01:23:36:24 - 01:24:06:18
You have to be willing to lose yourself. Yeah. Okay. Well, anyways, our 11th reveal is the Terminator trucker. He steals a truck, he chases Kyle and Sarah. Sarah, played by Linda Hamilton, who broke her ankle right before filming was supposed to sell. And so they pushed a lot of the scenes that way. Every time she runs, she just falls over.
01:24:06:20 - 01:24:30:21
Yeah, she's like, I could do it, guys. So that was just flops of. That's funny. I mean, I guess even in T2, there's like a truck scene where that explodes. I would like to. Can we take this moment, this particular reveal, to talk about something? Of course. Danny, we're going to step out of the story for a bit.
01:24:30:24 - 01:24:56:02
Zach, you mentioned that there is a significant truck scene in the sequel. Well, the thing is, is for anyone who is not aware of this fact, James Cameron, before he was a filmmaker, he was a truck driver. And before he even started his filmmaking career, he had wanted to be a filmmaker. He just, you know, sometimes you have to work that, those odd jobs to get by as you pursue your dreams.
01:24:56:02 - 01:25:20:06
And that's exactly what he was doing. So here's a fun, inspiring little side story specifically connected to this scene, which I'm guessing is why he, you know, put in this direct reference to a driver. So when he was younger, when he was a truck driver, he would go to the USC library. That's the University of Southern California, which is very renowned for its, filmmaking department.
01:25:20:08 - 01:25:41:16
And he would photocopy books on filmmaking, and then he would take those photos. I mean, like every single page, like hundreds of pages. He put those pages in binders and he would take them with him on the road while he was working as a truck driver, and he would study them day in, day out while he was driving.
01:25:41:19 - 01:26:08:07
And he essentially got like a full USC level minus, you know, the professors. And there is like which some might argue is unnecessary. Right. And he got a full filmmaking, USC level, education, which obviously is like was at risk and assembled. But it worked because he then went on and he made a short film called Xeno Genesis.
01:26:08:10 - 01:26:33:28
And then from there he made a feature film, which we had mentioned earlier prior to The Spawning. And then from there he was able to make The Terminator. Damn, isn't that crazy? Yeah, it's such a a, happy little success story in. Oh, yeah. You know, like a Hollywood, rags to riches kind of story. Yeah. I mean, it's literally an Oscar winning filmmaker.
01:26:33:28 - 01:26:57:22
It's crazy. Yeah. So he said that they were making. They were going to make Terminator. And then he was like, flat broke, right? His car was repossessed. Everything was like he had, like, no money. They were going to make Terminator. Arnold signed on. It was all good. And then Dino De Laurentiis was making the sequel to Conan the Barbarian or.
01:26:57:25 - 01:27:19:27
Yeah, Conan the Barbarian, the sequels, Conan the Destroyer. And he was like, you, like, we're taking Arnold for this. And so they pushed filming by a year. Oh, they were going to film in Toronto, and then they pushed a year and ended up having to film in LA. But during that year now he was like he would had like zero money, right?
01:27:20:00 - 01:27:38:22
He said he lived off McDonald's coupons that his mom would send him for, like where you could buy two Big Macs for the price of one, and he would buy two Big Macs. He would eat one, and then he would save one for the next day. You know, you you got like this, you're going to make the Terminator, right?
01:27:38:22 - 01:28:00:06
Which at the time no one knew it was going to be such a big hit. But I do want to know where, he got the money to go to Rome to have the fever dream that led to the Terminator, but. Well, I wonder if he was just watching the 70s and 80. I think he was filming Piranha two, when that happened, so it was probably part of that.
01:28:00:09 - 01:28:31:14
Interesting. Yeah. Okay, that makes sense. But, yeah. So. Okay, so our 11th reveal, the Terminator steals the truck. He's chasing Kyle and Sarah, and, they ultimately blow up the truck, and we think the Terminator is gone, but his skin has melted away, and now he is a skinless wiener. So he's, He's a robo dogs robo dong.
01:28:31:16 - 01:28:45:02
And that is exactly our 12th and final reveal. When Sarah and Kyle meet the skinless Terminator. The T-800 skinless is such a gross word.
01:28:45:04 - 01:29:11:20
It is gross. And what is it, robo dog, but a Terminator, am I right? Yeah. Guys. Crazy. And we get this, final showdown in this machinery plant, which is fitting for the movie, you know, because he's a machine. And. Yeah. What does that feel like to him as a future version of these robots in this industrial factory?
01:29:11:22 - 01:29:31:12
Yeah. Is it like a it's almost like he's like. It's like being in a building where you're, like, fighting, but like, there's a bunch of grandpas around. Yeah. It's like it's it's your grandfather's, but like, they're holding up the wall. It's like they are actually like part of the architecture.
01:29:31:15 - 01:30:01:07
So. Yeah. So they, have this. It's kind of like a cat and mouse thing where he's chasing them through the, through the factory. They blow him up. Kyle ultimately is killed in the explosion and he saves the day and that's it. He saves the day. It's not, it's not, that's not, that's not it. And this was one of like the early visions that James Cameron had for the Terminator of like a half.
01:30:01:09 - 01:30:24:28
Just like the top torso of the Terminator to a torch. Senator, you know, crawling after our final girl and, like, you know, there's a there's a painting that he did of a torso nator with, like a knife. Then he's, like, crawling with a with a knife. Kind of like Chucky. Right? But, Kyle's dead. Sarah is being chased.
01:30:25:01 - 01:30:48:26
You pointed out like this is where it's truly, like, a horror movie. I. Yeah, this is definitely the scariest part for me. Yeah. Yeah, I and like, you know, I mean obviously he was still the robot underneath there. But it is scary when you can see it all when you can see the robot. Yeah. And he's chasing her and she like draws him through this hydraulic press.
01:30:48:26 - 01:31:12:14
And then she finally hits the button and it crushes him. And so that arm that is left out right here, he stretches his arm out and it crushes. That's the arm in T2. Oh my god I fucking love it. I love it so much. And if you if you haven't seen T2, which it would be crazy. I'm not judging.
01:31:12:14 - 01:31:35:12
But like crazy if you haven't seen it, if you haven't. And this is your introduction to the Terminator franchise, finish this episode because $0 immediately go watch T2. It's fucking awesome and it is so satisfying to watch after watching The Terminator. Yeah. Oh man. There's so many things that I picked up on this that are in the second one.
01:31:35:12 - 01:31:55:19
And, and, you know, I had read a book by Syd Field who wrote the screenplay, on his like, on like what he says are like some of the four best screenplays of all time. And Terminator two was one of them. And it's pretty, the way he talks about it is like, you see so much and you're like, oh, man, yeah, this movie is so good.
01:31:55:22 - 01:32:21:18
Anyways, it's equal second only to scream two. Scream two is really, another little filmmaking thing that I thought was cool was that when they were filming this, and this is not a traditional way of filming, they set money aside for additional photography because they knew when they got into the edit that there was going to be things they wanted to shoot that they didn't think about at the time.
01:32:21:20 - 01:32:46:12
So they set money aside so they could do more photography. And that was kind of like unheard of. But one of the scenes that they shot that they wanted to get that final shot of the hydraulic press crushing the Terminator and like his eye goes out. Right. It's like a hazy shot. And there's a thing Stan Winston and them created that final shot.
01:32:46:15 - 01:33:07:19
They made the hydraulic press out of foam core and they painted it silver. The terminators pieces that are in there are made of tinfoil, and the eye is just like a little light bulb on a dimmer. And then so like when it crushes like they, it was like dimmed the light as his eye goes out and then the haze.
01:33:07:19 - 01:33:41:29
It's so much the haze that is in the scene there where it's kind of like just hazy and smoky. That was somebody offscreen blowing cigaret smoke into the frame. Isn't that so cool? And I love it so much. You know, he talked about like, this is Stan Winston. He talked about like how so many shots, special effects shots in this movie cost like tens of thousands of dollars to do these things and to find the final shot of the Terminator that you see was fucking foam core tinfoil and cigaret smoke.
01:33:42:01 - 01:34:02:21
But you'd never you would never know. It's it looks so seamless. And it's magic, ladies and gents, it's so good Hollywood magic you got and then, we get Sarah Connor going off. She's pregnant. With Kyle's baby. Or soon to be John Connor. She made me love so much this poor kid is trying to talk to her.
01:34:02:21 - 01:34:21:04
She's in his country, and he's talking to her and her husband. She's just like, what? What? What did you say? And then the guy comes over and talks her and she goes again. She's just like, what? Just like that? No, no, no. It's like stands out, like Sarah. Yeah. Try. Yeah. And he's like, the kid says, you're beautiful.
01:34:21:07 - 01:34:27:04
I mean, she had the fucking book there to order the gas.
01:34:27:07 - 01:34:45:21
God. But, Yeah. So that's it. That's Terminator. And then she gets the picture taken and it's a whole full circle thing. And I fucking love that. But yeah. Danny, thank you for picking the Terminator. This was so welcome. I loved this movie so much. We went out on a high. This was a really good triple feature.
01:34:45:23 - 01:35:12:14
This was. It really was. Casey, you, God bless you for choosing this high octane kills. What did we even start with? Go some Mars. Oh, go on Mars. We had the crimson wind. Then we had Abraham Lincoln with the fucking ax body spray. Vampires? Yeah. Slaughter and vampires. Yeah, we. And then get the fucking bolts off the door of 2025 with high octane kills.
01:35:12:14 - 01:35:46:13
This is the most unhinged we've been. We've been doing this for a few years now. This is episode 123. I want to say. Yeah. And we're going, we are consistently upping the ante. All right. Well, now it is time to, pick our favorite reveals in James Cameron's The Terminator. All on here. I don't believe anyone.
01:35:46:15 - 01:35:55:13
That's how they can do their on this goddamn foreign.
01:35:55:15 - 01:36:21:20
Okay, here's what we got. This is a speed round recap of our 12 official reveals in the Terminator. Number one hunter killer drones. Number two, the Terminator travels back in his birthday suit, with his swinging dick swinging happy robots. We know what day it is. No, Danny, lock it in right now. Dick. Terminator. Terminator Dick is your, your pick.
01:36:21:21 - 01:36:49:19
That's the sound of your sex. When he goes, he's like, I'm in. Number three. Terminator meets the punks. Number four, the Terminator. Terminator stick. Miller. Number five, the Terminator kills one of three. Sarah Connors, number six, Matt and Ginger terminated. Number seven, tech noir club number eight. The patrol officer meets burned. Terminator number nine. I'll be back at the police station.
01:36:49:22 - 01:37:17:28
Number ten a Terminator infiltrates the bunker. Number 11, we have the Terminator. Truckers. And finally, number 12, we have Sarah and Kyle. Meet the skinless Terminator hot dog boy. The glitzy, glitzy, but glitzy Big Lizzie. The skinless glizzy, God fucking. Oh, it's all we haven't had you guys on Hot Dog the boys. We haven't had a robot dog.
01:37:18:00 - 01:37:39:11
What's your robot dog? What's a robot? Robot hotdog. Yeah. What is a robot? How would we eat a robot hotdog? It's just a hotdog, man. A fucking like machine. Oh. Oh, so it's like we. Can you eat it? Oh, you know, it'll kill you. That's a guaranteed death. Okay. Okay. What is your favorite reveal in the Terminator?
01:37:39:11 - 01:38:09:10
Danny, this is your pig. Let's start with you. I mean, we know it's the Terminator stick, but so it it is. It is the introduction. I know it's the Terminator arriving in 1984. Okay. And the joking, funny response is because of butts and peen. But in reality, I was thinking about this and I was thinking how, like, sometimes, you know, a thing is so iconic that it becomes familiar and you kind of forget how significant it is.
01:38:09:12 - 01:38:32:03
And that's how I feel about this introduction. When we meet the T-800, the monster is vulnerable. The introduction is fairly subtle. When you think about it. You know, we obviously have so much more context now, but when we think about like when we meet it, it's just this sort of like naked and kind of huddled, hunched over. We also don't know if this character is good or bad.
01:38:32:03 - 01:39:13:27
There's a lot of, like, a lot of gray space, a lot of mystery. Right. But what we do realize is that this very simple but unique introduction is kind of the it turns out to be the calm before the storm. In this case, it's literally before he goes off and kills the punks. And I think for that, when you're given all the context, given the memorability and all of that and the simplicity and just that, like visual and then how important this is to the story, I couldn't even though there's so much in this movie as far as like introductions to the monster goes like that are so memorable and iconic.
01:39:13:29 - 01:39:43:21
I keep going back to this one. Yeah, that like visual of him hunched over naked, you know, like in this weird light with this fog, like it's so iconic. So for that reason, for those reasons, I'm going to go with, the T eight hundreds initial introduction to 1984. Yeah. That's good. That's a good pick. Yeah. It's funny to see like him arrive through time and then see Kyle arrive because like.
01:39:43:24 - 01:40:01:25
He knows what he's doing. He's a machine. Right. And Kyle is just like jumps in literally. Yep I love slams on the ground. And even though I'm like even when that's a thing too is like when you meet Kyle there's no reason for us to be like oh well, that's the hero. You're thinking like, well, shit. Like, how many of these guys are there?
01:40:02:02 - 01:40:29:10
Yeah. You know, like, yeah, it's a good point. It's just it's it's good storytelling. Casey, what do you got? What's your favorite reveal to the the last one? The rope. Oh, the skinless glizzy. The coordinator glizzy. The skinless glizzy. Yep. My I don't have a big old answer like Danny. I just like it because it's scaly. Yeah, it's like the movie of horror movies is.
01:40:29:10 - 01:40:57:07
You like it because it's scary. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Danny, I love your explanation of the arrival of the Terminator, and it feels like that should be like. It's a great introduction. I feel like that should be, like, the pick, but I think I'm going to go with the introduction of the Terminator to Sarah Connor in techno Noir club.
01:40:57:09 - 01:41:20:23
I love just like that whole sequence. I love, like that visual, like maybe just because I've seen it so many times, but like that visual of him, like in that big coat and you're like, pulls his gun out and he's got, like, it's got like the laser sight and just that whole atmosphere. I mean, she doesn't know he's a robot at that point, but that's the first time that, like, she's in danger, I guess.
01:41:20:25 - 01:41:41:02
Yeah, he's still a threat. He's still a threat. Yeah. I just love that whole sequence. So I'm going to go with that. I'm going to go with that. The techno club, that's a good pick because that's like what sets that's where everything is like I don't know like the the ignition is turned. You know, everything else up to that point is we're just getting into the car right then and there.
01:41:41:02 - 01:42:04:00
It's like we're fucking kicking it in a drive. Like this movie is fucking going, yeah, the ignition has been turned. That someone the whole movie, like someone's been revving the engine. And then when that happens a little bit, a little bit, I can put it in drive from home and fucking crank that shit. Which two things I love it about that Danny, your car impression and two cases.
01:42:04:00 - 01:42:35:25
Reaction to your car. Your face looked like such a shame. Just like you're trying to be a sexy car. It was weird. No. Oh, well, I've never done Christine. Oh, that's good guys. Yeah, we got it. Get. You know what else? I know what you've never fucking movies. We've never done a lot of An American Werewolf in Paris.
01:42:35:28 - 01:43:01:23
I mean, that's what would be the triple feature and then be a third movie for Christine and An American Werewolf in Paris. Something like American Made because you got Americans. You got the show, the car jacked up. Dear God, God damn it, that's good. American made, American made that man. Well, maybe you guys will see that, triple feature in the future.
01:43:01:25 - 01:43:16:15
Yeah. Through. Vroom vroom vroom vroom. Danny, I got I kind of got chills right there.
01:43:16:17 - 01:43:22:08
You got it. You got a skinless glizzy.
01:43:22:10 - 01:43:36:21
They make them give you a skinless order. Oh, no. Oh my God. Okay. All right, well, now it's time for a segment that we like to call the real monster.
01:43:36:23 - 01:44:02:15
Run, run, run as fast as you can, okay? I'm the gingerbread man. You're a monster. I'm not a monster. Here you are. You and the rest of that fairy tale crash poisoning my perfect world. Now tell me, where are the others? Eat me. All right, Casey, before you fall asleep, why don't you tell us your real monster.
01:44:02:18 - 01:44:38:25
You big awake? You, no, it's the name Sarah Connor. Just. Dude, I was thinking about this movie. Like, is everyone in this Terminator universe? Name two first names. Yeah, that Sarah, Sarah Connor, not Terminator. Kyle Reese. The Terminator is some of the. What do you think Kyle Terminator is encountering? No. But it's just it's the name Sarah Connor.
01:44:38:25 - 01:45:07:02
Just because it's common. I mean, the name Sarah in general, because it's so fucking common. And, you know, if there would have only been one Sarah Connor, he could have just killed her. And we. This mess could have just. Yeah, she could feel like in fucking Los Angeles, there's probably more than three probably there really? Okay. Yeah, I have to, I've got the Terminators themselves in general for killing dogs.
01:45:07:05 - 01:45:36:07
That sucked. And then I have rude customers at restaurants. Oh, yeah? Yeah, yeah. For sure. Fucking kid I wasn't. He terminated. She was having a hard day. People were, you know, saying, hey, that's not what I ordered. I ordered the fucking chili cheese glizzy with the French fries. Sir, this is whatever this. Like this. Then you had the lady being, like, more appropriate, the little lady being like, hey, we're ready to order.
01:45:36:07 - 01:46:00:03
And then the fucking kid with the stick in the fucking ice cream in her apron. I was thinking he should be so happy that his parents let him get ice cream for him to fucking dispose of. Yeah. What kind of kid? Ferocious ice cream away in a fucking stranger's apron. A real weirdo, a real monster. That's the real monster.
01:46:00:05 - 01:46:17:06
Piece of shit. Oh, and I also have the, the guy at the phone booth who. I don't know who he was talking to. I assumed he was talking to like his wife or girlfriend, but he's like a truck. Hagrid. Yeah, but it's fucking like truck broke down or something and he's like, he said, I don't care what you're doing.
01:46:17:06 - 01:46:39:29
Come pick me up, come get me. And I was like, dude, you suck. So many 80s were men in the 80s. 80 fucking peoples. Yeah, men suck. Anyways, that's what I got. Danny. I have a handful. I have, for real monsters. I have Ginger's boyfriend, Matt, for basically kissing Sarah at the door. Oh, yeah. When she's.
01:46:39:29 - 01:47:03:14
I think I'm not sure if she's leaving or coming in. She's leaving. So inappropriate. Yeah. Oh, my God, what a fucking piece of shit. My second real monster, goes to speed ramping. I've never. Yeah, I've never watched a movie and was like, it works. That's not true. We just watch Abe Lincoln, vampire Hunter and the speed ramping worked in Abe Lincoln vampire.
01:47:03:14 - 01:47:31:24
Good. Okay. It's just a digital speed ramping. Always fucking great. A built in camera. Speed ramping. Okay. Like old school speed ramping. Yeah. Abe Lincoln vampire Hunter was different because they go from like that was in our, you know, the age of digital editing. And they went from like slow motion to fast to normal speed to whatever. This was like trying to speed up slow footage to make it look for Twitter to apply it.
01:47:31:24 - 01:47:55:06
We're going faster. Yeah. It's like you're not fooling anyone nor I. Yeah, this is annoying. Watch some old James Bond movies. It's hilarious. The speed. Like they're just people driving maybe five miles per hour, and they're just fast, and that's it. It's just something else. Do it. They don't do anything. Well, yeah, because everything else around them moves fast as well.
01:47:55:13 - 01:48:23:17
So basically. My third, and penultimate, real monster is the terminator's hair. It's just, it's got a mind of its own. Yeah. You could clock the changes in Arnold's hair in this movie. It's hilarious. And then my final and maybe the most realistic real monsters is the gas station service bill. In the very end of this movie.
01:48:23:20 - 01:48:46:02
Does not make the ding sound when Sarah drives over it. And it is. You have this movie that is just deeply satisfying on every level. And then you see her, like, coming in, like rolling and you're like, oh yeah, give me that take, give me that anything. And then it just like, silence and I just, it's just fucking broke me a dingus.
01:48:46:02 - 01:49:05:21
Bill. Yeah. When they were filming that final scene, like in the desert, they didn't have a permit, and they just had, like, they were setting up and they were waiting for really quick time to shoot. Yeah. And, no cars had been by the whole day when they were setting up. And as soon as they started, like, to roll, a cop car came out of nowhere and said, like, what do you guys doing?
01:49:05:21 - 01:49:24:01
Do you have permits? And they were like, And so one of the special effects guys, like his son was there, and he was like, my son is shooting up. We're helping my son shoot a project for his, for his film school. And so we're just doing this. And the cop was like, okay, well, I guess if it's for that, like, well, just wait.
01:49:24:02 - 01:49:46:23
Hurry up and do it. Amazing. And so they got the final shot of the movie and, and, imagine being the cop that almost ruined the Terminator. Yeah, yeah. For that. And so, so that that was funny. But the end of this movie has something that I know you are a fan of. Yeah. Care to elaborate? Big old matte painting?
01:49:46:25 - 01:50:05:00
Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was cool. I just love a good nice. I love a good matte painting, even when it doesn't look even when you you can tell it's a matte painting. Like, it's still like there's some scenes and almost argue the movie didn't need it, but, Right. Damn. There's like some scenes in, in Nightbreed where they show.
01:50:05:00 - 01:50:24:26
Like, who? Gideon. Is it Gideon? Is that what it's called? Gideon. And, I was. They show this at the cemetery and when they show, like, a big wide shot of it, it's clearly like a matte painting. And it it looks fake, but it's so satisfying. Like in the world of the movie, I just I loved it.
01:50:24:28 - 01:50:56:01
All right, our last and final segment for our high octane Kills triple feature is Would You Survive the Terminator? And here we go. Since no, no, I wouldn't Kyle Reese, who is a resistance fighter from the future, had such a hard time killing this Terminator here, and he knew what he was in for, and he knew what he was in for.
01:50:56:01 - 01:51:26:08
I just actually so focused with the gym sin. So my son was saying I would survive only if Kyle Reese came to protect me. However, there is a caveat here. Since I cannot physically carry a baby, there, he wouldn't be protective. Yeah, and for that reason, no, I would not survive. He would simply see me, would walk past me and would not protect me.
01:51:26:11 - 01:51:47:00
Damn. We all died. Yeah, for sure, if I do, if I don't get, If I don't get killed by the Terminator, I'm getting killed by that nuclear war that happens in a few years. Yeah. I mean, in the event of the apocalypse, I'm not trying. Oh, I would be a resistance fighters. No, I'm. I'll be like, man, I will not.
01:51:47:00 - 01:52:09:00
Interestingly, the first thing I would do is find a headband and I'd be like, put it around. No. Not interested. This would be the dumbest feature to save. So a timeline that we're in, it's so fucking annoying. Exactly. Okay, you guys, that is. That's the Terminator. That is our high octane kills triple feature. If you guys out there have seen The Terminator, hopefully you have.
01:52:09:05 - 01:52:30:07
I'm sure you have. It's a classic. We have let us know we hadn't seen it, but we want to know your thoughts on The Terminator. Find us on social media. We're on all the social media platforms, most of them, I should say most of them, at how I Met Your Monster. You can also send us an email at how I Met Your Monster podcast at gmail.com if you want to do it that way.
01:52:30:13 - 01:52:50:28
But we want to hear your thoughts on The Terminator. Specifically Terminator one. Let's keep it. Let's not get too crazy. There's too many Terminator one. But now it's that special time at the end of a triple feature that we get to announce our new baby. It's like a baby announcement. Are you guys ready for this?
01:52:50:28 - 01:53:14:27
This is so exciting. Yeah, it's a new triple feature coming up. And, with the month of March quickly approaching, we kind of wanted to lean into the let's look at the Irish. We've got a man here from Ireland now. Hello. How are you?
01:53:15:00 - 01:53:27:17
Oh, hello. It's, You guys, our newest triple feature is , but you let me say it for you that.
01:53:27:19 - 01:53:57:15
Yeah. I'm sitting here with bated breath. You know, Mr. Irishman, please tell us what a new feature is. A triple feature and how I Met your Monster podcast. Here's one lucky fox. But you got a star out. One of the the vowels in there because, you know, del del flag us for sure. And and the social medias, in case anybody couldn't understand the Irish accent and.
01:53:57:19 - 01:54:00:21
Yeah.
01:54:00:24 - 01:54:35:09
It's unlucky. Fuck, yes. Next to his head, sir, is Lassie. Our next triple feature. I know he's the dude. Our next two will feature. Unlucky fucks will feature, movies where characters have extreme bad luck and, we're going to start with a movie that I think gives some characters the most bad luck. Cabin fever. We're going to do, Eli Roth's original Cabin Fever.
01:54:35:12 - 01:55:06:14
And then Casey, what are we following that up with, some leprechaun? Oh, the leprechaun just, just in time for Saint Patty's Day. Yes, yes, we will be doing leprechaun, starring Jennifer Aniston and, Danny and or Irish man. What are we, rounding out the, triple feature? My pick for the unlucky folks triple feature is, Final Destination.
01:55:06:17 - 01:55:23:19
I haven't watched that in a minute. That is going to be fun. Oh, yeah. You can't be, luckier than these poor little sad fuckers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's, that's not a good day. And we may, have some special guests joining us for this triple feature, which is going to be a lot of fun. So you don't want to miss that.
01:55:23:19 - 01:55:47:20
So make sure to subscribe to our show on, wherever you get your podcasts. And find us on Patreon, or on social media. With that being said, where can our listeners find you guys on social media? I am on Instagram at Wolf's mother, Casey. Awesome, awesome. Danny. Irishman. Irish. Danny. You can find me at the end of the rainbow.
01:55:47:20 - 01:56:17:26
You know? And, yeah, you can find me, on various socials like Instagram and Blue Sky, maybe even threads. I'm not sure if I saw post there, but it's at my name. Danny Slim. That's Danny Salemi. Two M's like candy melt in your. But not in your hands. Now, here's a question. If you were time traveling in this, in this device that they used to come back to 1984, in the Terminator.
01:56:18:00 - 01:56:50:19
Oh, would the M&Ms in your butt survive the trip? Yeah. I mean, you could argue that some of the, the sweeteners are, kind of like a synthetic. Yeah, that's, but there are organic parts, so you would you would basically retain the thick candy shell, but you would not have maybe some of the coloring. So you'd have a very bland, tasteless M&M above the taste, but.
01:56:50:21 - 01:57:13:12
So like the chocolate would be gone. Yes. It would just be the chocolate would be gone. It would be just the shell. It'd be a shell of an Eminem. So like my ass would just be producing Eminem shells. You. That is a more thorough answer that, wanted. Yeah. So, yeah. Make sure to join us for unlucky effects.
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And thank you all for listening. Now go meet some monsters.