Continuing our CRUEL SUMMER triple feature, we’re trespassing on ancient Mayan ruins to meet an infestation of carnivorous vines in Carter Smith’s THE RUINS, starring Jena Malone, Shawn Ashmore, Jonathan Tucker, Joe Anderson, Laura Ramsey, and Dimitri Baveas.
Continuing our CRUEL SUMMER triple feature, we’re trespassing on ancient Mayan ruins to meet an infestation of carnivorous vines in Carter Smith’s THE RUINS, starring Jena Malone, Shawn Ashmore, Jonathan Tucker, Joe Anderson, Laura Ramsey, and Dimitri Baveas.
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Today we continue our girl Summer triple feature with Carter Smith's plant based bloodbath. The flowers are harmonizing, the locals are supervising, and Weed Killer just isn't going to cut it. As we trespass on an ancient Mayan temple to meet an infestation of carnivorous vines in the ruins. You're listening to how I Met Your Monster. A podcast that explores the introductions to your favorite movie monsters.
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Okay. Today we continue our cruel Summer triple feature with a movie that looks hot, but it was filmed cold. It's the ruins. Is that like the key? The take away, like everyone knows. Like. Oh, the ruins. They shot that in the winter, right? This. But it's so summer. Yeah, yeah. I don't think that's a well known fact, but, it's something I live.
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Now it is. If you listen to the show, that's going to be your go to fun fact about this movie where they in the winter in Mexico. I don't know where, Australia. Okay. I think they were Australia, because it's obviously built that temple there. Winter feels like our summer. Okay, so yeah, I don't know when they shot it, but I guess it was cold.
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Oh, okay. They it was cold when they filmed it. They actually built the temple because they wanted, like, you know, the surrounding area to be real and not like have to replace it with the, with a screen. So filmmaking has, taken a turn. I mean, I'm sure it was like a facade. I'm sure it's not like, yeah, but, that's pretty cool.
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I had no idea. Yeah, I assumed everything in this movie was just real planned. Everything. Temple. Yeah, it's a documentary. Gentleman's conviction. And her acting. Dude, we're going to talk about Jenna malone a little bit on this episode, for sure, because, oof! Oof! It's a good. Oof! Yeah. Oof! Can we go both ways? Is that a is that a are we leaving a left on the.
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Oh for right on the. Oof. Well and going by political standards leaning right. Oh no no. But did you guys know this was produced by Ben Stiller? Did not know. Yeah. It was. His production company is called a Red Hour Productions. I've also seen it called Red Hour Films, but they bought the rights to the story before the book was even published.
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Oh, they were in it. Yeah. So it was written by Scott Smith. And he sent them the first three chapters and an outline for the rest of the story, and they bought the film rights and they were like, okay, we're going to do this well. And Scott Smith wrote, it's not like he was just coming out of a feel.
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He had wrote it. We wrote the book A Simple Plan, which Sam Raimi set up directing. Right, so that there was a little bit of, I wonder if that's the movie they thought they were getting, if they knew. I mean, I'm I'm sure they because it's not supernatural, but it has the flavors of a supernatural like a monster movie, in essence.
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Yeah, I guess I just really I mean, Stephen King called the book, the best horror novel of the new century, so maybe they were, oh, they were onto something there. Okay, good. Good instincts. And, the director, Carter Smith, was suggested to Ben Stiller by, Steven Spielberg because he saw Carter Smith was, I guess, like, like a well known fashion photographer.
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And he made a short film called Bug Crush that Spielberg saw, and he recommended him, to Ben Stiller and the production company for for this. And they were like, okay, you know, you've been mentioning his name a lot. No one's Ben Stiller than the corpses in this movie. Danny. You're fired. I yeah. Okay. Casey, you picked the ruins for our triple feature.
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Had you seen this before, or was this your first time watching it? And you just wanted to see it? I've seen it before, but I only watched it for the first time a few months ago. Okay. Yeah, I saw it when it. I don't want to say when it came out, but it was like I, it was like I rented it.
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Well, this is pride Month. Oh, it's appropriate. Okay. The movie came out. Oh, nice. It took me a minute. I was like, oh, that I'm in. I've been in a very punny mood this week, so that may be the last one, but I'm just, you know. Yeah, we can I doubt it, I doubt it, I doubt into. But now I'm okay with the pressure's on.
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Now I'm like, oh my God, I hope I'm really punny today. You're a punny, funny guy. Danny, had you seen it before? No, I've never seen it. But what's funny is I remember when the book came out, I was really excited. I think I just seen the I'm a sucker for a good Stephen King recommendation. And I saw that quote, and I was like, oh, I'm going to get this book.
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And I bought it. And they, I think I read like the first few chapters. Okay. And for whatever reason, I never I put it down and I never came back. No. But and then I saw the movie was coming out. Maybe that's what it was. I wonder if I got the book also on top of that, because I knew they were going to do a movie and I was just very excited and yeah, never, ever finished reading it and then never saw it.
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And then there was some movie, I have this weird. Yeah, I feel like I have, like, an issue with this, with this book and this movie in this world that, Scott Smith created, but I don't there's no BS. But did you like it? The plant based BS? Oh, I loved it. I really enjoyed this quite a bit, actually.
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I'm not a huge fan of the body horror, but I like when it's done in service to the story in a way that's kind of creative. And this felt like that. It was. It was scratch and that itch. Right? Or cut in that, damn, there's something that something was me. There's a poison ivy joke there. And look at it say, how much of it do you remember?
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Yeah, I did like it. I remembered not a lot of it. Not a lot. Okay. That makes, like, I didn't remember the ruins or the plants or the story. I'm pretty sure I remember, like, I remembered it was plants, but I didn't remember. Like what? Like how it went down. I didn't remember the fucking like that.
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They could mimic the sounds. Oh, that was that was fucking cool. Like when that happened that I was like, oh, shit. You know, they find the archeologist and, like, they have her cell phone, right? And they're like, oh, it's broken. But then you still hear the ringing. And I was like, oh, okay. Well, that's his second phone.
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Yeah, that's his brother's phone that's over there somewhere else. And I was like, okay, yeah, but then you see the little petals and I was like, oh, that's fucking cool. That's awesome. So yeah, I'm glad that was almost like, you know, it was almost like I hadn't seen it before at that point because I was like, that's awesome.
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Obviously we're going to get into like the nitty gritty of, the movie and like the plants, obviously, the those are the monsters of this movie. Or maybe are we the monster or humans? The monster or American Forest, the monster is the real question. Yeah. Is Jenna malone the monster? Let's see. Wait, are you talking Jenna alone or Amy, the character she's playing?
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Oh. No. Oh, God. No, no. I like Jen Malone. Is is not my favorite actress, but I enjoy hearing a lot of things. Oh, see, I love Jenna malone. We were basically friends in high school because when I was in high school, I watched so many Jenna malone movies. Yeah. You know, what's a movie with Jenna like?
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I don't know if it was the first time I saw her. It could have been. I want to say it. Was it called The Secret Life of Altar Boys? Dangerous with the dangerous lives of altar boy. It's a Kieran Culkin, right? Kieran Culkin and Emile Hirsch and Emile Hirsch. Yeah, yeah. Oh, obsessed with that movie. When I was.
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That was a good movie because it was like he would like. I think there was like a comic element to it. He would like draw comics and then it would like, go into the animation and then it would be like, oh yeah, that was cool. I bet it's horrible, but I oh no, I remember that movie being there.
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I know, but when we were young, you know, oh, it's probably not the same. That's the part that I remember the most is when the, the, the guy in the trailer is smoking weed and he has a little roach and the kitchen smells like a rat turd, and he goes, he's like one, two and two and oh man, yeah.
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So I that again. But it's like speaking of weed. Oh yeah. And there's some weeds in real life that, I can't speak to whether or not they directly influenced this book. Danny, you're a botanist. Yeah, I'm. I'm a bit of a botanist. You know, if I were a teacher. Oh, here we go. Talking about fucking Hogwarts again.
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If I was teaching at Hogwarts, I'd be teaching herbology. Oh, speaking of Hogwarts, have you seen my hat? Where's it? Oh, it's a bratwurst. It's I want. Yeah, it's a fucking hot dog. So, wiener time for hot dog talk. Oh, yeah? How talk? Talk of the boys. Yeah. I don't know what that has to do with Hogwarts, but I guess I was thinking, like, well, I.
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So I thought you. When you said Hogwarts, I immediately thought of bratwurst, but that there's something there. Oh, but pork. That makes sense. Yeah. Anyways, I never turned down an opportunity to talk about hot dogs. You know, we'd love those hot dogs. Is, the plants in this movie because they are carnivorous vines. Yes. And speaking of carnivorous, I'm doing a lot of.
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And speaking of that, Danny wants to tell us about plants, so I just want to talk about the flowers in the movie and the real life flowers. And there's plants, and they're scary and they're real. Okay, so, yeah, here's some real life plants that may or may not have inspired this movie, but probably dead in some in some way.
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There's this plant called the vampire vine. It basically latches onto mother plants for nutrients, and it forms a tangled web like mass. So it basically dried like a vampire. Okay. There's something called stranger figs, not to be confused with Stranger Things, because instead of the weird things, it's figs. Yes. Basically what they do is they grow really fast and they strangle other trees.
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So, the chokers, you know, not the necklace. Gotta love a good choker. I know. What are we not those face huggers either? Oh, yeah. Very similar to a facehugger. Yes. So the the face huggers of the the. Oh, by the way, I wasn't talking about, like, choker. Like a necklace. I was talking about like. Oh, like joking.
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Like getting choked. Yeah. Took me daddy took me daddy. Oh, I get it. And then you said the face hugger, I get it. Yeah, we're on the same page. But in a different book or in the same book, but on a different page. Obviously. Then there's the Venus flytrap needs no introduction. We all know how that works.
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And if you don't open a book, and then I have two more. There's the picture plants. They, they literally look like pictures. And they look everybody knows what those are. Two really? I think I may have seen these in like, really planet Earth. But yeah, I think I can't take one back up them a wet, oh, no, I heard that I love me a good a wet picture.
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Picture basically what they do is like they, I was thinking about like a, like sexualized baseball pitcher and get in catcher. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. They're the, they're the pitchers of the, of the plant world. A lot of people don't know that. But basically what they do is they lure prey by basically looking good and smelling nice, and then they drown them in their nectar, not their never.
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I think it's just nectar. Maybe it is their nectar. I don't know, you get nectar. How do they how do they secrete this nectar? It just kind of like fills up. I guess the take, they just like, squeeze it out that it's like, oh, it's just like when the, the levels rise. And then finally I have a plant called.
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I don't have the plant. There is a plant called the Devil's Trumpet. And it basically just makes you trip balls, makes you hold down. So we've got a vampire vines, suckers, stranglers, eaters, drowned and hallucinated. They were fucking crazy. Sounds like a good Friday night. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Exactly. Yeah. I just described my plans for pride Month in San Francisco.
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Oh my God. So, speaking of the book, you were talking about how those plants may have, may or may not have inspired the book. Scott Smith's got to listen to this is going to be like, they didn't like. No, they didn't know. But one thing that I thought was interesting about the book is that so you know how Stacy is the one that, like, gets the vines, like, inside her and she's like, cut them all out in the book, it's Eric that happens to her boyfriend.
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I don't know why it changed. That's all the information I have. But I thought it was, I bet I know it. Interesting. Shawn Ashmore, who plays Eric, also played Iceman in the X-Men movies. So I wonder if who did those movies before it was before the MCU? So that was surprising. Oh, you mean but the studio?
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Yeah, I bet they were like, listen, we have this character and this entity, you know, like the X-Men series, and we cannot have this character who is known by most audiences as Iceman. You can't also the plant, you can't have plant abilities, you know, like a poison Ivy kind of superhero. So I feel like there was, some, you know, lines.
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They didn't want any lines being crossed. No. And, yeah, I'm sure it had nothing to do with wanting to show more skin from a pretty woman. Know woman. Yeah. See? Yeah, I bet it had nothing to do with that. And think about that, because he wasn't like. I genuinely didn't think of that. There is one scene where she gets naked.
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I was like, oh my God. She's like, won't the plants ever take her? Like, get her out of here? And not for the women in this movie. Give me some more of, give me some more of Jeff with his shirt off. I want to see his vine. Speaking of Jeff with his shirt off and and wet vines and, Becky with the good hair back.
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Jeff with the shirt off and Becky with the good hair. Is there was it? Yeah. There was a deleted scene where it, like, it rains and they, like, celebrate and collect a whole bunch of water, and then they start drinking because they are, they're like celebrating, getting extra, like, plants hate water. And it's like a whole thing.
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But Jeff has his shirt off again, and he's all, like, muscular and there's just slow motion. Just cool. Like Zach. Welcome. I also have what could have also, what's the alternate ending, for this that, I bet I know what the alternate ending is. I think it's a little better than the actual ending, but because Jenna malone must die.
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You sort of talk about it, you should receive it. Sure. You talk about it like right now. All right. Can I guess what it is? Guess what it is. This is what I wanted to happen, and I'm trying to judge the movie. You know, we're all, you know, everything's subjective. She's driving away, and we see that last shot, and then we we close in on her, and we see, like, a little vine slither in, like, her head or somewhere in her body.
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And then it cuts to black, which wasn't injured, though I know, but like, you'll find out that she was. I was surprised because she's the first one to step on the plants. Yeah, but the they only seem to do anything to you if you are hurt. Yeah, I like to, like, Drawn to Blood. Yeah, yeah. You know, what I thought was going to happen was there's a scene when they're, you know, in the rationing, all the food and they're eating.
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There's a scene where, Jeff's character is passing out the grapes and there's a closeup. And I think it's just to emphasize, like, look how few grapes we've got. But they have a closeup on the grapes, and I thought it was going to be something that we were going to go back to that where the grapes are, like, kind of had something on them, like something from the vines, and that it was going to like start to grow inside of them.
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And that was going to be a big reveal. And we're like, cool, there's just no one safe. But yeah, my guess for the alternate ending, yeah, is into Amy carries Jeff down the stairs. And she sets him down and Jesus's name is Dan. And then they should be, because he was going to be a fucking doctor, and he was the only person who contributed to any of the good in this movie, and they fucking killed him.
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And the stupid cunt lived. Anyway. What was the actual alternate ending, exactly? It's like I can't carry him down these temple stairs out of him and I'm in flip flops. My future getting that's going back. Yeah. Dude, no. So, Amy drives away and then they don't have the the two Greek people coming to the temple. Amy drives away and then it fades to a a cemetery and you see, like a funeral in the background.
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And then it like, kind of the camera pans over and there's like a caretaker there, and he's like, cleaning up some graves and he's whistling, and then he stops, but then he hears whistling again, and he goes over to like, investigate where the whistling is coming from. And you see a grave that just says Amy on it. Jesus doesn't even have her last name.
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Amy. Yeah. Amy, played by Jenna malone. But there's like three of, like, the plants that are, like, blooming right at her grave. And it's like, you can see him moving and they're whistling. Wait, that's such a fun ending. The caretaker, like, sort of reaches towards one and then it cuts to black and there's like a sound effect of kind of like a, you know, like you could tell it took him because, like, sound effects, you know, delicious.
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I'm trained on these chicken nuggets. NUM num num num num num num. And so that was the that was the alternate ending, which I think is much more fun than having the Greeks show up and being like, oh, they could have been saved because they probably wouldn't have been saved. They wouldn't have been saved, though. The whole thing would have happened all over again.
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Those Mayan people would have just, like, killed them. You know what I mean? So, I think the alternate ending is much better. So I'm looking it up right now. I won't spoil it, because if you're listening and you want to watch or you want to go and read the book, but I will just say you can Google this.
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But the ending of the book is very different then. But that's all I have to say about that. Okay. Yeah. Very different. And then from also from what we got. But I love that. Well what a great. And so did they film that. Did you get to see that alternate ending at the graveyard? Oh yeah. Yeah. You can watch it.
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Oh, because you said you saw her name on the thing. Well, it wasn't Jenna malone's name. What are you talking about? No, I'm just saying. Because you said it. Said it just said Amy in the head. Sorry, I forgot you had said that. Yeah, it says, but it's like it has a it has like 1986 to 2000 and something, but it doesn't have like a last name.
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It just as Amy said, it was like, it's fucking weird shit. That last name, she was like Cher. But yeah, but she's the chair of this movie's universe. And we just they didn't go into that. You can watch it on YouTube. You can just Google it and, or just go to YouTube and search for the ruins alternate ending.
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Just type in. Amy. Well, maybe they didn't go with that because she. But like, so like I said there she wasn't injured. So we'll see. I thought it was so cool because, I thought it could have been cool because she drives away. And I guess you're to, like, assume that she's spreading this plant with her because it was, like, on her clothes and stuff.
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That's what I thought. But this kind of split it, that alternate ending kind of solidifies it, and I like. Yeah, that's true. See that? That's the thing is, I think because I was wondering that too, like what the rules were and I was like, okay. So clearly every time there's an open wound the planes get in, but then they keep showing how they're like, oh, it's on our shirts, on our clothes.
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So kind of like pollen or something like it'll, it'll plants will figure out a way for, to spread their. Yeah. Their, their nectar. There's. Yeah. Because you see it on especially on Jeff's clothes towards the end on his blue shirt you see like patches of, like moss. Almost like it's growing. All right, well, are you guys ready to head to Mexico in a, temple off the beaten path that was covered by a couple branches and.
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Yeah, like like nobody can find this. Let's put a stick in front of this path. Okay. I think I see a truck with the words taxi on the door. Let's check. Let's get in. Yeah. Are you guys ready to go to that place? With those plants and vines. See?
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And.
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You.
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We need a sequel to this movie where it's like the stoner version where the plant, like, It's it's we. Oh, I guess I'm sure there was a movie like. Oh, yeah, there's like, oh, a bunch of weird, like, stoner horror movie weed, man. Like evil Bong. There's like five evil bong. Yeah. Oh, and there isn't one in this universe.
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Well, one of them have a gingerbread man. There's a gingerbread man. Yeah, I think Gary Busey is in that. Oh, but that's of that's within the evil bong. I think their universe. I think that's a movie and Evil Bong's movie. And then I think there might be like an evil bong versus gingerbread man kind of thing. That makes sense.
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It's, it's full moon features. Who who did like the monster movies? So it's like Ginger, Dead man versus evil Bong, ginger, dead man. Okay, there's. Yeah. Evil bong, Hansel and Gretel get baked. Yeah, there's a ton of massacre. They're not I don't know, they're not about plants, but. Yeah. Okay, so for the ruins, we have six official monster vehicles.
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And if you're new to the show, a monster reveal is any time that the monster is revealed to us as an audience or to the characters in the movie, Casey, please do us the honors of reading the IMDb synopsis of The Ruins. Since this was your choice for our cruel Summer triple feature, a leisurely Mexican holiday takes a turn for the worst when a group of friends and a fellow tourist embark on a remote archeological dig in the jungle where something evil lurks among the ruins.
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That sounds a little paranormal. Maybe they did that intentionally, because I feel like the marketing for this movie was very much, at least from my memory. They don't really give it away that it's like I know exactly what this movie was before I watched it. Oh, really? Yeah, right. Maybe not. So we're in Mexico and Mexico.
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Okay, so yeah, we've got six reveals. Let's jump into our first one. This is when they get to the temple. So basically it's these four college age students, I guess as ones in medical school. Yeah, they're in their 20s. And, they're on vacation in Mexico and they meet Matias, and he seems like, I guess at the beginning.
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Yeah, yeah. I was like, he's going to rob them. Yeah. I don't quite understand. Like when he finds her earring, why does he look like he did it on purpose? Do you think it was just a throw us off to make us. Well, I think it was him. Maybe because, like, he's across the pool and he sees her and he's got, like, this, you know, he, like, finishes his beer and he's got, like, this kind of sinister look.
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Yeah. Right. And then you find out that he found her earring and he's like the savior, like, oh, thank you. And he's like the super nice guy. Come on this trip with us. And yeah, I think it's to be like, oh, like a little misdirection is something he's. Yeah. Misdirection. Like he's a bad guy. Yeah. And then, you know, to throw you off to be like, he's going to do it.
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Which is funny because he ends up being the first, like, picked up. Yeah. Oh, and he has it the worst. Yeah. Period. Yeah. Poor dude teaches. It's a lesson to be learned by the way listeners, if you see someone and they lost their earring, keep that shit for yourself. Yeah. Not worth. I can take it to a punch.
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Don't be friends with people. Don't make friends with strangers. Don't go on vacation. Have horror movies, tell you nothing. Yeah, just stay in your house. Yeah. Get rid of plants. I mean, final destination. You gotta be careful in your house, too. So. Yeah. Maybe just stay in, like, a padded room. That's what I want to just clear there.
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She, She she seem to be doing fine in there. Yeah, I bet she got, like, three meals a day. Three coffee, three hots in a cup. Comfy place to sleep. You know, she could literally bounce off the walls if she wanted to for fun. Just living the dream. Living the dream. No TV, she doesn't know what's going on in the world.
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It's great. Okay, so, say it again. Mathias. Matic. Mathias. Mathias. Yeah. Fuck. Mathias. Mathias. But Mathias t like you're going to drink the tea, not tea. Mathias. Okay. Tea? No it's not, that's not okay. That's not. It's to you in a sentence. It's like what is this? Is it. It's for tea. It's like. For who? Us. Mathias matches.
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Yeah, okay. It's not okay. So. Yeah, Mathias seems kind of sketch, but then he also shows, like, some good elements too, as, like when they're on the beach and Amy, who's just the fucking worst, is drunk, and she's, like, about to, like, cheat on Jeff. And she's about to kiss Mathias, and he, like, he's like, holding back, but then he's like, waving his arms to the friends to be like, come get this girl, because she's about to do something stupid.
00;27;40;27 - 00;28;01;22
And so you're kind of like, oh, I kind of like him. We like it, I hope, I hope he's loving. Yeah, I hope nothing bad happens to him. It is. That's a. Jeff's a pretty great guy, Yeah, I mean, Jeff, Jeff has his faults, too. I think he was just kind of, he was really itchin to do something medical on that trip.
00;28;01;22 - 00;28;21;06
Well, that's the thing is, everyone else is like, let's cut through this fucking leg. Yeah. He he's. Yeah. I'm. I'm not a doctor, nor, you know, am I, Jeff. Going into med school, but I don't think that. I don't think he was completely wrong. No, he was trying to do. They wanted to leave him down there. Yeah.
00;28;21;09 - 00;28;38;17
Yeah. No, I mean, like, I know he. But Jeff never even wanted to go on the trip in this. Oh, no, he did. No he did. He wanted to go. He didn't want to die. Which is why she fucking survived. It's because she didn't want to go. Yeah, I fucking like Jeff. Just sent, like, everybody down to that pit except himself.
00;28;38;19 - 00;28;53;24
Well, he's like, okay. He's like, you guys are going to have to go. And then he's like, no, actually, you both are going to have to go. The women have to go because they wouldn't have been strong enough to pull anybody up. I understand, but, maybe that's why they're there. He sacrificed himself in the end because of the guilt.
00;28;53;26 - 00;29;12;16
It's like, damn, I really fucked this up, didn't I? I mean, probably that probably was part of it, but it but but his if he still had that that ego he's like, but if I'm going out and going on that fucking banger of a speech and it is going to be dramatic. Well, he originally, you know, originally then the plan was for him to not die.
00;29;12;18 - 00;29;29;05
He just got a little overzealous. Oh, okay. She but because she was supposed to go get help, right. And he's like, I'll be here. Yeah. He's like, I should die in this moment. I feel like that would be kind of epic. Well, he didn't like all he was doing was yelling. He didn't jump or lunge at them or anything like that.
00;29;29;05 - 00;29;52;24
They just shot you, like, startled them. Like what? He started, like one guy and the guy shot, and then everybody else shot because that dude, I want to shoot him. Why does he get to shoot him? He scared me, boss. Okay. So, yeah, our first reveal is when they get to the temple and you just see, like, a big reveal grand thing, and you're just like, okay, this is where shit's going down, right?
00;29;52;26 - 00;30;12;28
And you know, it's going to go down because pretty immediately the cavalry arrives. All these guys arrive on horses. Yeah, a freak the fuck out. Once they get near the temple. Once, Amy steps on the on the vine. Yeah. Fucking taking pictures. And they're like, they're pissed. And she's like, I'm going to sneak another one.
00;30;12;28 - 00;30;33;04
Like, yeah, they're gonna hear it. Cut! Amy is there? Okay, look at this. Look at this. One of my least favorite characters in a horror movie. Amy. She's a party pooper. She's a cheater. She's a cliché photographer taking pictures of, like, the street kids in Mexico. Oh, yeah. Yeah, she's in Mexico, too. She's a flip flop in the jungle where she's a whiner.
00;30;33;07 - 00;30;52;25
She steps on the plants. She's worried later about missing their flight. She's like, I know, Jeff, our flight is tomorrow. She doesn't step up. When Jeff said, someone's got to go down in the hole, nobody says anything. And then Stacy's like, I'll do it. And Amy's like, really? That'd be great. Goddamn it, Amy, who's your real monsters?
00;30;52;25 - 00;31;20;19
I said, you'll find out when we get them. I've got an idea. And this is where we basically find out that these the locals are going to permanently quarantine these tourists. Language barrier is so frustrating, you know? And, and they kill Demetri, who was like, oh, that's right. Oh, yes. One of the Greek guys who was coming with them on this thing.
00;31;20;19 - 00;31;38;06
And, you know, he seemed kind of sketched, too. Yeah. And for all we know, maybe they were going to, like, rob them. Well, you know, I thought about that, like, wonder, like what would happen if they did find his brother and, like, are they going to rob them and throw them in the pit? Oh, I don't know.
00;31;38;06 - 00;31;56;12
But I did kind of think like, well, yeah, if they had survived, I wonder if they were bad guys. Yeah. Because they said they were working on a dig, but they clearly weren't though. Well, they weren't because they weren't. There was one woman who wanted to go there because she knew about oh, she just wanted to go. She was an archeologist.
00;31;56;15 - 00;32;19;18
Oh, okay. Oh. So she knew that that was there. I was going to say, because there wouldn't be an official dig because it's the whole fucking point. But she really was an archeologist. Because if you watch for subtitles like Zack and I do in the beginning it says archeologist screams, I love subtitles. Fake archeology spoil shit sometimes. Like, yeah.
00;32;19;18 - 00;32;44;05
Like, what was it? They did one later where it was like, I don't know, it might have been like the ringing of the phone or something, but it said like plant mimicking. Oh yeah. Oh, plant imitating phone like in subtitles told me. Another reason Amy sucks. She's also just dumb. But you said they shot and killed Demetri, and then they go back up there and she's like, let's just go talk to them.
00;32;44;05 - 00;33;04;14
Oh my God. Oh, no. And she's. Yeah, she comes out of. She's like, someone's hurt. We need help. Like, yeah, they just killed one person. Oh that scene first of all like they can't understand you. And a second they are going to kill you. They're the ones who hurt the people. It's just. It's like there's someone hurt and they're like, oh, you mean this dead guy over here that we.
00;33;04;16 - 00;33;13;21
That Sharon hands over the dragging the corpse away?
00;33;13;24 - 00;33;35;01
Yeah. When they fucking shoot that kid. Oh my God. Oh, that was dark. It was. That's a stage. Another. She's the kid killed. Who throws vines, who throws a vine? Who throws a vine? There was a shoe. Who throws a shoe. Yeah. Threw a rocks next to her. Throw a fucking roach. Yeah, throw a rock. What's the vine going to do other than kill everybody?
00;33;35;01 - 00;33;56;16
Because they were deadly. But you know. God. Yeah, but okay. After the temple, which is our first official reveal, we do get a couple honorable mentions. Matthias has fallen down the hole, and he is seemingly broken his back. Someone has to go down, so they send Stacy, and she's got, like, a. She breaks her back.
00;33;56;19 - 00;34;25;01
It's the same thing just piling up. But, Yeah. So as she's going down, the rope is kind of turning and she has her lantern, and we see one of the vines kind of moving, but it's really, it's really quick. Like if you blink, you would miss it. And so that's an honorable mention. And then when she's down in the cave, she also sees, like, the leaves sort of like shuffle or like, you know, move a little bit.
00;34;25;03 - 00;34;44;01
And we counted that as an honorable mess during the shuffle. Shuffle this out like, like they, they, they instead of, like, the ringing that you hear, they play like a song ringtone that's like, you know, talking about, like, the ringtones used to get, like, their music ends. Like they start like dancing, like back and forth. You see the whole thing.
00;34;44;02 - 00;34;58;19
Like there was a musical number in the book. I'm surprised they didn't put. But then the movie you'd see that in, like if like in Department Store and Christmas or it's like, oh yeah, I think you press the button. They have those characters.
00;34;58;22 - 00;35;32;09
That's a missed marketing opportunity for the for the movie. The dancing carnivorous vines from the ruins. But okay, our second official reveal is, with Stacy when. So when she fell down in the hole, she cut her leg, and, she has, like, an open wound. And, the vines, I guess, are attracted to that. And so I think she was sleeping, and she wakes up and she takes the blanket off, and she's got the vine, like, wrapped around her leg a little bit, and it's inside her.
00;35;32;12 - 00;35;51;16
That was fucking gross. Yeah, we get because they kind of set it up or like clearly something's going to happen. You do get those little like teasers of the moving vines and then because, yeah, because Matthias is outside and he's got his legs are covered too. And we were like intercutting and the like, yeah. He's like, can I see my legs?
00;35;51;18 - 00;36;15;01
After we just saw the vines coming out, you're like, no, because we know he's in worse shape. So like, what is this. Right. So this is our third reveal. Yeah. It's Matthias is legs now vines I have like fully wrapped around his and just like eaten the flesh away. He's just, like, down to bone. And he's freaking out, even though he supposedly can't feel his legs.
00;36;15;03 - 00;36;45;16
We find out later that might not be true. So he couldn't kill them. He was screaming. Why is it Matthias? Just say I can feel them. It's not like he's not there. Like, I don't know. It's like, yeah, whatever. Tears. Yeah. This did make me think of whenever people say like this felt like the visual of when people say, like, nature's healing, you know, like during Covid when like, no one is in the streets and they're like, yeah, the vegetation was, you know, an animal life was spreading.
00;36;45;23 - 00;37;06;21
This felt very much of that essence. So sure, there's something, you know, there's some there's some good in this, you know, there's that's not all bad. Yeah. The plants are like, oh daddy, I just ate leg you. That's good protein. So the leg of the wing, it doesn't have wings. What the fuck kind of chicken are you eating?
00;37;06;22 - 00;37;17;20
Some, human. So stupid.
00;37;17;22 - 00;37;25;18
Okay. Well, daddy, I love him.
00;37;25;21 - 00;37;30;03
I forbid you from eating that human.
00;37;30;05 - 00;37;41;14
Honey, if you forbid her, she's only going to own it. I want to eat where the people are. She's only in a while when I'm more.
00;37;41;16 - 00;38;04;08
Oh, God. Okay, our fourth reveal. This is this. I fucking love this one. Stacy and Amy go back down to the hole. This is which. Okay, I'm going to take a step back here for a second. They make the stretcher, they say out of tentpoles, right? But then how do they still have tents on the mountain?
00;38;04;09 - 00;38;23;05
110 oh, did they bring a tent to, that makes maybe they brought a tent. I didn't think about that, because when they get to the temple, they're like, oh, hey, there's a tent up there. And then they get up there and they're like, here's a tent. Let's cut up the content to make this stretcher. And then they're like, oh, let's go sleep in the tent.
00;38;23;05 - 00;38;48;08
I'm like, if I just cut it up anyways, you know, I don't always count my tents appropriately. You always get thrown off with tents. You don't like tents, I do, yeah, I do better in tents. Situations. Sure. As intense. I tried. I tried to be funny. Danny, you can't beat me. Yeah, when you have sex, when you're camping, it's fucking intense.
00;38;48;11 - 00;39;13;11
Oh, fucking intense. Yeah. What is this, a Friday the 13th movie? You fucking wish, dude. It's episode. Oh, we left this. Oh. Spoiler there. It's all over our social media. Actually, let's let's take this opportunity to promote our next episode. You know, because this episode 13, part four, the final chapter or four, You don't want to miss it.
00;39;13;13 - 00;39;34;20
You don't want to miss it. Because it will be the final chapter in our cruel summer triple feature. I say that on purpose. Yeah, sure you did. I finally did something with intention. Oh, intent. Intention. Oh, there it is. See, this is all meant to be. But. Okay, Amy and Stacy are down in the in the hole with the stretcher, and.
00;39;34;20 - 00;39;56;15
Dude, when they pick up Matias. Oh, my sound, they me fucking laughs. So wait, you laughed I was I literally verbally I went, but it was so epic. They were like, well if we pick them up by the feet and the shoulders, he's going to bend. But if we do this, he's going to spend this way. So let's do the knees okay I got it.
00;39;56;19 - 00;40;05;26
And they pick him up and then he immediately just fucking snaps.
00;40;05;28 - 00;40;25;21
They're like, oh my God, it's so much worse than I thought it'd be. It was almost like a fucking. It should be on family Guy or fucking burger just out of the way. It's like, oh, and but Peter's like, okay, bend at the what is it you use your what? He's lifting the car and he's like, remember, use your back.
00;40;25;21 - 00;40;53;12
Take your knees completely out of the equation like lifts and it cracks and falls over. So funny. But yeah, I laughed so hard when they fucking picked him up. But that's hilarious. But they are looking for the cell phone, right? And they follow the ringing and they go through the temple and they find the dead archeologist and her cell phone is broken and they're like, well, it's not working.
00;40;53;12 - 00;41;14;11
What the fuck? But then they hear the ringing again must be on their phone. They go through the fucking thing and they see the fucking flower. Oh my God, so cool. So good. That was that was sneaky little fuckers. The. Oh and then they, the vines come out and they literally snuff out the flame like they know how to survive.
00;41;14;13 - 00;41;35;28
And like those, they were fucking ringing the whole time. So fucked up like they were trying to lure them down there this whole fucking time. So cool. Which is like, the, the those pitcher plants, obviously they don't use sound, but they, they just it's that they lure them in the like the smell. Good smell, good sex.
00;41;36;01 - 00;41;45;20
It's that good smell and nectar, sweet Gatorade.
00;41;45;23 - 00;42;20;00
So sweet. Gatorade. Eight. I need onion. I'm just glad that at this point in the movie, no one, over exaggerates or goes or like, you know, pushes things too far. Exactly. Let me check my notes. They cut off with tears. His legs. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I bet. Okay. When he fucking dies, like, five minutes later in the next scene and fucking Eric is like, well, good thing we cut his legs off.
00;42;20;02 - 00;42;41;14
Did he say that? Yes. Oh, my God, I didn't catch it. Yeah. Fucking so funny. Oh that's dark. Which I thought was it was, you know, it was like Eric said, absolutely not to cutting off his legs. Yeah. Stacy said yeah, cut him off. And then Eric has that fucking help while Stacy sits in the tent. Oh, yeah.
00;42;41;16 - 00;43;11;07
What they about it? Yeah. Like, what the fuck? Yeah. Eric's the only one, to my knowledge, who really doesn't have any blemishes on him in terms of, like, choices that are made. Sure. Well, he's obviously Amy. She's flawless. Yeah. She's perfect. Jennifer got skin. Amy. Okay, so this is our fifth reveal. It's right after they cut off his legs and you see the vines.
00;43;11;07 - 00;43;34;01
This is now the first time that Jeff and Eric have seen the vines. Like, in motion. They saw him on Matthias, his legs. But I think they were kind of just like there. They just, like, pulled them off, and it was no big deal. I mean, they didn't see them, like, moving out on their own. But now they see him for the first time, like, just hunt out and sniff out, fucking like like, oh, shit.
00;43;34;01 - 00;44;07;21
They're they eat meat. The the herbs are not herbivores. Herbivores, herbivores. Herbivorous rather than herbivores. Herbie. Right. Herbie. Love bug covers Herbie Hancock, Herbie Hancock. They're in somebodys cock. Oh, Herbie's. Yeah. And Matthias and I can Eric see Eric's cock later. Well, there's no bones. That's true. Chewy, this is a hot dog. This is. I dog talk with the boys.
00;44;07;23 - 00;44;36;06
Yeah, I knew we'd get there eventually. Kielbasa. Bratwurst. Ballpark. Franks. Vinas. Schnitzels. Italian sausage. Everything from wet floppy dogs to hard marble rats. This is hot dog talk with the boys. This is. And then right after this, you know, we talked about, Matthias getting killed, and then he talked about. Well, good thing we cut his legs off.
00;44;36;06 - 00;45;00;23
This is a that's our sixth reveal. Sixth and final reveal for the movie, actually. Jesus, when Matthias, gets choked by the vines they're arguing about, like, fucking each other. Oh, yeah? Well, Stacie heard she. Or at least she thought she heard, moaning like sex moans. And turns out it's the plants. Yeah, yeah, I can put it, but they're.
00;45;00;26 - 00;45;20;00
Who are they mimicking? Because you think it's like they're mimicking. Maybe. Maybe those other people had sex on there before they toppled in the thing. Oh, yeah, I was assuming that and I don't. I think they kind of prove that this wasn't the case, that she had vines like, in her brain that were like getting into her head and like fucking with her thoughts.
00;45;20;07 - 00;45;35;15
Right. Well, that's what I thought. I didn't think there was like an imitation of the moaning sounds. I thought it was like because there was one in her brain. They show it. There is. They show it in her forehead. And, I thought it was kind of just like they're in her and they're like, fucking with her somehow.
00;45;35;18 - 00;45;58;05
I do have a quick question. Maybe they talk about this. Why don't the vines leave the temple? How are they? It could be they don't talk about it, but they do show the, the Mayan people, like, laying salt down around the oxide so that maybe they like that. They're like gardeners, you know, they, like, maintain it.
00;45;58;08 - 00;46;16;00
So that's why my garden isn't growing. I keep I do everything right, and then I just like, throw a bunch of salt on it, you know? You know, hey, movies teach you a lot of lessons. But, yeah, speaking about the vine in Stacy's head, she gets on this thing where she just wants to, like, cut them all out.
00;46;16;00 - 00;46;36;21
And so love that she fights, though. When they're sleeping, she finds the knife and she starts cutting all these things out of her, and then, well, she screams, she's screaming, help me! Help me! Then you hear all the plants help! Yeah. Oh, yeah, I love it that. Yeah. I did not see coming. And that is my favorite part of this movie is the sound so freaking cool.
00;46;36;23 - 00;46;56;16
Oh, and then when they're cutting the vines out, she's like, I want to see it. I was like, Stacy, you a freak? I know, like, the acting obviously isn't, perfect in this movie, but I thought this might have been this movie could have been a lot like joke Year. Not in a good way. I mean, I'm glad it's not.
00;46;56;16 - 00;47;18;20
Is what I mean. Like, it's very easily been super corny. Oh that's pretty much like, stupid. Oh, speaking of Howard Howard, ash Ashman who who wrote the songs for The Little Mermaid. He also wrote a little musical number that the plants do the what's what am I, what am I, a little Shop of horrors, Little Shop of Horrors, and say little House of horrors.
00;47;18;22 - 00;47;43;25
He also is the guy who wrote Little Shop of Horrors, wrote Little Mermaid. Well, he wrote the songs for it. He and Alan Menken, he did the lyrics, Danny said. He, like Dennis said, speaking of Howard, whoever, which we weren't speaking of anybody, not sure. And we weren't speaking about the fucking Little Mermaid. No, because in my head I was going to talk about you were talking about, okay, well, I want to circle back to make it make sense.
00;47;43;27 - 00;48;03;06
Making sense intensive. Danny Salem on how we got here. Monster. New segment. So when you were saying a hokey version of this movie, I immediately went to The Little Shop of Horrors, but I couldn't remember the name of it. So then my brain then went to Howard, Ashman, whose name I also can't remember. So then it became a,
00;48;03;08 - 00;48;21;21
Yeah, it was a comedy of errors in real time. And then somehow the fucking. And I made a Little Mermaid reference earlier so that I felt like I could take that back, and it just got a little weird. What was your Little Mermaid reference? I want to be with it. Or I want to eat the people. That's right, I did that.
00;48;21;21 - 00;48;52;00
That is a human eye mermaid. You can't fuck weird. Ariel, go to your room. There's a porn called The Little Mermaid. Oh, nice. There is no mermaid sex, though. You'd be very disappointed. It happens. All the fish turns into a human. What? No, no. Well, let down. Yeah, I was upset, dude. Well, speaking of letdowns, I'm let down by Stacy for fucking killing Eric.
00;48;52;02 - 00;49;10;02
Yeah, dude. Although I did want to make a quick comment when she's cut, when they're cutting into her. They do her leg first and then her back and I and I thought I've heard of a tramp stamp but a spine. Fine.
00;49;10;04 - 00;49;39;23
Get out of here. All right, let's get back. Let's get back to it, Danny. Enough. Enough with the disruptions. We don't need to hear your your silliness. So she stabs Eric, and then they're like, oh, then she's like, fuck, I didn't mean to do that. Kill me, kill me, kill me, kill me. And then so Jeff's like, all right, they get stabs are the one thing that's off screen is like, the one death that was maybe like, please put her out of her misery.
00;49;39;25 - 00;50;06;25
Like, yeah, she does. Yeah. Then he takes, like, the blood and covers it all over Amy to do, like, this whole fucking, to make it seem like she's dead. Yeah. Like, like an escape plan. They're like, oh, this is what we're going to do. And. Yeah, and we've talked about this, you know, at the end he takes her down there, and then he has his whole speech and then she gets up and heads for the trees and spreads the trees, spreads the trees.
00;50;06;25 - 00;50;33;02
Disease. Let's. Good. Thanks. I'm not here to criticize, but my only thing is, I thought I wasn't totally, believing this ending because. Because they kind of established the fact that there are people bordering this entire temple, but then it kind of is implied that they're just at the front, like that one exit. Yeah, yeah. So that.
00;50;33;05 - 00;50;52;22
And then he gives a speech, they're like, yo eyes on him. This is going to be good. Well, they thought she was dead, but she could have been infected. But yeah. Like nobody was allowed to be like any other side of the temple. Yeah yeah yeah. Forget it, hate it. Don't like the movie, but I'm done. Just kidding, I love it.
00;50;52;25 - 00;51;09;20
Well, that's it. I mean, that's that's the ruins. That's, that's a is like an hour and a half. It was like a pretty. Yeah. And and it got moving so quickly, too. Oh, the pacing of this movie tastic. You know, it's literally we don't like a lot of the characters, but I really thought the performances were great, that they did a great job.
00;51;09;20 - 00;51;30;06
I agree, I agree. Yeah. Like Jenna malone didn't do a bad acting job. Just the fucking character is awful. That's why I feel like the payoff would have been more satisfying if we got the ending that you were talking about, where she's dead. Because it is like you hate these characters, and then they essentially spread this thing.
00;51;30;11 - 00;52;00;23
They turn it turned the world into a potential ruin because they're and it's like, oh, of course they did. We fucking hated these people. Like, of course that's how things wrapped up. Yeah. So to see her get away and ride off into the sunset thought, yeah. Disappointing. Yeah. Not bad. Just, it was less satisfying, right? And like, I was more dissatisfied, I guess, with them showing the Greeks show up to, like, totally.
00;52;00;23 - 00;52;27;00
That just seemed like a kind of, it's kind of the same thing, but. Yeah. And then it just like, it seems like it's just showing that the cycle is just going to keep repeating. Yeah, yeah, it was something. Okay, so we've talked about our monster reveals throughout the ruins, and now it is time to pick our favorite monster reveal in Carter Smith's The Ruins.
00;52;27;02 - 00;52;43;01
All on their. I don't think anyone. That's how they can just. They're under the goddamn foreign.
00;52;43;03 - 00;53;06;26
Okay, so here is a speed round recap of our six official reveals for the ruins. I do have special T titles, that we can go off of, to choose our favorite reveal. So here we go. Number one is the reveal of the temple, aka the Temple of Bloom. Oh, that's so good. Thank you, thank you.
00;53;06;27 - 00;53;40;08
Number two. This is when the vines are on Stacey, aka leg. It's. What's for dinner? Number three. Stupid number three. This is right after that. This is this. This is, This is legs, aka. It's tasty. It's it's tasty. And if you don't get that reference, that is, a little Tom green throwback, from Road Trip.
00;53;40;10 - 00;54;03;08
Number four, this is where the vines, we see the vines, mimic the cell phone. And then they kind of, like, attack Amy and Stacy. Aka the vines are alive with The Sound of Music. That's actually really good. Number five, this is when the vines kind of reach out and this is when they kind of reach out and take.
00;54;03;08 - 00;54;16;05
Matthias is, severed leg, aka give me a break. Give me a break.
00;54;16;08 - 00;54;42;07
Give me a break. Give me a break. Break me off a piece of that dead guy's leg. And, our sixth and final reveal is when Matthias gets, killed by the vines. They, like, go down his throat. This is, also known as choke me. Plant spice. Plant spice. So what do what does that mean?
00;54;42;09 - 00;55;03;16
Oh. So good. It's like a Spice Girls. I don't know, you're singing the Spice Girls singing about being choked. Choked me playing these quite well. He's getting choked. There's too many tangents where, like, making tangents in our references and the references become the jokes, and then nothing anymore. Okay, we've got the Temple of Bloom. We got the fucking leg.
00;55;03;16 - 00;55;24;11
It's what's for dinner. We've got it's tasty match. We've got. The vines are alive at The Sound of Music. We got the Kit-Kat dead guy's leg theme song. And we've got choked me. Plant spice. What is, Let's. Casey, this is your movie. Let's start with you. What's your favorite reveal in the ruins? I think my favorite part is give me a break, and it's just a thing.
00;55;24;13 - 00;55;44;27
You got to say the whole thing. Give me a break. Give me a break. Break me off a piece of that. The guy's leg. Thank you. It's just because I don't know. Just because it was gross. Yeah, yeah, it was that simple. Well, it is, you know, it is cool. It's like that first time. You know, I think Danny mentioned that, like, it's the first time that, like, we see that they're like hunting.
00;55;44;27 - 00;56;07;22
They're like, right. Going to get their food. Yeah I mean num num num num num. Danny, what about you? What's your favorite? Yeah. Mine's, the vines are alive at The Sound of Music. Okay. A part of the movie. Really creepy. It took I knew what the movie was about, and I felt. Not that I felt like it was a spoiler, but I wish I had gone in blind.
00;56;07;25 - 00;56;28;01
But this was nice to have, like, an extra reveal that I was truly expecting a little over. Yeah, yeah, really enjoyed that. Yeah, I'm right there. I'm right there with you. That is, that's my favorite as well. Just because I was just like, I can. It's so cool to me that they were luring them down there the whole time.
00;56;28;03 - 00;56;45;02
Yeah. It wasn't just like a, a new thing when they were like down there and they saw the phone and they were like, oh, ringing is. Yeah. Because it also kind of like opens up like the hopelessness in the movie, like, oh, well, we thought we had this one. There was one thing that we were trying to get.
00;56;45;02 - 00;56;57;25
Yeah, like the phone that could save us and, and oh. All right. Cool. Well, now it is time for a segment that we like to call the real monster.
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Running around. You run as fast as you can to catch me. I'm the gingerbread man. You're a monster. I'm not the monster. Here you are. You and the rest of that fairy tale trash poisoning my perfect world. Now tell me, where are the others? Eat me. Oh, yeah. All right, everybody, say it on three. One. Two. Three. Army.
00;57;25;13 - 00;57;44;07
Good lord. I mean, she really was mine. All right, now it's time for our next segment. I know, yeah, yeah, she was just just, awful tough. I really was like. I was like, it's Jenna malone. I think she's on the poster. I feel like she's going to be the hero. Okay. Get where, get where? She's there.
00;57;44;09 - 00;58;08;11
Setting up an arc with the arc never comes. Got it. It would have paid off if she had died in that alternate ending. It would have. I would have loved it. I would've been like, great, awesome, awesome, awesome. We need that character to be that off because the payoff is so satisfying. Yeah. You know, I wonder, like, what the like, what was it that made them change the ending?
00;58;08;13 - 00;58;36;16
You know what I mean? I bet it was like a they did a test screening and audiences just scores. Yeah. I said it. I feel like nowadays you we get into, you know, we're kind of coming off of that whole, elevated horror era, I guess, that we were in where, where it's okay to end on a very bleak note because commenting on grief, you know, we're we're kind of we have a very deliberate message that we want to get across.
00;58;36;18 - 00;58;58;18
Yeah. But in like the the 2000s, it was more just this era felt more just, we want the blood and guts, but even hostile has spoiler alert. Not a happy ending, but someone gets away. Like, we needed that release. That safety net. I feel like this came out now. They would have gone for a bleaker ending, more confidently.
00;58;58;21 - 00;59;19;15
Yeah, yeah, that's probably true. So besides, Amy, do you guys have any other real monsters for the ruins? I have three, I have, I know there's a lot of vines, and nature is a thing, but the the there's a specific stick up Jeff's ass in the beginning of this movie. Like, I get it. Like, sometimes I can be.
00;59;19;18 - 00;59;37;03
I kind of lean back and forth between being an introvert and an extrovert. So I get it. And sometimes I don't want to dance either. Like you are on vacation. You're being. There's a difference between not wanting to do something you don't want to do, and then just kind of like dragging everyone down who's kind of dragging them down a little bit.
00;59;37;05 - 00;59;58;25
Then again, I guess we meet Amy and I get maybe he's finally like, I'm so over the shit. Like, so then maybe it's like, I think it's justified. Yeah, I get it. But it's like, I'm going to get you drunk, bitch. That was harsh. You know, no shit. She then, like, cheats on him almost 30s later, so.
00;59;58;28 - 01;00;20;26
Yeah, like, yeah, a few though. I also think it's funny that that couple like they have to wager. Like, the only way they get oral sex and enjoy each other sexually is like, there needs to be something. There needs to be a bet. Yeah, I don't think. Yeah. It's funny. I do have Amy on here, but for specific thing, it's for wearing flip flops on a hike.
01;00;20;28 - 01;00;34;11
Yeah. Don't do it. That was awful. Don't do it. And then my final one is. Which is probably, like, the most real monster is whoever didn't put up a fence around the temple.
01;00;34;14 - 01;00;57;02
Put up a fence? Yeah, like a fence. One sign that says dangerous. Or get into concrete fence. The government, the local government. Like, why isn't anyone. Why are just the locals maybe, I guess, I guess you could argue. Maybe they have more history with this. And it's hard to convince someone that you have this, carnivorous vine.
01;00;57;04 - 01;01;15;09
Oh, I'm sure army of vines. So I guess I could risk getting them out into the world for testing or whatever. Yeah. I'm wondering, like, what is there? Like, do they, like, respect it? You know what I mean? Like, it's, Oh, yeah. That's how that's how. The only way I can say is they respect it where it's like, yeah, it's like a god or something in there.
01;01;15;09 - 01;01;39;03
Like, because they know how smart it is and they know how, like, yeah, I've got one more real monster for the ruins. And it's Jeff for getting dressed out right out of the shower when he's, like, still soaking wet. I was like, dude, that I could just, like, feel the clothes. Yeah. I was like, no, I could do it.
01;01;39;03 - 01;02;04;17
And it's also so sweaty down there. So it's not like you're going to be like, less moist by the time you go outside. Got bros last couple, and she, like, pukes in the toilet, and then you're like, they just, like, make out afterwards. Oh, call it, you know. Yeah. Clearly he's not going to fucking dental school. Education is the monster.
01;02;04;19 - 01;02;25;06
Just kidding. Demolish the department of it like a stupid oh, God. No, we don't want to do that. Okay, well, now it is time for our last segment. Would you survive? Carnivorous plants in the ruins.
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And here we go.
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No, because you're not only. It's not only the plants, the people down there. You know what I mean? You're not getting out of there. You're truly fucked up. Yeah. That's, that's a tough one. I want to say, like, I don't even know if I would go on the expedition. I might be the part and be like, I would have not gone, but I would have gone in a heartbeat.
01;02;49;18 - 01;03;07;23
Yeah. I've always wanted to see, like, my intentions. I don't like fuck yeah. Couldn't get there fast enough. And then also to know that it's off the beaten path and there aren't any tourists, right. Kind of like have some time with it. Would you do that now after seeing this movie? Oh, baby. Yeah. Like, are you kidding me?
01;03;07;23 - 01;03;35;01
Like, kill me, choke me plant. What was the thing? What was it like? Planted space? Just said, so, I mean, I guess you do want to be on survivor. You. Yeah. That's like, you gotta take. You gotta dig deep, you know? You gotta take risks. Outlive, outwit, outlast. Wait, I say outlive. Yeah. Everybody does that.
01;03;35;01 - 01;03;39;23
Survivor. If you don't win.
01;03;39;25 - 01;04;01;04
Like, how come none of the eliminated contestants have ever come back for, like, a fucking anniversary episode? They're all fucking dead. They vote, and then they die. Damn. Okay. No, I would, I would immediately die also. I mean, it would be painful, but I always think about this in these movies. Like, kind of an epic Way to Die.
01;04;01;04 - 01;04;24;19
Like, I know we didn't get the ending in from the alternate, ending, but, like, died by evil plants on a Mayan temple. Kind of cool. Way to go. Yeah, kind of cool. Kind of rock and roll, dude. Yeah, I don't know. You know, Casey, you've talked about this before where it's like, you, you you know, if you were in some certain situations, you just be like, fuck it.
01;04;24;19 - 01;04;40;14
Just kill my will to live it, you know what I mean? Like, part of me was thinking, like, dude, I would just run down those stairs and just get shot into the fucking Mayans. And they just, like, let them take me out. Feel like that's true, too. You just know, like, I might throw myself off the top. I thought about that too.
01;04;40;14 - 01;05;04;11
Or it's going to be like, you're going to kill me. Can someone get me, like, a clean shot at my head? Just. Yeah. Make it easy for me. Yeah. Like. Yeah. Sandra. Oh, yeah. I was like my mate. I'd like point. I could take some of the. You could take some of the, some of the blood and like make a, you know, turn would do like like fucking like clean and then be like and then like, oh I get it.
01;05;04;12 - 01;05;23;27
Yep. Oh, God. This fucking movie, the Ruins. No, it was good. It was good movie. You know, and I should have bought it. It was 399 to rent or 499 to buy. Bought it too. I know, and I didn't know that I didn't I didn't buy it. I was like, it's a dollar, but I'm probably never going to watch it again.
01;05;24;03 - 01;05;42;27
And I should have damn, I did the same thing. Oh well. Oh, so you rented it? Oh no, I didn't do the same thing. I had literally. Oh, complete opposite what you're saying. There's only two options. I didn't do it. One. Well, yeah. Good for you. You did. You made the right choice. I'll have you guys over some time.
01;05;43;02 - 01;06;12;13
We'll watch the ruins. Okay. Thanks. All right, well, that is our second movie in our cruel summer triple feature. We've already talked about it, but, Danny, remind everyone what our next episode is going to be covering. Yeah. We're going. I feel like this is the the true, like, summer horror franchise. It's, we're we're watching part four in the Friday the 13th franchise, the final chapter really excited.
01;06;12;16 - 01;06;34;06
Crispin glover I oh, yeah. This is the most clever one. Yeah, I've ever seen it. Oh, really? Cool. It's a good one. If I get to rank them, I would probably do like one. And two are usually like in the top they alternate and then four is in my third list in my top three. I love this movie.
01;06;34;08 - 01;06;54;11
It's so much fun. It is like so we're going to get into it, but it is like the epitome of a Friday the 13th movie. Sure. Yeah, it hits all the right. I'll be the judge of that. Yeah, no, it's good. And Corey Feldman is really good. You know, he's little, you know he's young, but. Oh, Danny, are you there?
01;06;54;14 - 01;07;15;29
Okay, well, there has been some technical difficulties, and we just lost Danny. He's here, but we're not letting him speak, so he's just watching us and I get to say his social media. It's currently torture. So, yeah, we are doing Friday the 13th part for the final chapter on our next episode to round out our cruel summer triple feature.
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Okay, you can find how I Met Your Monster on all the social media channels Instagram, TikTok, Facebook. You can't find us on Zo because fuck that place. But we're on a few of the others too, so check us out at how I Met Your Monster. Casey, where can our listeners find you on social media? I am on Instagram.
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It was my other Casey. Awesome. Okay. And this is where Danny would usually say, you could find me on Instagram and blue Sky, at my name, Danny Slim. That's Danny Salemi to memes like the candy melt in your butt, not in your hand. Yeah, I fucking nailed it. Yeah you did, dude. And you can find me on social media at Zach Quinn.
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Sick. Thank you all for listening. Now go meet some monsters.