Wrapping up our CRUEL SUMMER triple feature, we’re renting a summer cabin on Camp Crystal Lake to meet the tenaciously territorial Jason Voorhees in FRIDAY THE 13TH: THE FINAL CHAPTER, starring Corey Feldman, Kimberly Beck, Crispin Glover, Joan Freeman, Erich Anderson, Lawrence Monoson, Camilla More, Carey More, Judie Aronson, Peter Barton, and Ted White.
Wrapping up our CRUEL SUMMER triple feature, we’re renting a summer cabin on Camp Crystal Lake to meet the tenaciously territorial Jason Voorhees in FRIDAY THE 13TH: THE FINAL CHAPTER, starring Corey Feldman, Kimberly Beck, Crispin Glover, Joan Freeman, Erich Anderson, Lawrence Monoson, Camilla More, Carey More, Judie Aronson, Peter Barton, and Ted White.
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Today we wrap up our cruel Summer triple feature with Joseph Zito's summer school staycation. The locals are psychotic, the dancing is chaotic, and nobody can find where the hell the corkscrew is. As we rent a summer cabin on camp Crystal Lake to meet the tenaciously territorial Jason Voorhees in Friday the 13th, the Final Chapter. You're listening to how I Met Your Monster.
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A podcast that explores the introductions to your favorite movie, monsters. My name is Zack. I'm Danny and I'm Casey, and together we dive into the world of horror to find out how filmmakers have introduced us to our favorite monsters time and time again. This is how I met your mom.
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Because you. Oh, great. We met him 15 years ago. I was told there's nothing left for you explorers in the regions of experienced demons to solve the ages, to have a go back.
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To the. Old. Surprisingly. Come on.
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Welcome to how I Met Your Monster, the show where we discuss the introductions to your favorite movie monsters. If you are not subscribed to how I Met Your Monster on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube or anywhere else you get your podcasts, go ahead and follow us so you never miss cool monsters like today's Monster. Wrapping up our cruel Summer triple feature with Friday the 13th and part four The Final Chapter.
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It's not the final chapter I know you know, but it was supposed to so much more. Yeah, it was supposed to be. It was supposed they wanted it to be, I think they wanted it three to be. And then they were like, well, let's make four. Let's wrap it up. Yeah, it is the end of an era, though.
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It's the last time, spoiler alert, that we ever see Jason as a mortal or as mortal as he is, is it? He survives like a lot, but right. He is technically still alive. That doesn't make any sense. I know it doesn't. Well, yeah. Wait, what does it make sense about this franchise? He supposedly drowned when he was a kid.
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Now he's a 300 pound, seven foot man. That's just water though. That's just the bloating from the water. Yeah, which is always incredibly strong. Exactly. Yeah. But let's see. So this just to be clear, because there is some confusion about the timeline in this franchise that has been, discussed ad nauseum. In other parts of the horror world, this movie takes place right after as a, which we'll get into, but it's established, it's set right after the events of part three, which itself was set directly after part two, which was set on Friday the 13th, which would make that and if.
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Okay, so if part three takes place over the course of a few days, we're like deep into the month, it is no longer the Friday the 13th or like Wednesday the 17th. That's fine. So if you look at this as like an extension of two, I get it. It's like a you know, it doesn't I'm never ready. The 13th.
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I never once was like, oh, must be Friday the 13th. Today I never like they they just are still going. But even the character of Rob later, who is out there hunting Jason to avenge his sister's death, who died in part two three days ago. Like three days? Yeah, yeah, it's like he's been on this, like, mission. He's devoted his life to this mission of, a couple days ago.
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He's got all these newspaper clippings and everything. Oh, yeah. They acted quicker. Yeah, yeah. Which is funny, because, like, I always thought that the I did. The concept of Rob as a character is interesting. I like the idea of looking for a sister, but once you do the math, you're like, yeah, got it, you're a little. Also, I feel like it's established at the end of two that it's not like Jason moved the bodies.
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They're all they're at the house. So like, her body's there. Her. She's okay. His sister, Sandra is the one who gets speared while she's having sex. Okay, so she's underneath her boyfriend. So she's still coming in? Yeah, she's still, like, saying I have trouble moving her because she's stuck to the bed. You guys want to know something?
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Yeah. Yeah, I've only seen part two once. Okay. I don't think I've ever seen for three. Disgusting. What is part five? Probably haven't. It. Part five is I'm not going to say like I'm not going to be like it's an underrated classic, but it is a movie that I have grown to appreciate way more of the franchise despite it having a kind of.
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But it's not colorless reputation. It's not like Jason takes Manhattan, right? No, it's no, it's a new beginning. And I want I won't say anything. I don't think I've it now I have a new beginning toy, but I think it's still. Well, I don't think Casey cares. Should we? Spoiler. Not particularly. No, don't spoil it while she's like this.
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She's not going to watch it until we do an episode on it. Okay, then we definitely can't spoil it because it is okay. It's a it's it's guaranteed most of them today. Okay. Well then we'll talk about it later okay. Quinn Tarantino has said that part five is his favorite in the franchise. And I can I can see why.
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Oh, see, you're just, like, trying to get on Quentin's good said. Yeah, it's my favorite movie. The franchise to. Love me Quentin love I mean Quentin Tarantino. Oh 2020 yes. Yeah. Oh. Taraji. Yes. No. Okay, so, Casey, this was your first time watching this movie? Yep. Wild. What did you think? Well, it was really the silence.
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No, I'm trying to definitely not be horrible. Okay, I enjoyed it. Obviously, it's ridiculous. Right? Yeah. The, the end with, little Tommy Jarvis. I don't think I've ever laughed so hard in a horror movie. Oh yeah. We're definitely going to. When we get to that I have some. What do you mean onions.
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Oh. Where are we watching the same movie. No. So it's okay. So it's funny because I love that scene. Just because I liked it when I was a kid. Oh, yeah. But, like, watching it last night, I realized that I thought this movie was better than it actually is. Oh, well, yeah, like, that was a lot. When you're young, it's fun.
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It is a lot of fun. But I just like I remember like I went into it being like, oh yeah, I fucking love part four. And I'm watching and I'm like, I don't like you. I know there's a lot of iconic stuff that happens. There's a lot of cool stuff, you know, a lot of cool kills a lot of stuff.
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Yeah. But I just like, okay. I appreciate it for what it is, I love it. I love that they introduced Tommy Jarvis and Corey Feldman's performance and all this stuff. But I was just like, okay, okay. A lot of it's really weird. Like, oh, it's very it's a very weird movie, like the, the I know that, like, kids are stupid, but.
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Oh no, man, like the weird, weird cheating on each other right in front of each other. Yeah, yeah. Like after two seconds of having, like, a really charming moment. Yeah, yeah, like. And then not understanding what it is that you've done. But then the girl. Not really saying anything about it either. Yeah. She's just like, going to go outside that whole group of teenagers in that house and it's all just like it's just I guess steward's objectifying.
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Like, everybody's like, yeah, you could have had her. Oh, do you want her? I oh, it's so weird. Why don't you go with him. What did it it it's like, well, interesting, because I felt like then, you know, we went now to let you guys, we've talked about you. I didn't. And like, in a lot of Eli Roth movies, he does he like overplays these stereotypes.
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Sure. Teenagers. Right. Sure. And, you know, besides the fact that I like Eli Roth, I mean, I think that he does a good job in doing that. I felt like they were trying to do that in this movie, but it was just so strange. Okay. Well, it's tough because it's I don't think they'd be funny. I think it's, it's a it's a combination of things because it's teenagers through the eyes of a bunch of adults who are rushing to make a fairly low budget horror movie.
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So, like, you want like the TNA ness of it all, but when they were making this movie specifically, I'm not sure if it's specifically because they intended this to be the last one, but they did want the the the teenagers to be likable. They didn't want to go into the whole, like, these are hatable characters, so they were trying to work on them as like building on their relationship and everything.
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But I think when you add in, I mean, especially like Crispin Glover, who's just bringing something very oddball to the table in this movie, though. Yeah. Me too. I think that's the thing, is that that's what makes it so memorable, because to your point, like, it is weird, but I think the intent versus the execution kind of gets a little scrambled.
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So you do end up with like they are objectifying each other, but we're supposed to like them and they're not really like when you really compare it to like, especially to some of the other movies later on in the franchise. Like, they really aren't that hatable, but it's just a little messy. It was just a big thing in the 80s.
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Horror. Anyway, was objectifying, right? Well, because even the adults in the beginning of the movie do this for the nurse, and that's more so I would say they were horrible. She's. Yes. They're not universal. He was horrible. So yeah. Yeah. But yeah, to your point, Danny, about making them likable, I was like, I felt a little sad when Crispin Glover got killed.
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Well. And then even did he do. The. Oh, yeah. Sarah was the saddest death. Yeah. Because you almost think. Because it was like, you almost think she's going to be, like the final girl, right? I thought she was going to be. Yeah. And then they do kind of set her up for that. I wonder if, because she does have a very,
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It feels like a, a, like an added kill because it's so quick and obviously listeners will get there. I think maybe they, they had to, like, contend with the fact that, like, we do have this family element. Maybe we just. Yeah. Tommy was the final girl. Keep that with Trish and Tommy. Yeah. Yeah, Tommy is the final girl, although I will, Trish deserves her flowers.
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I think she is an underrated. Oh, she's. She is a true badass in this movie. She has some, like, great survival instincts that show up. I agree, there's one moment in particular later that I was like, that is like an iconic moment, and I hope, I hope more horror fans, kind of keep that in mind. What are you talking about when Jason sneaks up behind you?
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Yes. During like the chase scene. And she just, like, knows he's there and swings the machete and almost it's in the doorway. Yeah. Like I'm like, that's some fucking hunter as bad as you, girl. Shit. That is like, not talked about enough, right? And there. Wouldn't it be fucking awesome if it turns out it was her fucking mom?
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So she she swings the machete. I fucking step two bad. There is. Speaking of, the Mrs. Jarvis, there is a deleted scene that we'll talk about later. That I really wish was still in the movie. Yeah. I don't know why they cut it. I watched the, I've watched I've. I've seen this movie. I've seen this, like, maybe like 7000 times, Crystal Lake, memories, which is like, I think it's like, 1764 hours long.
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It never ends. I don't think there's an ending. No, it's like it's five six hours long. I thought we were going to say minutes, and I was like, did this? I was like, is that how many minutes are in like, six hours? So I like it's like it's like nine hours, isn't it? Yeah. It's really long. It's fucking long.
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That's, you know, it's an impressive documentary detailing the making of every movie in the Friday the 13th franchise, including the the spin off TV series. Yeah. So pretty interesting if you haven't seen it. I remember watching then over there like a couple days and I went to watch it. I've been doing research for this because I thought it was on shudder.
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I think it was on shudder for. It was. Yeah. But it's not on there anymore. So. Yeah. But, Okay. Are you guys ready to head to camp Crystal Lake? Is that where we are? Are we still there? Oh, I think we're still. I don't think we've left for, like, four movies. No. Yes. We are in the forest of the lake.
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Yeah. We're in. So part one is, unlike Crystal Lake proper in the sense of it being exactly where Jason was killed. Like, that's the camp then part two is at a training facility for counselors. So that's where they go to kind of like, get greased up for their, for their job. Threesome is. No. Yeah. Gretchen up there, Dukes first there he was, at a just like a family cabin.
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And then that's where, like, the franchise starts. Like, kind of. We're just, like, spreading around the the lake. Yeah. Part three has, like, the biker gang, right? Yeah. And Shelly three is. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Shelly who? Spoiler alert, gave Jason his mask. Yeah, inadvertently. I like part three. Part three is interesting where it has so many good moments as a whole, like talking about characters.
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And, I don't love the characters. Oh, yeah. You know, you know which one I do like a lot that we don't talk about very much is seven. Seven is great. So was the first Friday the 13th movie I had ever seen. That's New Blood, right? As well. It's called New Blood. Yeah. Well, which part is Jason Goes to Hell?
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Because that was my 59. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was on Friday. Only not this fall. Yeah. Well, it was the final Friday that week. And then there's another Friday next week. Yeah. That makes sense. I think there's one every week. Yeah. Yeah. Let me let me check my calendar. Quick quick quick. Oh yeah. You're right every week okay.
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What is your what is your fucking calendar sound like you're jerking off a goldfish.
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We put in my computer every. Oh, yeah. Your beer can go. Says you're dead. Look, That's funny. All right, well, let's head to Crystal Lake, the Jarvis house, and whatever house is next door, where some teenagers are sharing each other and, Yo, guys, you want to go to the camp and share each other? Bro, that sounds so fun.
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Let's share each other, bro. I'll share you. I'll share you so hard. Oh, my share. You start.
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All right, let's go. Meet Jason.
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And.
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Okay. For Friday the 13th part. For the final chapter. It's very fitting that we have 13 official monster reveals. Okay. And, if you need. Yeah, if you're new to the show, a monster reveal is any time that the characters in the movie are introduced to the monster. Or if, Or when we as the audience are introduced to the monster.
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So Friday the 13th, we have 13. And we didn't plan that. It's just that's how it happened, you know what I mean? It's a perfect franchise. Danny. This was your pick for our cruel Summer triple feature. Could you go ahead and read the synopsis via Internet movie database IMDb?
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What did you say? And is that the birth universe? IMDb it? All right, let's read the synopsis from IMDb. But she said it. So like chill. Just like IMDb.
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Good. So? So I'm forgetting. Like yourselves. Collect yourself. Sorry. No fun today. Yeah. We're not here to have fun. All the kids are dead. Oh, he's. Everyone's dead. This is not the time or place.
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Okay, here is the IMDb, the plot summary after being announced. Oh, this is it. Buckle up. This is a long one. Okay, after being announced, dead and taken to a morgue, Jason Voorhees spontaneously revives, escapes from the hospital, and stalks a group of friends renting a house in the countryside near Crystal Lake. Thank God. Okay, I mean, it's not wrong.
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It's just not not wrong. It's it's like, yes, that's what she said. Yeah, it's a little as they say. There are some superfluous details in here that are a bit unnecessary. Yeah. Yeah, I say that all the time. It's a perfect. Yeah, yeah. Me too. My favorite word I read superfluous sometimes. You know what I mean? So, yeah.
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Our monster today, Jason Voorhees, has been played by multiple different actors throughout the years. And and the actor for this, Jason was actually a stunt man named Ted White, who had been in the industry for, like, a long time. But this was his only 40 years. Yeah. This was his only time playing Jason. Yeah, his name was, Ted White.
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Yeah, I said that. They said I was just reading my notes. I. Yeah. They said when they said the benefit of having him is the first time in the franchise that they had some because of his his background as a stuntman. He he wasn't there. It's not like nowadays where it's like if you cast someone as Jason, there's this, there's like a reference to the character, you know, you know, they like, want to be Jason.
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Yeah. He really brought something different. He's, he he watched the previous movies, and he really just was like, it was more just for, like, the sake of the character rather than he really did, like, basically like create a lot of the iconic, like movements and styles of Jason. I know Kane Hodder gets a lot of credit for that.
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Yeah. Which he should, because Kane Hodder, who came on like, yeah, part seven. He's kind of become like the face and name behind Jason, but Ted White, he was a, he's considered a favorite. Kane Hunter wasn't in six. No, part six had a couple actors playing Jason. They had one guy, okay. Fired him, and then they got someone else.
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And then Kane came in and Kane did seven. So new blood Jason takes Manhattan final Friday and Jason X okay. And sadly was not asked to return for Freddy versus Jason, which is crazy. What a shame. Wouldn't that have been fucking awesome like Kane Hodder and Robert England? Why didn't they? They wanted a just a different look and build for Jason.
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They wanted someone a little taller. They wanted to like, be a beast next to Freddy, which I get, but I feel like there are ways to do that. What a fucking without legs doing. Dude, I think you're nuts. I the more and more that time drags on, I get more and more disappointed with Freddy versus Jason. Like, yeah, I really like that's my experience watching the movie.
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I'm always it's like the ebb, ebbs and flows in my experience of watching the movie, I'm like, I don't think I like this movie, but I love that there's a Freddy versus Jason movie. I love it, I love great, but I love this class. Yeah, but, just like the whole I know we're not talking about this movie today, but just the whole.
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No, let's do it. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are now here to talk about the kills in Freddy versus deuce. So let's talk about the kills. Just like the whole, like, vibe of it. It's like, I don't it's a strange one. It's two. Like, clean and fancy, I guess that's maybe that's not the way to say it, but also insane.
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And, yeah, it doesn't feel like a throwback to the just like the movies in the franchise. It feels like it's trying. It feels like it's in a different genre. I don't know, not. Yeah. No, no, no, it's harder. It just feels different. Yeah. So it's really hard. If you watch it you'll probably know what we're talking about. It's just, strange.
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It's like, it's like. And, Spielberg made Indiana Jones the first the trilogy, and then he gets a new DP, for Kingdom of the Crystal skull, because Freddy versus Jason is the Janusz Kaminski of the Freddy and Jason franchise. Exactly. That's that's it. You nailed it. Okay, we can move on now. Well, I actually have some things to say about Indiana Jones.
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No. Casey loves. Yeah, just. No, no, I was looking at King Hunter's credits. All you guys were, Oh, yeah. And, so first of all, he played in a movie about Ted Bundy. Okay. Where he just played the warden. He played a movie about fart, you fat fucker. Casey loves are cats, by the way. So he decided that he wanted to climb on top of this piece of shit that was, he was in a movie about BTK where he played Dennis Rader.
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Oh, and then he was in a movie about a dean where he played a dean, which is hilarious because Ed Dean was like this tiny old little, like, frail. Okay. So big. Yeah. But among Kane Horror's other credits. I don't know if you guys know this, but he was in House two. What? Oh, that's a gorilla. Maybe.
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That's right. Did we talk about it? We didn't know that. Did we talk about that? Yes. I was like, what is this? Sound familiar? As? Okay, it is a Halloween costume though, right? Yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah. You should play because I know they go into like the Jurassic World in that movie. Oh my God, that house to be the best.
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This that you haven't seen house you or listen to our episode. Don't watch a movie. Just listening to a bangers. Yeah. Skip the movie. Just listen to the episode. Oh, it's so Danny. Yeah. Oh. If the House franchise, though, does have ties to the Friday the 13th franchise, because the first one was, from Sean Cunningham. Oh, that's right.
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Right. Okay. Yeah. That's what happens when you start self-doubting, I think. So you know what? If I'm wrong around the world's ending, let's just just.
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All right. Let's just say you're right and, make the world a better place while it's still here. It's, So. Yeah, Ted White played Jason Voorhees. And Tom Savini did the, special effects makeup for this, who he designed the original Jason boy from the swamps of Jersey.
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And he wasn't originally there. They had, they had to. Well, they didn't let go of their, original, audio, like special effects department head. What are they? Yes. Why am I blanking? I think a title, they had to let go because of some creative differences, and then they were like, oh, we should invite Tom Savini back.
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Tom Savini head kind of distance, not distance himself. It's not like he was ashamed of it, but he distanced himself from the franchise and kind of spoke about kind of regretting it because after he left part one, he went on to do The Burning, which he kind of call like just basically a Friday the 13th rip off.
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Anyways. Right? But he does come back to this one, and he said it was kind of like, you know, it felt like a nice bookend because if this was and it was at the time supposed to be the last movie, he, he kind of likened himself to Doctor Frankenstein and the thing he created, the monster in the first movie.
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It's only right that he should be the one to kill it. Also, they had originally. It was fitting also because they designed this Jason's look even before Savini was there off of his look as a boy in the first movie. So yeah, you know, because in these movies, they've kind of tweaked Jason's look quite a bit. Unfortunately, it's one of the many examples of a lack of continuity in this franchise.
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But, yeah, we're not here for continuity. We're here for kilt annuity. Kilt annuity. Yeah. Kilt. Kilton. Kilton. Yeah, that sounds like something. Oh, Chilton. Hi. My name is continuity to Duty. God. Okay, well, let's get into it. Right. Let's go. Our first reveal. Jason wakes up in the fucking morgue. Now. Okay. When Jason gets wheeled into the morgue, we meet the fuck in such a weak way to, like, describe, like a badass killer.
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Yeah. He gets wheeled into the.
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As the wheel. Yeah, the one squeaky wheel. We got it. So they like the camera. Stays on him for a minute, and, like, you see him kind of like, shuffle under the under the sheet. And then later when the nurse and Axel are, like, making out Jason's hand, like, falls down and, like, touches her leg. He did that on purpose.
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Oh, yeah. She's a pervert because he's a perv. Yeah, well, that's the whole thing, isn't it? Is that, the mom is. These movies kind of get. They're like. Basically they're punishing people who are, you know, indulging in their horniness. Right? But we all know that real villains are a hypocrites. And Jason may be killing them because they're horny, but what is he, if not also quite horny?
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Well, yeah, he's he's the one pursuing the horny people in the first place. Yeah, he just watches them and then. Yeah, once he gets his rocks off, then he fuckin, takes them out. He's one of two peeping Toms in this movie, by the way. Speaking of him being horny and getting his rocks off at one point, they say he's leaving white stuff around.
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What are you talking about? The. This is a guy who's been leaving all those all that white stuff around. Oh, yeah. Don't remember that line. No, it's at the beginning. It's in, it's in the opening. And they're talking about. This is not the 20 minute recap, right? Just to be clear, no, after that, when all the ambulances and police officers and stuff show up.
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Yeah. Okay. And I, I'm assuming that whatever terminology they're using when they say white, like they're talking about like, dead bodies, maybe with sheets over them or something, I don't know, I think it's come because I thought that Tim like, what is he talking about? And they're he's not a zombie. They say it like twice. They say, I don't know, I've seen this movie like 20,000 times.
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I've never one as long as you're always coming. Let you watch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm always like, I lay there and I'm like, oh, I missed it. What did he say? The intro just always gets me it I it only takes about ten minutes. So yeah, real early on I missed that one. When the fucking title comes on and explode.
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God that's. Yeah. It's it's also a euphemism for my experience watching this. But yeah. So Jason is a dirty little birdy, and he is. He saw them getting it on and he's like, oh, I'm an utter butter flop. My hand down here. And yeah, I feel I thought Axel was the Super Bowl of self-abuse, according to Nurse Morgan.
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But apparently it's just he's the Super Bowl of self-abuse. That would mean he's the World Cup of self-abuse. There you go. I think the World Cup is a little bigger. Yeah, I have a few other things to say about the scene, but I don't know. Please lay it out. What is he watching? Put it on paper. What's he watching?
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Yeah. Sort of aerobics, but also like. But. Yeah, explain it to me. Also a gay man. Yeah, man. He doesn't pretend how this does anything for. Oh, I don't get it. I no, I like women, but I don't like. But my question is like, was this something that people watched in the 80s? Was it curated solely for this film?
00;29;08;10 - 00;29;24;21
They were just like, hey, we just need a woman jumping around in an aerobics costume. Well, that's the thing. Like, this is the era of, like, aerobics. Yeah, yeah, but it wasn't. It was no exact. And then at one point it was just three girls, like, with their butts touching their butts.
00;29;24;23 - 00;29;50;23
But they still had their clothes on. It's not porn. It's clearly not aerobics. I it's foreign. It's faux porn. Yeah, yeah, not I mean, like, there's, like, so porn, right? Where it's like. But I feel like even softcore porn have has some nudity in it, right? Yeah. At least like the upper half. Yeah. Well, I mean, dude, I forgot to finish his video.
00;29;50;25 - 00;30;16;12
That's true. That's true. Eventually took their clothes off and touch their butts together. Yeah, this was one thing. I hope this is. I mean, I hope that there's the story to this video. It was very interesting. Yeah. The move. Yeah. The squat down in the book in for someone who's so like Axel just seems so perverted. Like, yeah, he would have the worst dude perversion.
00;30;16;12 - 00;30;37;24
He's like a fucking. You would have something a little more intense. Yeah. I mean, he like, talks about the cute dead bodies. Oh, yeah? And what did he say about eating his sandwich? He's eating a sandwich. That's like you can say like a phobia. What is up with the fucking morticians? Yeah. I think it's just to show that like they go through it and they don't care.
00;30;37;26 - 00;30;55;17
Yeah. And at this point it's kind of like, you know, it's like a, a a trope. Yeah. I feel like that, doesn't it? Also something similar to that happens in Cronos, but he's like, not the whole thing is that he's not dead or. No, maybe it's just the fact that he's not dead. I don't know, I don't remember that movie, but yeah, he,
00;30;55;19 - 00;31;13;14
How come you loved it? He said something about like, oh, she you know, she used to be cute. And then talking about, like, a girl, he's like, still is. And he said something about, like, taking his pants off or taking her pants off or doing something, and like, I was like, Jesus was just talking about the aerobics video.
00;31;13;15 - 00;31;41;19
Oh, yeah. He's like, maybe they'll take their pants off. Yeah. So Jason kills Axel. Which is a fucking great kill, by the way. Yeah. Fucking stars his neck and then twisted his head. Oh yeah. He's like you can't watch this aerobics. Don't look at it dirty boy. He's like what are you looking. Oh I do want to point out, Jason Voorhees has a thing for tea etiquette.
00;31;42;07 - 00;31;57;28
This is the second movie so far in the franchise where. So in part two, he turns the burner off when she's making tea. And then in this one, he waits for Axel to put his drink down before killing him. And it's also tea. Oh, and I just thought that's really worth pointing out that, Jason's a good boy.
00;31;58;02 - 00;32;17;04
He, he likes his tea. He likes others to enjoy their tea. Yeah, he was raised well by a good mama. And there will be no discussing or arguing about whether or not Mrs. Voorhees is or isn't a good mama. Because she is, of course. What about his fingernails? It's very well manicured. There's all those things I give you in there long.
00;32;17;04 - 00;32;39;07
I'm sorry. Black along and black and cracked and, Ouch. Yeah. So, like, you know, he's going for a vibe, and I feel like he's pulling it off rather successfully. Yeah. When he goes into the other room to get Nurse Morgan. She says, read my lips, and I feel like they actually would have said which ones?
00;32;41;01 - 00;32;59;24
I just want to see you leave that there you are punching up dialog. Yeah. This is so much I told you that you would be proud of me. You took notes. Yeah, I did, that's what it was. Oh, no it's not. Oh, there's more, there's more, but we'll get there. This is like. I feel like it's my birthday.
00;32;59;24 - 00;33;15;21
Or like I just kiss Casey's birthday. My birthday. Oh, by the way, did we ever establish it's probably worth establishing the fact, I guess we kind of did earlier, that this movie's sets is set up directly after part three. Like, literally the night. Oh, yeah. We talked about this. Big talk about that. Well, I just wanted to add a little context.
00;33;15;23 - 00;33;41;00
Just a little context. If you haven't seen part three, Jason was pretty roughed up. He was not only stabbed in the head with an ax, he was then hanged. So we're just kind of for his last go like that. He was supposed to have been dead in that one. Well, the only reason they did this was because Frank Mancuso Jr, the producer who did all these movies, at least after, I think part starting with part two.
00;33;42;03 - 00;33;59;15
He wasn't really happy with the critical success. So he's kind of a little embarrassed. And he was like, let's wrap this shit up, guys. You know? So he wanted to kind of show like, how powerful he was, like, we can get away with it because it's, well, good. And then they made plenty more. In the beginning of Jason Goes to Hell, he's blown into 100 pieces.
00;33;59;15 - 00;34;19;27
And, still, they all squiggle back together. Oh, by the way. Yeah, that's that's coming back later to we're going to create a lot of we're putting a lot of pins in these things, you know. Yeah. Like a voodoo doll or just put pins. Yeah. Tommy, remember. So. Yeah. So Nurse Morgan, is that her name? Yes. Yeah.
00;34;19;27 - 00;34;43;05
Yeah. She gets, he like choke. Does he just like choker? Oh. He shoots, she gets stabbed, stabs her with. Simple. Yeah, yeah. Scalpel. Okay. Classic. You know hospital tool. Yeah. Isn't it's nothing. It's not resourceful. All right. Let's move on to our second reveal. Well before our second, we actually have a honorable mention where we see Pamela Voorhees.
00;34;43;08 - 00;35;06;06
She's Pamela Voorhees is, grave. And, Danny, I think you mentioned off, off screen here, off our recording that this was the first time that Pamela was named Pamela. Yeah, first time we've seen it on film. Whether or not it was done in comics, I'm not even sure if they were doing comics yet, but, yeah, this is the first time in the in the movie franchise.
00;35;06;06 - 00;35;27;17
We've we've established that her name is Pamela. Okay. Interesting. Betsy Palmer, who played, Mrs. Voorhees in One and two, did not know that her name was Pamela. So it was also just news for her. I wonder where they came up with Pamela. Why didn't they color Betsy? Yeah. Betsy Voorhees. Well, speaking of name changes, Jason was supposed to be Josh, so it could have been Josh and Betsy.
00;35;27;20 - 00;35;49;18
Josh and Betsy, as opposed to. I think Jason is way cooler than Josh. Yeah, no offense to all you Josh out there. No, but Jason feels a little bit more formidable and intimidating. Yeah, yeah. Anything? Josh? Josh sounds like he works on computers.
00;35;49;20 - 00;36;08;22
That's like the the 2.0 version of the, Friday franchise. And Jason X, and he upgrades. His name's Josh. Yeah, yeah, because he's a tech guy now. Yeah. By the way, it's it is canon when he upgrades. His name is Josh.
00;36;09;10 - 00;36;31;01
But yeah, they see the, that grave because this is where we're kind of establishing some characters. You've got the teens, and then we have the Jarvis family, who I. This is a funny little thing that I found in that documentary was, Tommy Jarvis, almost wasn't cast. They thought he was too small, so he had to really fight for that part.
00;36;31;09 - 00;36;52;24
Corey feldman you mean Corey Feldman? What did I say? No more than Tommy Jarvis? Oh, man. I'm just like, he's so like, he is. He is Tommy. Separate it from the. Yeah, well, I thought his name was Gordon at first because that's fucking the dog. That's the fucking dog. But yeah, Tommy Jarvis and he was named after to honor Tom Savini.
00;36;52;27 - 00;37;15;19
Okay. If you notice, their characters are very similar. He makes, like, monster. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Makes sense. And, fun little fact. Ted white, who we've established a number of times has played. Played Jason in this movie, hated Corey Feldman. He called him a little devil, and he said he desperately wanted to kill him.
00;37;15;21 - 00;37;23;27
Oh, well, too bad at the end, you basically fucking hug him because he thought his hair looked like it was. Yeah.
00;37;23;29 - 00;37;43;21
I just thought that was so funny. He was just. But he did. Ted White loved the rest of the cast. Love the other teens. Hated Corey Feldman. Not my words. Just, and just quoting. When did Gremlins come out? The literally the same summer. So they were, okay around the same time that Friday the 13th came out, Gremlins came out.
00;37;43;21 - 00;38;13;12
So he was he was riding the wave of success. Yeah. Wow. Okay. So the summer of Feldman. Nice, as they say it was. I think we've I think that's the thing. Right. Number the summer. Let me just let me check the computer chip. Right. Yep. Summer Feldman. Okay. Well, our second official reveal is the hitchhiker lady with the, like, the banana.
00;38;13;14 - 00;38;34;01
Oh, yeah. I love that it comes out of her mouth. And she has a little bit in her mouth, a cough. Yes. So gross. It is gross. I don't know why it's so gross. It's just so gross. Bananas are mushy and, yeah, weird to begin with. And then, I mean, also like, Jason stabs her through the back of the neck.
00;38;34;03 - 00;38;56;15
Oh, yeah, it comes out her throat. Yeah. There is an extended scene that shows, and that's basically the only real difference is there's just more banana coming out. Oh, oh, so gross. Yeah. How many takes? They didn't answer the question. Or maybe I've never noticed. I've just been a little bit more hyper aware this time is, I guess it more so.
00;38;56;15 - 00;39;29;17
I'm picturing her now, like two bananas in her hand and like a banana peel on her like a whole banana going up her mouth. The director, Joseph Zito, was like, off to the side, about like, what, a banana? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Since they just putting more bananas that are about him saying no. So is this maybe I'm reading too much into this, but right before this they have that Crispin Glover and Lawrence Madison, their characters have were we've been referencing the little computer.
00;39;29;17 - 00;39;50;10
Oh, yeah. Tapping, which is when he says that Crispin Glover's character. Jimmy is it? Yeah, it's a dead fuck, which means he can't get an erection. And then in this one, too, that's what it means. It just feels bad in bed. But I thought he said something like, if you. He would know if he couldn't get an erection.
00;39;50;13 - 00;40;06;17
Yeah. Oh, and later he asks, he like, puts like the girl if he was a dead fuck. Oh yeah. That's true. So he would know. I think it just means he's not good. To Danny's point, later in the movie, he does, like, stick his hand. Ted, like, sticks his hand through his pants and, like, kind of like, flops his hand down.
00;40;06;19 - 00;40;22;26
Yeah. It's like. It's like, you know, you're boring. Oh, okay. Okay, I guess. And I think that's always thought I always read it that way too. But then I was a little more hyper aware this time. And then the next one, it shows she's holding the banana and it kind of just like goes limp. So I thought it was supposed to be like a thing.
00;40;23;02 - 00;40;40;14
Either way, bananas are phallic. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I think just in general, he's just not good. Yeah. In the in the sack though, he is good. Remember. Yeah. According to the one to him. Why do they say he's bad? Because he's thinking of a girl like that girl ghosted him. Yeah. He was calling the girl his girlfriend.
00;40;40;14 - 00;40;58;20
She, like, stopped taking his calls. And then Ted was just, like. Just was mean. Ragging on him and being like, you're a dead fuck. Danny, how many times have you seen this movie? Yeah. Come on. Oh, the first time I feel like maybe to register the nuances in this movie, I need to. I need to get a few more viewings.
00;40;58;22 - 00;41;19;06
Yeah. Fresh eyes. We need to fuck. You need this franchise. You need to stop coming at the explosion. Well, that's the thing. I keep coming. Yeah, because I never, like, reveal the information. Yeah. You have that clarity at the end. Like he. They talked about dead fuck. I'm like,
00;41;19;09 - 00;41;42;03
Oh, Lord. Oh, God. Yeah. That. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Next time, watch it with a full sack and then let's it and then see what you find out. Do you mean dope? It. Was that a way to say not to masturbate? Yeah. Watch it with a full size. Yeah, yeah. Get loaded up and, watch the whole movie, and then, you can come afterwards.
00;41;42;06 - 00;42;06;19
Get loaded. Just hold it in there. It just. Do you think he should edge the whole time? He should edge the whole time. He'll learn a lot about himself. Wait. It is Friday the 13th part for the best. Like edging foreign foreign movie. Are you available for? Just specifically for me. I mean, you don't see Jason until like, the end, so that's kind of you can come when he takes his mask off.
00;42;06;21 - 00;42;45;09
Jason is the ejaculate of this movie. He's the happy. Here's the happy ending. This movie does have a movie ending in it. Oh yeah, it comes before the actual ending. Oh god dang. All right. Anyway, All right, should we move on from Banana Lady? Sure. So, speaking of before we move on to our third reveal, because I'm not exactly sure where this falls in the timeline, but when Trish and Mrs. Voorhees are jogging around the lake, we don't see who's talking, because, like, we're, like, up in the trees as the audience, and we're, like, watching them jog along the lake.
00;42;45;17 - 00;43;07;07
And one of them says, I think you're just horny. Did the mom say that to the daughter, or did the daughter say that to the mom? Guys, I think I have to leave this episode because how did I miss that? This is like a sex related line. I'm like, oh, I'm. Yeah, here. Well, you're not here. Yeah, yeah.
00;43;07;10 - 00;43;21;17
What else did they say? Because I guess said either. Yeah. They're talking about well I don't like they're talking about she said, oh I saw I talked to dad the other day or I saw dad and like he asked about you and the mom was like, oh. And then this and that. They're saying like, should I go see him?
00;43;21;17 - 00;43;36;27
Or should we do this? And then someone must be the daughter saying that. Then he's maybe they just have a close relationship. Yeah. The daughter might be saying it to the mom because the mom left her. Left him? Yeah, but it's a it's a it's it's an interesting choice of words for the daughter to say like it's one thing.
00;43;36;27 - 00;43;58;09
If they're really close, I'll say it to my mom. Mom, you're just like, oh, yeah, my mom and I had to talk about that shit all day. Okay, so maybe they have a very healthy. Yeah, actually. Okay. Oh, speaking of, I really quickly speaking of Mrs. Jarvis. They didn't really harp on this too much, but there is a moment when the teens show up and Mrs. Jarvis is looking out the window.
00;43;58;12 - 00;44;22;07
They did director to, kind of have a slightly sinister look because they wanted to draw a parallel to Mrs. Voorhees to kind of give audiences like a little pause to be like, wait, is she always like when the teens show up and she's looking out the window and she kind of looks at him like there's like an extra beat where it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00;44;22;08 - 00;44;42;27
I mean, that's a really a stretch though, because she's really like very nice. Well, that's the thing they did. They set up a lot of not a lot. But like they set up some moments of, of mystery as though to kind of like suggesting that there are more villains. But we know it's Jason. What do we. Because in the first one we all thought it was Jason.
00;44;43;00 - 00;44;59;25
That's true. So who knows? You know, they were probably trying to subvert expectations and be like, oh, could we be doing something like this again? You know, more than one of them could have been killing people. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So yeah, because they do that with Rob. And as we've established when he leaves the morgue and stuff we see parts of him.
00;44;59;25 - 00;45;23;00
Right. But then a lot of the kills are his boots. Yeah. And then from behind. So, so maybe it's like a copycat. Well, yeah. Because even, when Rob shows up and, Tommy's trying to fix the car, right? And you see boots in the woods, that could be Jason's boots. And then. And then Rob just comes out of nowhere.
00;45;23;02 - 00;45;39;06
Or that could just be like Rob showing up, and they're like, you know, we think it's the killer. Oh, and then it's like, oh, but then Rob shows up, so you're like, oh, are those Rob's boots? Or, but Rob has the same boots as Rob's. What do we have? And a machete. Yeah. How would we have felt about that if there was a twist like that in this movie?
00;45;39;08 - 00;46;03;29
It's kind of hard to say now. Yeah. Because it's. Yeah, you know what I mean? It's hard. Could have been interesting if there was like, Jason and another killer and it was just like coincidence and maybe. Oh, and then you have Jason versus the killer in the end. Oh, yeah. Well. Oh, I thought they were teamed up. And then like, at the end, we'd get one of those, like Dutch and Dylan predator handshakes with the muscles, you know what I mean?
00;46;03;29 - 00;46;29;17
And then Jason's hand is like water log, so it just falls off. This is. Yeah. Jason can, hold his breath for a long fucking time, apparently. And again, like, at this point, he's not dead. Like he's not dead. Yeah. So they did talk about that in the, in the documentary about like what the rules are for Jason even in this point because they never use the word zombie in.
00;46;29;17 - 00;46;54;17
I mean, they do kind of I think fans kind of call him Zombie Jason after part six. Right. But, the rules are loose. There's no real like is technically mortal, but he's somehow unkillable. It's it's 80s horror movie logic, right? Right. None of no, dude. Yeah. There's so much that I want to talk about. Actually, before we get to our third reveal, don't you attack.
00;46;54;20 - 00;47;18;27
Dude, I love the scene where Tommy is watching the fucking people in the house over you watching? Oh, it's so funny. And he's peeping Tom. Oh, I know in the way he's, like, jumping and, like, smashing his his head into his pillow. He's so excited and he, like, can't contain himself. And he's jumping up and down like he's missing it because he's so excited that he's so funny.
00;47;19;03 - 00;47;46;03
And then his mom comes in and like, totally knows he's awake. Yeah, yeah. See, like looks. And she kind of gives like a like, you silly rascal watching these people. But yeah. Peeping Tom who? Corey Feldman. No. Crispin Glover, back to the future. Peeping Tom. Oh, yeah. But at this adhesive peeping Tom, it was an inspiration. Yeah, but but he's no, he's no Larry.
00;47;47;09 - 00;48;06;05
And Wolfman Talbot. Larry Talbot where, you know. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And fucking Tommy says to his sister that the teenagers are. He says some pack up a tootsies, Yeah.
00;48;06;07 - 00;48;25;25
That's like after he sees them skinny dipping, like some pack up a tootsies, Oh my God. Oh, yeah. And fun fact about that, skinny dipping scene. The boys were not supposed to go, full nude, but they were like, when in Rome. That's some shit. Yeah. Yeah, really? It was kind of fun. They said it was a group.
00;48;25;25 - 00;48;47;25
They said everyone really enjoy each other's company. Yeah, yeah. It's about the women, the directors. They're the fucking writers. And directors just wanted the women to be naked. Yeah. And Crispin Glover was like, no, I'm taking the gloves off, as it were, in my gloves. I mean, pants, do does Rob go into their house? Yes. That shit is wild, first of all.
00;48;47;25 - 00;49;10;17
Second of all, Tommy. Yeah, okay. But it is fucked up that they just bring this guy. So there it is. And then I know it was a different time. Can you imagine? Like the mom these days, she just, like, says. Wait, Tommy, what's going on? She, like, watches him go up the stairs and then that's it. Yeah. Oh, and then when they're leaving, she's like, oh yeah, you know, if you ever need a shower or whatever, come back.
00;49;10;24 - 00;49;37;06
Tommy usually leaves the door open. I know. Tricia's telling this dude. Yeah. Wait till, like, the cabin or to his bedroom. But no traces. They've established the mom establishes earlier that, Tommy leaves the door open because Gordon got out right. So then when Rob is leaving, Trish is walking him out and she's like, yeah, like you said, if you ever need to come back and take a shower or just warm up, whatever.
00;49;37;06 - 00;50;02;15
Like Tommy usually leaves the door open, like this is a complete stranger that came out of the woods. Yeah. Came out of out of the woods with weapons. He's got a handful weapons. Like. Sure, he's a trash is. But, like, don't tell this stranger that you leave your door unlocked and open. Hopefully. There is a whole, like, subculture on Grindr where it's like, I'm leaving my door open.
00;50;02;15 - 00;50;37;13
You just come in like, anonymous. Really? Sex? Oh, yeah. And it just ass up. Ready to go? What? No fucking way. What? That's insane. Right? Terrifying. Yeah. Yes. I've always thought that. I'm like, that's just like, scary. Because, like, you don't know. Oh, I, like, live in such a state of, like, constant anxiety that the idea of that sort of mystery and so on is too much from my brain, my little brain, to handle my little brain.
00;50;37;13 - 00;51;00;06
So wait a second. I'm going to get into some details here just because I'm curious. They come in the house, which is so fitting for a Friday the 13th part of it. They come in the house, right? Like so. They invite the person over, they, like leave the door unlocked and they say, just come in. Are they is the person at home literally in the bed with their ass up in the air?
00;51;00;23 - 00;51;14;21
Just like that's how they that's how I've never experienced this personally, firsthand. But this is how it's been described. Sometimes they are even blindfolded and.
00;51;14;23 - 00;51;36;24
That is so scary. Yeah. You have to be a brave, brave person. Yeah. Queer folk are quite brave. Wow. Wow. Okay, well, in our third reveal. Full on. Oh, okay. What do we go teasing out something? Yeah. I don't know if it's before the third one there. I think it is. When they're doing that, you're building off of Zach's conversation.
00;51;36;28 - 00;51;54;08
I'm like, no. Oh, yeah. The dance scene is before the reveal. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot that happens until we get to this. Yeah, that's what I thought. But this is the last thing I have to say before that. I want I want to name that dance. Okay. This one Glover's doing. What are you gonna name? I, I don't have a name for it I can think of.
00;51;54;08 - 00;52;17;22
Oh, okay. So. Yeah. So when they did that, obviously they didn't know that he was going to do this interpretive style dancing. Not only that, they used a different song in the final movie than what that was used on set. So after it, well, it didn't even work then, but then it really doesn't work in this version. So it is like what he's saying on top of insane.
00;52;17;25 - 00;52;40;02
Yeah, he does like a little something shaker. And then. Oh yeah, salt shaker. Yeah. But it's sort of like a, yeah. Jerks forward. It's kind of like if you are familiar with skating in the world. Oh yeah. It's sort of like running in place with, like, kind of like a jerkiness to it. Yeah. But he's doing it with the top half, the bottom half.
00;52;40;05 - 00;53;03;25
So it's like, I don't call that. It's like Dracula waking up from his coffee, like, just so and then going right back. But he's like, there's like a spring mechanism, like, all right component. And there's too many moving parts. We can't. It's like a yeah, it's like he's sort of like crocheting like in fast like, but hyperspeed like and like the head things into telling someone.
00;53;03;25 - 00;53;25;12
So it's like the head. Oh, stop. Yeah. But he's like smiling. He's like quite happy while he's doing it. Oh, he's very happy. He's having a great time. Oh, really? Fun fact. Crispin Glover has this reputation of being an eccentric. I had the opportunity to meet Crispin Glover back. Oh, nice. Back in the day when I was doing an interview for the show.
00;53;25;27 - 00;53;50;07
I believe it was American Gods. And I think he plays one of the gods, and I never watch the show. Okay. And I got to see the next to him. And he was a genuine gentleman. He was so sweet and, like, he seems like an in kind, like kind, like so nice. Listened. I was expecting I had an expectation where like, oh, he's gonna be kind of quirky and which is fine.
00;53;50;10 - 00;54;08;03
No, he's just like a really nice guy. And, it made me, like, happy. I was like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Good. That's awesome. Yeah. That's like, he's like somebody like you would want. You would hope that he's like that. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like, yeah, very corny. McFly's pops is one of the good ones. He ain't no Biff.
00;54;08;06 - 00;54;30;02
Yeah. No Biff. Okay, well, let's get to our third reveal. Finally. This is, this is my fault. This is Samantha in, the boat or the raft or whatever you want to call it. Yeah. Teens have now. You were you mentioned earlier that they're all sort of, What was the word you used sharing each other?
00;54;30;05 - 00;54;53;25
Yeah, they're all sharing each other. And. Sam. Samantha, she's not happy about it. She does the manipulation, though. Yes. Like I'm leaving. And then she assumes that he follows after her. Yeah. Such a teenage girl thing to do, Sam. It's like midnight. What are you talking. You go swimming. She's like, oh, can I go now? I'm going to make sure I'm naked.
00;54;53;28 - 00;55;18;04
There was actually some real life, so obviously she dies in the scene when she meets Jason. She almost. She came close to getting to possibly dying in real life because, they filmed this and a very cold evening. And basically the way it works is so obviously Jason stabs with the spear through the back. So her that was obviously fake because they get it, you know, stabbed the question.
00;55;18;06 - 00;55;37;27
Yeah. This this is because I have a question about this. I need to make sure this this detail is correct. Does he come up from underneath the boat. That's what I thought. And stab her. Oh yeah. Through the through the belly. And it comes out her back. But it's like from underneath, right? For some reason my brain is remembering it as him coming out of the water and stabbing her.
00;55;37;27 - 00;55;52;18
But now I'm I'm not. It's that's true. He does come out of the water, but I think he stabs her from underneath. Oh, yeah. Okay. And I just need to I have a question about that. And that's why I just want to make sure that that is the way I. It's it's supposed to. Okay. Sorry. I'll continue. Do you want to ask an hour?
00;55;52;18 - 00;56;10;20
You want me to? Well, why wouldn't the fucking boat sink? Well, it's it would eventually. Because later Paul comes out and he swims to the raft and he sees her, but like, oh, you know, why wouldn't it have filled up with water and like, no, I know why. What the fuck. No, I legitimately I don't know what okay.
00;56;10;22 - 00;56;28;29
It's one of those rafts where the bottom is like kind of like a tarp material. And then the outside, these are the parts that are puffed up. You see what I'm saying to the whole outside of it is like a floaty, the bottom part. So the distinction of it being a raft is important in terms of, I mean, the distinction of what kind of raft it is.
00;56;28;29 - 00;56;48;01
So like it's the outer rim is what's keeping it afloat. Yeah. Gotcha. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Doesn't have any inflation problem solved. Thank you. Casey learned something. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah. But, yeah, when, the actress was in the water, she had to essentially kind of stand in the water with her head out with the false body behind her.
00;56;48;04 - 00;57;06;22
Okay? Yeah. And she was freezing. Like they were just. It's not like they would, you know, do changes set up. And with the cameras and everything in the lighting and have her come out? She was just in the water and she was so cool. She was literally turning blue and good. Just dead. Yeah. She was really method.
00;57;06;28 - 00;57;27;25
They say difficult. Yeah. But Ted White, who plays Jason, went to the director, Joseph Zito and was like, hey, she's like, not well, like, she has to come out. There is a little bit of, a little old. Yeah, push back from an old contention. And some are not arguing, but, some bad blood. You know, to, to fit the the tone of this movie.
00;57;27;25 - 00;57;46;22
Oh, yeah. Oh, he literally told Ted he was like, hey, why don't you worry about being Jason? I'll worry about directing. And, Ted White was this. And he was like, okay, well, if she doesn't come out of the water right now, I'm walking off set. Good. You can find yourself a new Jason. So he got her out of the water, warmed her up.
00;57;46;22 - 00;58;06;04
She said she felt much better afterwards. She was able to, you know, like, kind of reset. But she did get hypothermia and she almost died. She says she was sick for a while. Damn. Yeah. So, Jason out here saving lives. That's funny, isn't it? The juxtaposition of the. Yeah. Like the real person that played him. Yeah. That's, you know, filmmaking is so.
00;58;06;11 - 00;58;27;25
I mean, now there's so many safety nets in place. Yeah. But back then it was just like, you know when you talk about like low budget, you know, you're just like trying to make your fucking day I guess. Right. And you can get so blinded I would assume by like the end product that you're not thinking about the people involved.
00;58;27;25 - 00;58;47;14
There's just like the human element. Yeah. What what's the noise? And I'm sure this is like a budget issue. I'm sure. You know, it's easy to say you could have just shot, like, in a tank in a studio. But there's nothing about this scene that requires them to be out in the water, like in real life. Like they could have shot on a stage somewhere.
00;58;47;16 - 00;59;07;00
Yeah. Because I was watching it this, this time specifically like okay well maybe there's no, it's, it's the close ups of her on the water. Pretty annoying. Fucking like I'm sorry that actress was not in good shape, but, like, her fucking face is getting stabbed. She's like.
00;59;07;03 - 00;59;18;28
It's over. It's her tongue sticking out. That was more with this with the filmmakers, just like, So heads.
00;59;19;01 - 00;59;44;18
From like, oh my God. Yeah. Okay. That's funny. Oh, and let's just stay in the water here because our fourth reveal is let's get hypothermia. Did we just get out of the water started? We have a show to do. I'm walking. Okay. Our fourth reveal is Paul, who comes out, to see Saint. He's like, he was like, I'm going to stay with this fucking twin.
00;59;44;20 - 01;00;10;10
Yeah. And then. And then right after that, he's like, I can't do this. And he's like, what changed his mind? I don't know, but he's like, I can't go through with this. And he goes out to the to the water. Just find Sam and he swims out and, you know, I almost thought it was going to be like, like, you know, we were talking about the burning earlier where it's like going up to the boat and then like, you get in there and there's like, isn't there a scene in The Burning where, like, someone's.
01;00;10;12 - 01;00;29;16
Yeah, it's like the on the raft, the Ravenwood. Right. And he comes up and he does all the stuff, but, yeah, but he just sees Sam's body, and then he swims towards the dock because he's freaking out, and then, you know, he gets it where it counts. I guess, you know? Yeah. Right in the gimbals. Right?
01;00;29;18 - 01;00;50;27
And, you know, that's what we call him since he changed his mind. What about the twin? He, you know, he had a full sack. And so it's just, I don't know, that was a little white. Was. He's leaving. Oh, he's leaving the wife there. Yeah. Yeah. The image I'm getting of just like a spear going through his full sack of.
01;00;51;00 - 01;01;21;03
Yeah. And then just spraying everywhere. Spraying blood everywhere is. Oh, I was thinking about, no. Anyways, I'm saying like, yeah, instead of you know, instead of her, but now it's just the seed of life, as they say. Yeah. The seed. That's how Jason keeps going. That's how he he's like, give me that seed. You.
01;01;21;05 - 01;01;39;20
That's disgusting. It's it's the grossest episode we've ever done. Exactly like making a note right now, and I. Yes, he's writing. It's freaking me out.
01;01;39;22 - 01;02;00;25
All right, well, let's move on from Paul for a second. He's like, dude, Jason, if stabs him where it counts, and then he picks him up. Oh my God. Ouch. All right, well, anyway, it's kind of like that feeling when you get kicked in the nuts, but instead you're stabbed in the nuts at the spear and then raised in the air.
01;02;00;28 - 01;02;21;00
Very similar. It's kind of like that. Kind of like that. Is that a death killer? Do you think they're like, kill shot? Oh, Paul is is dead. Dead like stabbed in the shin? Yeah. How would that, probably bleed a lot. Probably. Blood loss. Might take a while. Yeah. Get a boner. The last fight. Oh, God. That's what I was going to say.
01;02;21;00 - 01;02;36;20
Oh, that was the worst. Yeah, that's what my question was going to be. But he wasn't. He wasn't trying to swim because he was scared of the sentence. Like finding a dead body. He was trying to swim back to the twin because he's like, I made a mistake. Oh my right. It's like, wow, this was not worth it.
01;02;36;27 - 01;02;53;16
You can't control it. He may have still had a boner from that twin. Yeah. So there's a deleted scene where you see he's taking, Viagra. Oh, shit. We did so many deleted scenes, we could have got it from Paul. To add a little more nuance to the character. Like, maybe we see some regret, you know, with his choices.
01;02;53;16 - 01;03;22;16
And that's why he goes to see Sam. Maybe he took some Viagra, and that's why he has an erection. You know, don't cuts. All right. Go back to the word of the day. They think it's superfluous, but they're actually necessary in these instances. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, God. Okay. Number five Mrs. Jarvis meets Jason. But we don't we don't know.
01;03;23;12 - 01;03;40;25
And is this, is this, is this like another thing to be like, you know how earlier you said they kind of wanted to give her like a little bit of mystery. Is this like another bit like they didn't show Jason because you wanted it to be like, oh well, we didn't see her die, so maybe she is the killer.
01;03;40;27 - 01;03;57;23
That was the thought that I just had here. Okay. Yeah, because they do this sort of. It's a similar kill to, what's his name? The guy who opens the camp in part one. Christie something. Christie. Or he does the whole thing, or like, hey, what are you doing here? And then he gets like, it's just a shot of his face.
01;03;57;23 - 01;04;16;00
Oh, yeah. That's like, out in the rain. Yeah, yeah, I think it's a little bit of a nod to that, but it's not. But also, yeah, it still kind of maintains the it also we'll, we'll talk about it. But I'll just talk about it now there's a, extended scene that ends up being a need scene. So I can see.
01;04;16;02 - 01;04;34;28
I'm so sorry. I need to pay them off. There is a scene that they cut that actually wish they hadn't, because it's pretty cool. You can see it in that documentary, crystal like memories where Trish goes into the bathroom at her house and finds her mom's corpse in the tub, and then she's like, she's crying, and she.
01;04;35;01 - 01;05;00;05
She picks up the mom, and as she picks her up, the mom's eyes open and they're just like, pearl white. Oh, that's like, oh, it's really genuinely scary. It reminds me of the the the the monsters, the ghosts and stuff in the, in the Lucio Fulci movie The Beyond. Yeah. And then right then it jump cuts to Jason jump scaring her, and then you find out it's a dream.
01;05;00;14 - 01;05;24;07
She's in the hospital. They said they cut it because they thought it was too emotional, but I was like, whoa. Like interesting. No. Like, you know, keep it to the kids having sex with each other, please. Yes. Yeah, yeah, I, we we grieve the loss of that scene, but, dang, that would have at least would have kind of given us a little bit of, not a payoff, but kind of confirmation.
01;05;24;10 - 01;05;39;22
Yes, she is dead because we don't. Because that's it, you know, been so established. No. Yeah. Right. And even at the end, when she is in the hospital, I was thinking, is she going to ask about her fucking mom? Yeah. She didn't she just ask, is your baldheaded brother?
01;05;40;20 - 01;06;02;04
Yeah. Anyway, okay, well, our sixth reveal, involves the twins. The good one, I guess, because she's, like, mad at her sister for, like, sleeping around, and she's like, well, I'm leaving, so. And then sister's like, okay, good luck. Which, again, is another crazy character turn because we've established that they're like, really? Like they're inseparable.
01;06;02;06 - 01;06;22;17
Yeah, literally like, swimming and everything they do is in sync. Right. And then that's just sudden. Just fuck you. Terry goes to prove how much of a dead fuck Jimmy is not. Yeah. There you go. So good. We broke up their relationship. Well, she said he was incredible. Like fucking Jimmy. She's like. She's like, you're incredible. I want to do it again.
01;06;22;18 - 01;06;48;29
Don't move. So Jimmy decides to get fully dressed, go downstairs with her underwear and throw it at Teddy and be like, hey, look what I did. I'm going to go get a drink like that. Yeah, well thank you. Good character. Back to. Yeah, yeah. Sorry. The other two in, she like, goes out. It's kind of an odd thing because, like, the scene is from so far away, right?
01;06;49;02 - 01;07;07;16
You just see her get her raincoat on, and she goes to her bike, and then the camera pans over and we see the the lightning flash that lights up the side of the house, and Jason just stabs her, from the back. And it's all all in silhouette. And then I do love a silhouette moment. Oh, no, they say that.
01;07;07;23 - 01;07;28;19
That's fine, I guess. I guess to me it was just, well, I guess to to make the silhouette thing work, the camera had to be so far back. Because I was like, why is it just so far away? Yeah. But now it makes sense as I, as I talk it out and then he, like, throws her against the house and she gets pinned up against the house with the spear that's in her back.
01;07;28;21 - 01;07;50;00
That's pretty good. And it's some kind of spear, right? Yes. He's very spear. Is it the same spear? I don't know where you get spears. Because her by the lake. Jason. Oh, yeah. I've never been. I've never seen a I know a beard. They're like, oh, water. People use spears and water. Yeah, but, like, who's spearfishing at a lake?
01;07;50;12 - 01;08;06;13
I had never seen it. I've never been to the lake and seen a spear, like, even at, like a campground. And we should start when we go to cave. We were just like, find ourselves going to camps. It's like, leave a spear. Just like, just in case somebody needs it. He stays where they belong. Yeah. Get them out of the stores and on to the lakes where they belong.
01;08;06;19 - 01;08;31;28
I've never seen a spear in a store. I've heard of a smear campaign, but this is a spear. Care. Okay. Okay. Number seven is a classic. Classic reveal. This is poor Jimmy. Poor Jimmy getting screwed. And, you know, we talked about him just a moment ago, like getting dressed and coming down, and. And, Danny has mentioned the line before, and I'd like him to say it again, if you don't mind.
01;08;31;29 - 01;08;37;20
Danny. Hey, Ted. Where the hell's the corkscrew?
01;08;37;22 - 01;08;56;08
And, Jason shows him where the corkscrew is, right in his fucking hand. I love a good. What if it was there the whole time? Like, Jason just lifted his hands and it just reveals, like it's in your hand. Is. I love a good corkscrew scene in a movie. You know what I mean? What what's your top?
01;08;56;08 - 01;09;20;06
Give me your top three. Top number one. I can give you my top corkscrew scene in a movie. Oh, yeah. True romance. Oh, can you remind us what the scene is that? It is. Spoiler alert for anyone who has not seen True Romance. James Gandolfini's character is beating up Patricia Arquette, and he's like, she's, like, close to death.
01;09;20;08 - 01;09;41;16
And he. She picks up a corkscrew and she. And she slams it in his foot first, and then she attacks him with the rest of it. And, just like it goes beast mode with it does a really good corkscrew moment in the movie sideways when they open up all that wine. Yes. You know, attack those bottles of Merlot.
01;09;41;22 - 01;10;01;22
Actually, no, he won't drink them or low. That's the whole point. I'm not drinking that. He fucking Barolo. Okay, so Jimmy gets Cork screwed right in the second hand, and then, it's such a good. There's a lot of double kills in this movie. Like Jason with Axel in the beginning. He carves his neck and then twists head.
01;10;01;22 - 01;10;23;00
Yeah. So this one, he does the corkscrew in the hand, and then the fucking, meat cleaver. Yeah, meat cleaver is fucking a great across his face. And then even later, you know, Danny, you had mentioned, about parts two and three where you said Jason doesn't move the bodies. He hangs Jimmy up in the doorway with, like, fucking railroad spikes.
01;10;23;00 - 01;10;49;22
It looks like crazy. Jesus. Again, another thing that you usually find at a lake. Spears. And it's makes. Do you guys think that that would have definitely killed him, The in the head. It wasn't that deep. What? It's like having a head. No, it's not. It's nuts. No, it's not, because it's time for the how I Met Your Monster conspiracy theory.
01;10;49;25 - 01;10;58;27
Me? Oh, no. No.
01;10;58;29 - 01;11;22;22
Oh my God, can you see this is like this straight. You and me have to do this on three. Okay. One two, three. Hit it. I'm telling you that NASA is going to kill the president of the United States. Like, no, you got that kind of thing. A Secret Service agent can, like, throw himself on top. But the whole Vietnam War was fought over.
01;11;22;28 - 01;11;27;21
And then Howard Hughes lost Aristotle on.
01;11;27;23 - 01;11;48;25
Third issue this year. He did it. Oh, my God, it's not super complicated. Okay, there's not a lot to it. I'm going to try to set it up. I'm sure you guys will understand before I get there. Christian Glover's character, Jimmy, in this movie, while he is dancing with that girl, she says something about, like, I thought.
01;11;48;28 - 01;12;15;00
He says, I thought you wanted so-and-so. And she says, well, now I want you. And he says, that makes me feel like a rat. And then, oh, later in the movie, like when there's a different connection. So continue. I think Zach my house, I think I got it when I don't remember his name. The backpacker guy. Rob, Rob and, Trish go down in the basement.
01;12;15;00 - 01;12;41;09
There is a rat. And I think that this experience may have begun Jimmy's downward spiral. And he created his alter ego, Willard Willard, not to yet. Hold on a second. Oh, my God, hold on. Casey. Casey. Casey. Casey. What?
01;12;41;12 - 01;13;02;11
Hold on. Well, no. Okay, I was I was mistaken, but it's still it's still amazing. I still love it. I still agree with you. I thought Willard, I thought his character in Willard had a scar on his face. No, I look that up, too. And I like, dude, that would be fucking crazy. No. He got it all taken care of.
01;13;02;12 - 01;13;20;16
Yeah, we'll say so. It is the idea. How does he survive? Is the theory that, like, he survived the cleaver to the head? Yeah. Oh, you're just saying to me, it was like I thought rats, like, intervened. You're just saying. Oh, she just. Maybe. Yeah. They did. They licked his wounds, right? Yeah. And they stitched him up.
01;13;20;20 - 01;13;55;15
Yeah. Yeah. It's like fucking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, yes. So I am here for this. Oh my God. I wanted to see if some of the mice from Cinderella were named. It's just Gus and Jack. It just doesn't stop. Dude. Yeah, because, because Jason pulls him down. He's, like, hanging up in the doorframe, and Jason pulls him down, and that gives the rats the opportunity to, like, pull him away from all over his body, crawl over his body and stitch him up.
01;13;55;17 - 01;14;17;06
That's right. This has been, like, the most satisfying and confirmable. Yeah. Total conspiracy theory of the week that we did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he said, yeah. Like you said, he said, I said, I feel like a rat. It makes me feel like a rat. Yep. Despite all his rage, despite those dodges throughout In the Cage. That's right.
01;14;17;06 - 01;14;44;01
Yeah. He's like empathizing with the rats. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Dude. Casey, look at you. I am so proud of you. I told you, you stayed awake. So, you guys, there are officially 13 movies now in the Friday the 13th franchise. Oh, my God, we did it. Hell, yeah. We made such a. This is like a monumental discovery right now, so people don't talk about this.
01;14;44;01 - 01;15;08;11
Yeah, add it to that new, Jason universe. Willard. Oh, yeah. It belongs. Good job. Casey, and that's a good one. Yeah, I was not expecting that. Truly. Notes and theories. This is crazy. And I stayed awake. My God, you were awake. You're getting that fucking deep awake now, too. Oh, my God, you're taking d. You're getting deep.
01;15;08;11 - 01;15;30;08
It is helping. Oh my God, that's awesome. Vitamin D oh yeah. So much D oh you know so much D. Okay. Number eight, Tina gets thrown out of the window. This scene is so fucking cool. Which seems on paper doesn't seem it is. That's the thing I like when you say that doesn't seem like that. Cool. But it's like one of the great, like, moments.
01;15;30;08 - 01;15;49;29
Yeah. So it's quite cinematic. Yeah. It's also going to come back because. Yeah, it's just I'm putting a pin a well, well where's the voodoo doll? Right here. Okay. Just pop the pin into the voodoo doll. Okay. And should we just come back to the whole reveal then we'll come back later. Oh, no. No, what's he talking? I mean, there's not much too much.
01;15;49;29 - 01;16;06;29
Not much to say. She's like looking out the window, and Jason just, like, busts through the window and he busts through a lot of windows in this one. Basically what I'm going to. That's the pin up on the windows. That's okay. That's a spoiler. I just, I'm always ruining your trivia. No, it's just there's no. Oh, it's not trivia.
01;16;06;29 - 01;16;26;26
It's just a very dumb, like, takeaway that I had watching it in this. There are so much, so many windows stunts in this movie. People are. Yeah, I know, opening windows, crawling out of windows. People are jumping out of them, jumping through them, just pulling people through. They're not used to nothing. Horror movies normally. That's right. Yeah.
01;16;26;28 - 01;16;54;28
There's even a point where. What is the dog's name? What did we. Gordon. Gordon? Tommy Gordon out of nowhere in slow motion, crashes through a window, jumps through. Yes. No reason. The thing is, sets it up. There's not like he's not running away. It just still. And what's funny is like at this point in the when I was taking my notes, I was I had already made a bunch of notes like, wow, a lot of windows stunts.
01;16;55;02 - 01;17;16;29
Oh my gosh. Wow. Like now I can't. And then Gordon jumps through slow motion and I fucking died. I was like, it was so much fun. Well, yeah, because they like, there's so many like even like yeah, there is window stunts. But there's also like a lot of just shots of windows. So like, yeah, Tommy watches them get on.
01;17;17;02 - 01;17;47;04
Sam, get to the window. Yes. There's like a whole thing with Mrs. Jarvis when she's in the house looking for the kids and, like, she keeps going back to the kitchen window and, like, it's framed to like, the side where you think something's going to happen in the window, but it doesn't. And then even just like so, shots of, like, there's one shot of, like, the the teenager's house where like the, the shutter is just like flapping and it's just, is it just supposed to kind of, kind of subconsciously show how vulnerable everyone is?
01;17;47;04 - 01;18;10;18
Because in the opening of scream, Wes Craven was very adamant about Casey Becker's house having a lot of windows because he wanted her to feel like seen, obviously, but also just very vulnerable. Like there's nothing like almost like is the whole thing is like with movies like she's on display, like she is in a movie. Obviously that's not the same kind of conceit here, but maybe it is just like a vulnerability thing.
01;18;10;18 - 01;18;36;02
Also, just to be able to like fucking like you said, like it's just cool to see windows stunts. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Good call. Okay. Number nine, Teddy gets a knife to the back of his hand. Teddy, I couldn't wait for this teddy bear. Teddy. You know, you know, he keeps talking about being a dead fuck to Jimmy, and he's the one who, like, he's, like, the only one that doesn't get fucking laid.
01;18;36;05 - 01;18;44;14
Yeah, yeah. You know, why can't you just go in like this?
01;18;44;16 - 01;19;07;19
Casey opens her mouth. Oh, yeah. Let's get to the actor who plays, Ted. He. He thought it would be funny to be method and to to actually smoke weed during this, during the filming of this movie. So he he pulled a quint from job. He annoyed the fuck out of everybody, I bet. Yeah, well, he said he was like, I'm a very paranoid, stoned person.
01;19;07;19 - 01;19;23;28
And he's like, it was the worst mistake. He's like, I was just so just in my head the whole time. And, can you imagine that? Just like like being fucking stoned and having to be upset to a movie and take direction, and I would just be like, I would just keep apologizing no matter what. I'd be like, sorry.
01;19;24;01 - 01;19;43;28
But yeah, he's like watching that movie and he calls that lady a pig more. Yeah, I was like, Jesus, more weird porn, more weird. But they found and it's. Yeah, why was that? Why was the porn from like the 50s, 40s? That was like a silent. That was like drugs, like the 20s. I was like, doctor. You think so?
01;19;44;01 - 01;20;07;22
Yeah. It's like silent film. Well, why was that cooler than whatever porn Axel was trying to watch in the beginning? Then I want to know there's some historical value and, I mean, she was naked. Yeah. That's true. She was. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of boobies. My only example to criticize. But the only issue that I had with that is it's they really extend this whole sequence of him, like watching the porn.
01;20;07;22 - 01;20;33;13
And I see like maybe in their defense, they needed to give him something to do, but like, they cut back to him, just like sitting there and just laughing. Yeah. With his mouth so that there's. Yeah. And nothing there's no development. Like it's just him. It almost would have been funny if they kind of played it where like once everyone is gone, he actually, like considered like jerking off to it just to kind of like, I don't know, to kind of show how lame he is.
01;20;33;13 - 01;20;49;29
Yeah. Well, yeah. No, I mean, it's just that is why, though, because they were showing everybody else out doing all these other things. And he's the one that was like, oh yeah, I'm going to fuck tonight. Yeah. And then maybe that said maybe by himself, but he's just sitting there making fun of this old porn when he's not getting any anyway.
01;20;49;29 - 01;21;10;19
Right, right. That's true. Yeah. He's the the immature one. Right. He thinks he's got game but. Well because he like gets up and walks towards the screen. Right. Does he think this the people are real. Maybe he doesn't understand movies. No I know it was. That's what I was like. He's like oh I'm like the real is over you dummy.
01;21;10;22 - 01;21;29;29
Whatever. And like I love how like in movies like this, I they, I can't pinpoint any certain movie, but I know I've seen it before where like, the light is shining on them and they're like looking past it to be like, who's there? Instead of just, like, stepping to the side. But yeah, and look at the light getting out of the way for the light.
01;21;29;29 - 01;21;50;12
They always just like they can't move in. The light is in there. It's But yeah. So what if he did and like Jason just turned the thing. So it's always on his. That's a scary movie. But right there. Yeah. It just keeps following you. Yeah. But Jason's actually behind him and stabs him in the back of the head with a knife.
01;21;50;12 - 01;22;14;25
And then he kind of just, like, rips down the projector screen. That's great. That's a good. That's pretty cool. Okay, let's move on to number ten, which is, I think, one of the most iconic kills in the whole franchise in middle. This is Doug in the shower. We're just sexual, Doug. Bisexual. Sexual Doug. He's got themselves.
01;22;14;25 - 01;22;37;21
And so, this person's. Yeah. Doug doesn't really know he's with Sarah in the shower, but then he's also talking. He thinks it's like Paul, I think coming in and he's talking about dropping the soap and they make a cute couple. Or Doug rather. He's got some stuff to figure out in life, you know, and that's very I mean, he's young and that's he's, to be honest, that's only 20 years.
01;22;37;24 - 01;22;56;08
Have a lot of stuff with maybe, you know, in the shower. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, there's nothing wrong with it. He just he's like, you know, he doesn't really know where he's, he's at just yet. And it's is to be expected their own. These are only like 20 somethings maybe younger. So it's okay. He's got time. Well he he would have had time if he didn't get his head fucking crushed.
01;22;56;10 - 01;23;17;02
Yeah. Yeah he did get, you know head in the shower. But not the type that he wanted. It would've been fun though if they didn't play with that because we were talking about how everyone's sharing each other and, Who is it? Who is he? Who is he with? Sarah's. Sarah. He's with Sam. Yeah. No, but it would have been funny because she is kind of presented as the the wholesome one.
01;23;17;02 - 01;23;33;03
Yeah. And, when she leaves to find out that, like, what if he really was bisexual and he was expecting Paul to kind of like, to in the show, she's just, like, romanticizing, because. What did she say? She's like, I think I'm in love. Yeah. He says, I think you're in something. And she said, I think I'm in love.
01;23;33;03 - 01;23;58;23
Yeah. He says, I think I'm in heaven. Oh, yeah. And he's like, yeah. And she's like, nothing up. Take care of my. She's like, I think I'm in love. And he here is there. And he's like, He's like, turned out the she's guy man. Okay, I think I'm in heaven. I think I'm in hell. Okay.
01;23;59;20 - 01;24;22;11
But yeah, he gets his head fucking crushed and, like, smashed into the tile and, you know, okay. So, Danny, do you agree with me that this is one of the most iconic kills in the franchise? Definitely. Okay. We talk a lot about, like, nostalgia, the the it's not nostalgia factor that sometimes we, you know, we think things are better than they are because of whatever.
01;24;22;13 - 01;24;43;02
I remember the picture of Doug in the shower that was on the back of the VHS cover. And so, like, I don't know if that is just like, iconic to me because it's a core memory of like, see that scene on the rise to why it's iconic? Because it was chosen to sort of represent the movie in a place where, like, that's one of the few places you could.
01;24;43;02 - 01;25;02;28
It's not like we had the internet and you would like search Friday the 13th part for you only had a few, kind of, images to really source. And that was at the video store. Yeah. That's true. The fact that I think that I think that lends to it. Yeah, it's really cool, really intense. Also worth noting, since this is about revealing the monster on this podcast.
01;25;02;28 - 01;25;23;22
It's one of the first close up shots of Jason. You know we we mentioned that he's in the shadows. Not now. Now he's in the shower. Yeah. This is the shadows. This is the first time. Correct me if I'm wrong. That like I mean mine is still like the recap in the beginning. This is the first time we see his mask in the movie.
01;25;23;25 - 01;25;43;22
And it's got that great, great, great, great, great effect with the, Well, actually I have if you're on YouTube, you get a little you get a little benefit of this because this is Jason, I have the little figurine and I'm putting them up to the camera. Yeah. And, stop. There we go. Jason three, but also carries over to for where he's got the scar and his mask.
01;25;43;22 - 01;26;06;21
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is a really cool. Just like that. That cut there in his mask. Okay. Yeah. Sorry, Doug. Moving on. The let's move on to Sarah, who's our 11th reveal. You kind of feel like she's going to be, like, the final girl. So, you know, a lot of it is, you know, based around the whole sex thing, right?
01;26;06;21 - 01;26;25;25
So I'm sure she would have been the final girl if she wouldn't have, she had sex in the shower. Which. Guys? Come on, can we be real about shower sex sucks. It sucks. It's awful. It's a great idea. It's like it. It's never worth. It's in the moment. It feels like it's going to be. Oh, let's do this.
01;26;26;00 - 01;26;48;04
But it's like, yeah, you know what doesn't? It's not a great lubricant, right? Oh, it's not just like a streak. It's like, Yeah. It's also right. And you have to be standing and and usually like fucking, you know, the shower water's warm, but usually the walls, the walls of the shower are cold and it's like, fuck, not for college.
01;26;48;04 - 01;27;10;01
A friend of mine was having sex with, with someone in the shower and his his either his arm, his foot went right through the glass. Think it's. They're trying to see the shattered shower. Yeah. Oh, my God. Not a good idea. You know, make out, touch each other, do whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't have sex in the shower.
01;27;10;03 - 01;27;30;27
Yeah. Shower is great for foreplay. Foreplay? Yeah, exactly. A little rub and tug and then, hop over to the bedroom. Right. So, yeah. Sarah, if she wouldn't have, indulged in that, she maybe she would still be alive. But you know what? She got an ax to the belly. And did you, like, throw the ax through the door?
01;27;31;28 - 01;27;47;07
Oh, yeah. It's like okay. It's pretty intense. Again, this kind of goes back to where we were talking about maybe she is they were considering her to be a little bit more prominent in the final act because it is a little bit like, oh shit, she's dead. It's like it's just they did that with everything they did.
01;27;47;07 - 01;28;07;06
That was all like, that's true. Maybe we're all very much. And so they cut away like every single character who dies quickly. But they were like, but what if they were in this fight? Well, you know, you had mentioned at the beginning, you had mentioned at the beginning of them, like wanting to make the characters, like, likable, and you wanted to really, like, feel for them.
01;28;07;06 - 01;28;22;11
And, you know, we said we kind of felt bad when Jimmy got killed. And the same with her, where it's like, oh, we thought she was going to make it. And then just like, like an act, it's like a testament to the characters. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The fact that we think they would have made good final characters.
01;28;22;14 - 01;28;46;07
Yeah. Right. This is a perfect movie. It's. Fun say. Oh by the way, I should point out we're meeting this monster and we've talked about the Friday the 13th game before. Oh yeah. Zach and I are forever scarred from it. From all the, the the children who teased us. So mean. They're so mean. Get out of here, you fucking idiots.
01;28;46;07 - 01;29;16;07
Anyway, yeah. Just whatever. Run around, leave you alone and done anything. But boomers shouldn't be playing video games. Yeah. That time I was Jason and couldn't kill anybody. Everyone got away. I was like, what the fuck, dude? No. Jason. So there were a few, Jason's. Now that's, Lying. Yeah. Danny's working. There were at least one Jason's that you could unlock in the game.
01;29;16;07 - 01;29;29;22
Okay. And at least the one that I remember is part four. Okay, so it's kind of like a big deal. You had to get to a certain point, and then you unlocked it, and it was kind of okay. It took a while to get there. Yeah. I never wanted to never be able to get there. I never would have made it.
01;29;29;25 - 01;29;49;14
It's actually easy, but, dude, I wish you could still play that game. I wanted to, like, play it as, like a there needs to be like a story mode. So they mean they did introduce a single player version of it, but it's not a story. It's kind of just like, it's kind of so dumb. It's okay.
01;29;49;15 - 01;30;17;01
You play it anymore, it's gone. Gone? Why? Because of, like, how they just the. It's either right there was a hole for years. There's been a big court battle over the rights to certain things. And when they finally there was some settlement or whatever, you know, some final answer in the court case and they, they lost the rights and they can't you can't I mean, that's why we don't get this, why we're just now starting to get some, some movement with the franchise because there is a big dispute.
01;30;17;04 - 01;30;42;05
I think it was between just. And I could be wrong. Maybe it's like a whole estate thing, but it was Sean Cunningham, the director and producer, and then the writer. Victor Miller. And there were just some dispute. That's why when Jace, the Jason franchise, the Friday the 13th franchise ended up going to Paramount. Right. Is Paramount first to go to I mean it was paramount for this one and it was paramount.
01;30;42;05 - 01;31;01;27
And then it went to, I want to say New Line with it. Right. That's why there's no Friday the 13th in the title, because legally, they couldn't. So it's that's why they're all Jason. It's Jason X Jason goes to hell. Freddy versus Jason. Oh yeah. Okay. So, Hilarious. Yeah. So eight would have been the last one.
01;31;01;27 - 01;31;23;19
Jason takes Manhattan. It was Friday the 13th party. Interesting. That similar thing with like, the new, like Chucky, like the dominant. He owns the rights to everything but the title child's Play. Okay. So yeah. And they also. Yeah, this is like a little tangent for Chucky, but for all you Child's Play fans, Don Mancini was in an interview.
01;31;23;19 - 01;31;43;22
I cannot remember where I saw it, but he said, if you're ever writing, if you're a screenwriter and you're writing a monster or a character and you want to maintain the rights, be as descriptive as possible. When you're describing them so that it's you designed the character, so you take the likeness. That's a yeah, good point. That's why in Child's Play what's his name, buddy?
01;31;43;24 - 01;32;02;28
Who's buddy? There's buddy the doll. Is that. Oh in the Jack one. Oh. Do they end up calling him Chucky? Maybe they do. Oh, I don't know. In the remake, I don't know, maybe so. Okay. Charles. Oh, you haven't seen it? No, it's not bad, actually. If you watch it like it's its own thing. It's very much like if you liked Megan.
01;32;03;01 - 01;32;22;21
I hated me. I will, and remember there being, more surprisingly, gorier than I thought it would be. You know, to be honest, as we talk about it, I think I started it and I don't think I finished it. Okay. Did you know, I think the second Megan movie is an action movie? It's not her. Really? Yeah. I think she's like an assassin.
01;32;22;21 - 01;32;40;20
Yeah. Wow. They've actually, Jason Blum just came out and was kind of talking about it. It's been sort of a box office failure, and he's been like, yeah, we have to kind of reassess our how we're kind of putting movies out there, especially theatrically. Wow. And a big part of it was because of, Megan to Megan 2.0.
01;32;40;26 - 01;33;11;28
Okay. Oh, it's like 1.0. Josh, Josh Josh Josh. Oh, that's. So she had Jason. Yeah, yeah. Jason versus Freddy versus Jason. Jason version or Josh versus Megan. Who the fuck? Josh. You know, Danny, I, I happen to look back at my notes here, and you were talking about the windows, and you're talking about the dog jumping out of the window and one of my notes says, Gordon said, fuck this shit.
01;33;12;01 - 01;33;34;07
I'm at it. He's like, I'm out of here. Okay. Before we get to our 12th reveal, we do have an honorable mention with Tommy Jarvis, where he is going through Rob's duffel bag and like a fucking little nosy little prick. And, he learns about Jason through these, like, newspaper clippings that Rob has had for the past months.
01;33;34;09 - 01;33;56;11
A couple days, it's it's very, And so he learns a little bit about Jason. So that's kind of like Tommy meeting Jason, but not really just on paper. I wish it just was an extended scene where like. And then there's like a people magazine with like, Jason on the cover. It's just another screen. Yeah. Or like, his voice is like movies, like it's the first Friday the 13th movie.
01;33;56;12 - 01;34;29;29
Yeah. But also is a scary movie. It also makes me think of like, Loaded Weapon was nowhere. It's like a Amelia's is is reading the magazines and those little postcard bro cards keep falling down. Just get. And they're like up to his fucking waist. But so if I funny. Okay. Number 12 is so funny. Number 12 is when Rob and Trish meet Jason in the basement, we're going to be we're going to I have I literally wrote unpopular opinion.
01;34;29;29 - 01;34;55;13
We're going to have a difference of opinion. Yeah. Oh, Zach, do you think it's hilarious I think just screaming keep going. Yes we know Rob. See I think it's I think it's weirdly disturbing. It's almost like he's. So he had this sort of like hero mentality going into the story where he's like, I'm just going to find Jason.
01;34;55;16 - 01;35;19;14
Sister. Wait, he's killing me, you know? Totally. I'm not saying it's not funny. You're like, it doesn't it's not like a good source of comedy. But there is this weird, like, it kind of like the first time I saw it, I like, just, like, fucked with my head a little bit, okay? Because it's like, it's. It's like shock, and it's like he's displaying shock and like a very like, I don't know, on the nose way.
01;35;19;14 - 01;35;36;27
Yeah. Something about it just, like, freaks me out. I don't know why. Like, it's like we're like, oh shit, I'm dying. Like, this is like happening. And yeah, he just kind of resigns himself to what, does he die by a trial or something like. Yeah, he just picks up, like some kind of. Yeah. It might be like a gardening tool.
01;35;36;27 - 01;36;04;09
Like a traveler's. Oh my God, dude, I was. It is funny though. It's like the Austin Powers, right? I like something in Austin Powers, honestly, because he's killing Bay. He's killing my. Oh, my dude does not. But, Well, who does Josh know? But it's just 2.0 work for.
01;36;04;11 - 01;36;25;01
Oh, God. And. Yeah. So like Trish like, runs away and then she goes back because she's like, she's since I mean, she's like, no, I don't think it's an idea. I don't think it's an idiotic move. I think that part of the final girl that's like, yeah, yeah. She's like, wait, I have a machete. I'm like, yeah, what am I doing right now?
01;36;25;03 - 01;36;47;04
So I didn't mind that. I didn't actually think that was dumb, considering. Also considering I really like Trish, I think yeah, I support her choices. Yeah. Because is it and then it's this weird like Jason, like he rips through the stairs, right? And grabs her leg and then, yeah, she, she takes off running and. Yeah, she goes up the stairs and this is where she jumps out the window, right?
01;36;47;11 - 01;37;07;08
Like a, like, good old Texas chainsaw. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Good. Good call, good call. And then she goes back to the house and she's just like, walking around like fucking. Jason still isn't out there. Yeah. She's probably in shock. That's true. But she does have that cool moment where she like, she can be in shock, but Rob can't be in shock.
01;37;08;00 - 01;37;22;24
No. So I'm, I'm she's saying if if she were yelling, I would be laughing about. Yes. He was only in shock. But that doesn't change the fact that it was hilarious. What if he's just like, what the fuck?
01;37;22;26 - 01;37;30;27
Dude, like, if I can Jimmy guess corkscrew. He's like, he's screwing me.
01;37;31;00 - 01;37;55;09
Teddy's like, But that is Teddy and fucking Doug are like, But good for him. He's crushing me. Oh my God. Okay, number three is also, I have a chronic. This is our final reveal. Our 13th reveal. It's also a very iconic moment, for little Tommy Jarvis, who will go on for the next three movies to fight Jason.
01;37;55;27 - 01;38;18;18
Oh. Does he? Yes. Part five. He's like an adult. And then. Oh, yeah. Always played by different. Always a different actor. Yeah. They were able to get, Corey Feldman back to the opening scene of part five and then kind of show that there was a time jump. But, Corey Feldman said he wished he could have stayed, but he actually had to go.
01;38;18;19 - 01;38;42;09
He they were filming The Goonies. Okay. Which good for him? Good choice. I mean, it would have been cool to see him back as Tommy Jarvis, but then we wouldn't have The Goonies. And, you know, you got to picture it already made for Jason movies. Yeah. Yeah. So this is Tommy meeting Jason as Jason bust through the window and just, like, bear hugs him.
01;38;43;17 - 01;39;02;29
Pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah. He first like cool. He does the window thing and then it's even cooler because he Trish helps him out. And then Jason just busted the door. So it's like that is a cool sequence of just yeah. It's so badass. It is a true iconic that is like iconic Jason behavior. Totally totally ijb. He throws something.
01;39;03;01 - 01;39;24;07
What do you throw? He throws something at the wall. A shoo shoo, shoo. You like something like untitled? I think it's like a hammer or something. Okay. Right. Oh, yeah. Because. Because she gets him in the neck. Because Trish stabs him with the hammer. Yeah, with the the claw part of the hammer? Yeah. Oh, and then Trish, you know classic.
01;39;24;07 - 01;39;47;25
We're talking about Wes Craven and scream. She Stu mockers Jason with the t my notes literally say Trish Stu mockers Jason with the TV. Trish do I'm literally alt c I'll be. Oh we gotta I gotta see here. Oh my. Yeah. Trish. Democracy. Daddy look at the TV. That's hilarious. Oh I have a period at the end of,
01;39;47;27 - 01;40;11;19
So not the same everybody. We're different. Sorry. Not the same. We're so different. We're different. Oh. Tricia jumps out of another fucking window. Just wanted to mention that. Oh, and then that's when we have the great Trish syncing Jason behind her. Oh, wait, so she doesn't jump out the window. Oh, no. She does it twice. Just like no, she does the chainsaw.
01;40;11;19 - 01;40;35;11
I'm not even exaggerating. So we tried I wrote Trish jumps to the window I wrote everyone keeps jumping through the window. Jason grabs Tommy through the window. Trish jumps out another goddamn window. It just made sure to lock eyes. Yeah, they just keep I mean, they're there, I get it. It's like you need an access point and you can't.
01;40;35;11 - 01;40;57;07
Sometimes there's just not enough doors. Yeah. So then she comes back around the front of the house, and then Jason walks in. Oh, yeah. Because, like, the door's busted at that point. Yeah. And then she swings around and. Yeah. Then she gets him in the hand. Right? Yes. Oh, yeah. Meanwhile, fucking Tommy is upstairs giving himself a fucking.
01;40;57;13 - 01;41;22;03
I wish they gave him, like, a montage song. Like I'm getting ready for the Jason fight. No, it should have been. We're gonna do it here. Oh, yes. Yeah. I need a haircut. Cover. He's. He was doing that, and I was like, you have to try to, like, relate to Jesus. Yeah, well, earlier in the movie, when you first meet Tommy, his mom says that he needs a haircut and set it up.
01;41;22;03 - 01;41;46;16
And he ended up. Yes, but. So this was, you know, at the beginning of this episode, I said that it's iconic and there was like, things that I thought I loved about this movie that I'm kind of like, okay, what's going on? You love it again? Well, it's like I wanted there to be, like, some kind of, some more of a connection between Tommy and Jason for him to make this leap, right?
01;41;46;20 - 01;42;04;16
To be like, what is he doing? Yeah. There was, like, he just. I mean, I don't know now that I'm thinking about it. Like, he saw the newspaper. He saw him. He, like, likes to make masks, but he doesn't know anything about, like, the allure of Jason. Yeah. No, he learned it with the. So how would he know?
01;42;04;18 - 01;42;19;00
Well, yeah, he saw the picture. How would he know? There's still no connection between the two. A thousand words. There's no connection between the two. Him. How would he know that? Like Jason would relate to that? Well, if you look. Yeah, if you if you look close at the newspaper, you know, like under the picture, there's always like, a little like, don't you?
01;42;19;00 - 01;42;40;06
What's happening? It's like Jason Voorhees was killed after his mother's revenge. And that is the whole. Yeah, I mean, it's the equivalent of the 20 minute recap that we got at the start of the movie. Okay. Are you sure that it didn't say, like, Jason was really sensitive about his haircut? Is that what picture? Yeah. Yeah, I just don't know.
01;42;40;06 - 01;43;00;07
Like, how he know Jason. It doesn't make any sense. There's no way to butt in. Okay. Yeah. So we don't understand that I will. I like to believe that Tommy got. Was able to put some pieces together. Okay? I mean, he's smart, but it doesn't matter, because what does that have to do? It? That's what I. What does it have to do with anything?
01;43;00;15 - 01;43;18;11
What if I are you? That. But I didn't cut my hair. What if I said, Jason? It's okay, I understand you, but I think it's a throwback to part two, where we realize Jason is pretty susceptible to Jason's not that. Oh, no, I get it. Oh, okay. I like because, like. Yeah, like in part two. I'm sorry.
01;43;18;11 - 01;43;36;00
I didn't mean to interrupt you, but, like, she puts on the sweater and it's like the mom. Right? But, yeah, he doesn't know all that. Also, I don't know, Jason might not be smart, but isn't he smart enough to realize that Tommy Jarvis is not him? No, I don't think he's. I really don't think he's. I think he's an.
01;43;36;03 - 01;43;57;25
It's enough to confuse him. Yeah. Because earlier it's like his mom. It's like somebody else. But it's like, oh, is that me? To me, it's like. It's like looking in a mirror. It's like looking in a window. So funny. Oh my God. Good call. Okay. Yeah. It's still it's still fun. No, it is fun. It is fun. It's very funny.
01;43;57;27 - 01;44;19;15
And then I was laughing really hard when he came downstairs, so I was like, I can't believe this is really happening. I can't believe they actually did this. I like, can you imagine him being like up there while his sister is fighting fucking this psychopath? And he's just like, cutting his hair and shaving and I think it's, you know, they should have done was we should have established that he just had a similar hockey mask.
01;44;19;15 - 01;44;39;01
And then he comes down and like puts the match. Yes. Yeah. And then like sees it. Yeah. And Jason's like what. Yeah. Like just like throws him off just enough or even like a mask. But also even just like a bald something bald with a mask. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it has, like, it has is all these, these really deformed.
01;44;39;02 - 01;45;03;08
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Anyways, waterlogged heads, Tommy, you and your waterlogged heads. So that's our 13th and final reveal. We do have an honorable mention. To round this out is when Trish knocks off Jason's mask and we see him, and when Zach says knocks it off, she's not saying that he. She tried to replicate it. Yeah.
01;45;03;10 - 01;45;29;14
She's like, hold on, Tommy, you're really with tons. Oh, Tommy, you're on to something. Hold on. Let me fabricate this mask. It's a mess. It's good. Gordon runs in wearing a mask. Jason's like, oh, so it's not to. I have four legs. It's stupid. I didn't know it was a dog. I didn't know I was a dog.
01;45;31;24 - 01;45;54;03
They finally get, Jason in the head, and he, like, slides down the fucking machete, which is pretty cool. Oh, yeah, that was cool. And you can see, like, part of his face. Like, moving as. It's, like, going down. Like his face is, like, twitching. It's pretty cool. So, and then at the end of this movie, we find out that, Tommy has fucking gone off the deep end after he killed.
01;45;54;05 - 01;46;15;12
I think that's what it's supposed to imply, right? Yes. Okay, so with these at the end, they wanted to carry on with Tommy being the villain. He was going to be the killer in the next one. I personally don't subscribe to the idea of Tommy. Should have been evil. I just feel like he killed Jason. He's the hero.
01;46;15;12 - 01;46;37;17
Like, let him just be the hero. Which, obviously, they they end up kind of going with spoiler alert for the next couple movies. Yeah, but he's gotten a taste of the push that they wanted to go, which is what's really interesting at this point in the franchise. They had said that they wanted it to be a contagion of horror, going from one person to the next.
01;46;37;17 - 01;46;58;11
So basically, they wanted the franchise, the rest of the franchise after four to be, basically what we got in the final Friday just goes to hell. Yeah. Which I thought was interesting, that that movie kind of feels so strange as a standalone Jason movie, because the lore, really kind of just it explores some pretty strange corners.
01;46;58;11 - 01;47;19;14
Right? But it actually is kind of calling back to what the franchise was going to be. This early on. Interesting. Yeah. You know, is so cool about that. And I don't think people would do that anymore. But like, one Friday, Jason Goes to Hell takes like a huge swing, and it's like a totally different kind of movie.
01;47;19;14 - 01;47;45;29
But it also has Jason. Right? It makes me think of something like scream, where we're on movie seven, and it's always like, just somebody from Sidney's past. Yeah, right. And it's like the same thing. The same thing. I want. I personally, I know, people don't agree with me. I personally want the scream franchise to take like a huge swing like that and give us like a different kind of movie.
01;47;46;01 - 01;48;05;20
I'm with you because it's like, you know, like, I want it to go a little supernatural. I know that's a stretch, but like, unless this you get eight Jason movies and then the ninth one, they just take like this 180 and do like a completely different thing. And it's just, well, it's funny. Funny you say that because there's been some theories about series theories based off nothing.
01;48;05;20 - 01;48;22;08
It's not like there's been some, script leaks or anything, but, the fact that they've been a case of. Do you mind if I. I know you don't like spoilers, even if they're not like, seriously, I don't give a fuck about scream. Okay. Oh, yeah. That's right. Okay. Oh, perfect. Okay. This is the one time I will be okay with this.
01;48;22;10 - 01;48;51;28
Otherwise, we'll talk later. Potential spoilers for scream. Yeah, potential. But really, just based off of people making big guesses. Is that possibly scream seven? We'll deal with, artificial intelligence because they have been casting all these actors from the previous movies who died. So it's like, well, how are they going to come back? And someone was like, well, what if they use AI to, like, recreate the voices in the images to fuck with Sidney?
01;48;51;28 - 01;49;16;11
So it's like it feels like, in essence, like that ghosts or zombie like characters are coming back from the dead. So it's like they're way to, like, recognize franchises that take the supernatural twist later on without actually committing to it. I'm hoping it's that and then we'll see. I think it's a clever way to do it. Yeah, but then at the end, it's just going to be somebody from Sidney's past.
01;49;16;11 - 01;49;38;26
It's still grounded, like, what the fuck? Like I don't yeah, I get that. But it's just that's why I like I just, I love the scream movies, but I honestly at the end I don't care who it is anymore. Lately I enjoy them, but hearing less. Yeah. I thought they actually did a pretty decent job with scream five.
01;49;38;27 - 01;50;01;15
Oh, I agree because it feels a little more removed. It feels more about the they're less honoring her than they are honoring the franchise. Yeah, I totally like scream five. I love scream five. It's really good. But yeah, with six I was like, okay, you know, I mean, yeah, that's why I haven't even cared to rewatch it again.
01;50;01;15 - 01;50;31;21
Like, I only saw it once in the theater and that was it. And I'm like, okay. So yeah. Anyways, this isn't about fucking scream. It's about Josh 2.0. Yeah. And now that we have wrapped up in the 13th and Megan three, now that we have wrapped up this movie, it is time to choose our favorite reveals in Friday the 13th, the final chapter.
01;50;31;24 - 01;50;47;04
All on their. I don't believe it. It was. That's how they you. They're under the goddamn foreign.
01;50;47;07 - 01;51;05;02
All right, so I'm going to do a speed round recap of our 13 reveals in Friday the 13th. The final Chapter. And I do have some alternate titles for them as we go along, so bear in mind when you choose your favorite reveal, you will be required to use the alternate title, so. Oh, it's a required requirement.
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Yeah. That's new. Okay. Well, well, hey, things getting tight around here, That's right. Okay. Number one, the morgue, aka Axel, deserved worse. Number two is our hitchhiker, aka Banana Split. Number number three is Sam and the boat, aka boats and hos. Because Sam's kind of a ho, right? She has a reputation as she. As she mentions.
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What's wrong with that? Nothing but just boats. And I'm a ho. Number four. Paul at the dock, H. AKA my penis itches.
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Aka aka Paul at the cock dock. Thank you. AKA his sex is on spider. Oh, my God, that's funny. That's really good. AKA Polly Appleseed.
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That's the one you wrote down? Yeah. Number five, Mrs. Jarvis meets Jason, aka Gordon.
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Right. It's the fucking dog. We never see him. Number six, Terry gets mounted, aka Terry Spear campaign. Thank you. Danny. Good. And your, Danny, I'm going to let you say this one. Number seven is Jimmy gets caught, aka. Hey, Ted, where the hell's the corkscrew? Thank you, thank you. Number eight, Tina gets thrown out the window.
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AKA. Is that the wind beneath my wings? Oh, no. That's the station wagon.
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That's like the name of an emo rock band. It's literally like. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Number nine again. Number nine. Teddy gets a knife to the head, aka slut.
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What? So this one needs a little explanation, right? So because it's like slit, right. Well, no, it's. I'm going deeper than that, Danny. Oh. So he's watching the movie. The movie's over. The movie ends. It's the end of the porno movie. Yes, we got that. If you watch the Swedish apparently over. And apparently the Swedish version of finding Dory at the end when it says the end in Swedish, it says slut.
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And Ted is a bit of a slut. He kind of wants to, like, fuck everybody. She's there. Nobody wants to be a slut. But he's, Yeah, yeah, it is so dead. So, So number nine, Teddy gets a knife to the head, aka funny. Ten. Doug meets Jason in the shower, aka singing in the pain. AKA singing in the pain.
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11 Sarah gets axed AKA you could have just got plan B. It got so dark. Sorry, sorry. No. It's good. Oh, like, 12 is Rob and Trish meet Jason, AKA he's killing me. And 13 is Tommy meets Jason through the window. AKA Tommy through the looking smash. AKA from the window to the wall. So, so till the blood dripped down my balls.
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All these bodies fall. So. Yeah. So with that being said, oh. And then, Kick kick. Yeah. Like.
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Nice. Oh. We were ending that song. That's. I think we have to, Okay. Danny, this is your pick for our triple feature. So you go ahead and get to choose your favorite reveal verse, Tommy, through the looking smash or till the from the window to the one from the window to the room. The window of the wall to the pleasure of the models.
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All these bodies fall. All these bodies fall. You said there was only one right answer. And that's the one that we Tommy meetings at Tommy Jarvis being supportive. Give me a thumbs up that.
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I don't know okay. That's a good one. Go ahead. Go off. Yeah. Go just a little bit. Okay okay. Yeah. I mean, with a just really good psychotic. Yeah. That is good. Casey, what's your favorite reveal? So normally, I really like a lot of blood and guts and gore and all that stuff, but honestly, my favorite one in this was that the wind beneath my wings.
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No, it's the station wagon. Okay. Do you like that? Yeah, because it just, was just like. Whoa. It was the only one. It was the only kill it. Afterwards, I was like, okay, that, like, everything about it was cool. Yeah, yeah. Shot was cool. Slow motion was cool. I love it when she hit it and all of those fucking windows exploded, and then she fell to the ground.
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Yeah. No, it's it's definitely cool. And it's it's like the least creative kill, but it's so it's still so good. Never seen anything. Right. Yeah. Oh, and I'm not I'm not knocking it. I'm just saying like. Yeah. It's funny how like how good. It's not the first person who's going through a window in this movie up to that point.
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Yeah, yeah. And for it to still have an effect is. Yeah. Well, you know, they're that old saying like, keep it simple, stupid. Like, sometimes you overthink things and you have to like if you just go back to being like really simple, it can be really effective. Jason was had this elaborate kill and he was like, why did my mom always keep it simple, Steve?
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And it's just.
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God yeah, man, I don't know. Tommy. Meeting Jason is very iconic, so I kind of want to go with that. But I also love Doug getting his head crushed in the shower, aka singing the Pain that does have, a lot of, significance for your memory of this. It does. But in terms of, like, the best reveal is the first time you see Jason's face, it helps you if you're looking for a reason to lean one way or another.
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Well, I did it, like, kind of like, going back to your point, Danny was, like, so iconic and, like, so meaningful to the franchise because it sets up this thing between Tommy and Jason. I got to go with Tommy through the looking smash, aka from the window to the wall. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah. Take that, Paul or Doug Hood.
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That dude has so many of, like, the same name. Sarah. Sam. Paul. Tom. Ted. Yeah. It's very they're very similar. Now it's time for a segment that we like to call the real monster.
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Run, run, run as fast as you can. Catch me. I'm the gingerbread man. You're a monster. I'm not the monster. Here you are. You and the rest of that fairy tale crash poisoning my perfect world. Now tell me, where are the others? Eat me. You're. I've got five. I have five real monsters for Friday the 13th part for, the exploding title card at the beginning.
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AKA Danny's cum Q you guys don't like it when I cut? It's just, like, ridiculous, right? Like you have the same effect on everyone. It's not like explosions. Like it's not an action movie, so it just seems out of place. But, well, they started that in part two because in the first one, it hits the guy.
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It's like it's breaking through the screen, which is so funny. Yeah. And then the second one, they're like, we need to top it. And I'm like, well, what if it explodes? Like sure. Oh, okay. All right. I don't remember that. But it's pretty silly. Number two is just Axel. The more guy for being just a fucking disgusting human being.
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I've got Paul for turning off the good music to play whatever the fuck he played. Oh, yeah, it was like a rock song. And, like, they're at a party and he's like, hold on, let's change this. And it's like some, like, crooner. So, you know, like singing something real slow and it had to be. It was weird.
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Right? Then I've got just the whole party for being. We've talked about this, but it's just very objectifying. Like everybody's cheering each other. And then my last real monster is Tommy, for just being a nosy little bitch and going through Rob's duffle bag. So, Casey, what do you got? Mine is just the 80s in general.
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What a time. Yeah. Everything was so ugly. Like nothing was pleasing to the eye. Yeah. The decor, I mean, the cabin was fine. It was cabin, but like, the decor in the house that they were staying at is atrocious. Yeah. So ugly. Their clothes so ugly. At one point, I don't remember which guy it is. He's wearing gray sweat shorts, which is fine.
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Okay. And they're short again. You want a guy in which. No, I love bracelet. Sure. I love accentuates the, the penis. Yes, I love sweat. Sure. Like, you know what it was called? Danny. So he's wasn't supposed. And they look like proper shorts. Does that make sense to you? They're like puffy. They're popping out everywhere. Okay, okay, so not only that, but then he's just wearing a navy blue polo shirt.
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Oh, this is Paul. I think this is Paul. Like, is it weird? I love the fashion of this group. This is so bad. I totally understand why it's so bad. But that's all. Okay. Okay, Danny, I also have five. One. The first real monster is mushy bananas, which we've kind of because I love mushy bananas ad nauseum.
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Dude, I like it, but I love it when it's just, like, still slightly green. You make banana bread. Oh, oh. And it's like both are on like spectrums that I do not want to follow you to. I like to right in the middle. It's like not too ripe where it just also when it gets really ripe, gets too sweet, in my opinion.
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Okay. Then I have the twins for their the, Terry and, what's her name for the shotgunning technique. Oh, my God, so messy. Yeah, they do the shotgun, it just goes. Oh over themselves. Yeah, yeah. There's alcohol because they're just like, you have to leave the party. Yeah, that pissed me off, too. They're just, like, pouring it above their head.
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They don't like that. They're so aggressive. Yeah, yeah. I have Tina. Oh, I've, you know, Tina for suddenly being so horrible to her sister. Yeah, I know we've we've kind of established it's because you just got fucking dicked. Yeah. But, Yeah. Not cool. Sarah. Or running away when she sees Doug in the shower, because as far as she knows, he just had an accident, right?
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Like he just slipped out of the shower. Yeah. And, like, help. She just, like, screams, like, horrible. You were. And you're in love with him? Apparently. Yeah. I and then finally, I have everyone who broke a window. I would really like to see a supercut of all the key window scenes in this movie. I'm sure there is one.
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Yeah, yeah. Okay. Awesome. All right, well, now it's time for our last segment. Would you survive Friday the 13th? The final chapter. And here we go. No, I'd be fucking. You'd be fine. Yeah, yeah, Cassie's got her blank. No ifs, ands or buts about it. I. Sorry, you know, depending on there would be, there would be some.
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But I know, I know, maybe some aren't. Like who who? Well, I don't know. I'm trying to try to. I'm trying to tie that back into, like, you're gonna. Yeah. It's like trying to tie it back into, like Jimmy sharing everybody. Oh, Jimmy. Jimmy that dance. Oh, yeah. I would, I liked, I would say Paul and Doug.
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Okay. I love a, I love like a backwards hat. And he pulls a hat backwards. It was like the kisser. Yeah. Yeah. Well does like, Doug was like, wasn't he like a little teen heartthrob like at that in that he was in a show right before this. I forget the name of it though. But yeah, he was a bit of a heartthrob.
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Okay. So Casey be dead. She'd be fucking. I just. Yeah, I don't know how. I mean, I might be fucking, I don't know, I definitely, I definitely be Jewish. We all be fucked. I definitely be drinking I might be, I might be smoking, I be smoking, I'd be fucking, I'd be drinking. But you know I wouldn't be doing, I wouldn't be dying because I, I think I would survive because I would like to think that Jason and I could be friends.
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You'd shave your head? Yeah. Jason, it's like your mother. It's. I'm you. You're me. I love Pamela, too. I love your mother. As she was my mother. She's like, that's my mom's name. We we are. We just finding out about this right now? Oh, let me take it to the grave. Was this a comics? Oh, I'm actually not sure.
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The comics may not be okay. I'm. I'm. I'm still talking to my publisher. Can't you just type on your computer? That is just comes out of nowhere and figure that out? I can, but it won't. Me and Casey, you'd be dead. Danny would be bald and surviving. Yeah, I have a new best friend. All. And thriving both.
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Thank. Okay. Well, you guys, that is Friday the 13th, the final chapter. And that is also our cruel summer triple feature. Summer's over. That's cruel. That is cruel. But that's not that summer's over is that we get to announce a new, brand new triple feature. Son of a bitch. Yep. And this triple feature idea actually comes from one of our longtime listeners, Zane.
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It's killer comics. Good comics. Yeah. Zane reached out. We were just talking about comics. It's so fitting. Yeah, absolutely. And, Zane reached out and suggested this triple feature. So, we're fucking doing it. Which means, listeners, if you have any ideas for triple features or movies to cover, reach out to us and let us know. So we're doing killer comics.
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My pick for killer comics is Fucking Blade. Damn right it is fucking blade, man. I haven't seen that movie since it came out. Really? I think I've just seen it once. The second vampire movie we're doing this summer with a character named Frost in it. Oh, interesting. Okay, so I'm excited for that. Casey, you're up next. What is your pick for killer comics?
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I am doing Uzumaki Uzumaki. Okay, I don't know what this is. Maybe you will find out. Okay, but I don't think any of us have seen it. I'm excited. I like when we do movies like this where I would. I'm. I'm familiar with the. Yeah, I'm familiar with the source material, but I've never seen it. Yeah. Okay.
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So. Oh, interesting. So it is based on a comic just getting the other, All right, penny, you're rounding us out. You're the man I have. I'm doing tales from the crypt, demon night. Oh, my God, I fucking grew up with Demon night. I love Demon night so much. It it's been decades since I've seen it, but I fucking love it.
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This is our first time we've been doing this for four years now. For a little over four years. First time meeting the Crypt Keeper. Yeah. Which is kind of nuts when you think about it. Okay. Well guys this is a great lineup Zane thank you for this recommendation. I'm super excited to do killer comics guys if you are not following our Patreon check us out.
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I am on Instagram at Wolf mother. Casey. Nice. Danny. I fucking nailed it last week, so you better fucking. You did. Fantastic. You better get it. You can find me on various socials like Instagram and Blue Sky at my name. It's, da. He's like, what's my fucking name? I remembered the name of my penis, but I can't remember my name.
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I mean, yes, no, not my penis. Me who am I? I'm more than my penis. You can find me on various socials at my name. Danny Salem. That's Danny. Sally, Jamie. That's two names. Like the candy melt in your butt, not in your hands. Nice mountain, Jason's, but. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I usually we switch them, you swap out our Eminem.
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But Eminem's. Oh. Okay. You have one. And then he gets you the other one and you swap them back and yeah, I see, and you can find me on social media at Zeke when sick. That's it for cool Summer. And thank you all for listening. Now go meet some monsters.