The ICE CREAM MAN delivers in part 2 of our "Hunger Pains" triple feature, with special guest Brooke Surgener! The musician and cosplayer chats with us about the creativity of adult film titles, the legend of the Pied Piper, the inner workings of cheap motels, why Clint Howard's ice cream was always melted, and much more.
The ICE CREAM MAN delivers in part 2 of our "Hunger Pains" triple feature, with special guest Brooke Surgener! The musician and cosplayer chats with us about the creativity of adult film titles, the legend of the Pied Piper, the inner workings of cheap motels, why Clint Howard's ice cream was always melted, and much more.
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Unknown
Welcome to How I Met Your Monster. The show where we discuss the introductions to your favorite movie, Monsters. If you're not already subscribed to the show, find us on Apple Podcasts. Spotify, or anywhere you find your podcasts. And today we have a very special guest. Casey, would you like to introduce our guest today? Oh.
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Unknown
Oh. Uh, we got a special, special, special guest today. She's my best friend. She's a musician, a cosplayer and funny woman extraordinaire. It's Brooke Surge. Her. Oh, stop. I'm either going to say staring or something like. Brooke Ster-kinekor. Brooke. Sir. Gender. Hi, guys. Thanks for having me back. So, Brooke, you have. Thanks for coming. Yeah, absolutely. You joined us for our Texas Chainsaw Massacre episode, our Leatherface episode, which was a lot of fun.
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Unknown
So, Brooke, do you have anything going on right now, project wise? Like you're a musician? I'm a sad magician, which would have been a little different. Justin Different musicians. Are you just. No, I'm not at all. No, no. Oh, man. I think you should play. You should do something to make my statements. I magician slash musician. Yeah. Surgeon at the time.
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Unknown
Like you can really get people with. You know, sometimes you have a problem when people aren't paying attention to you while you're playing. Yeah. If you pulled a rabbit out of a hat, get them story. They're going to say, you can disappear. You could make it disappear. That that could be the new thing. I don't know anybody who does that.
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Unknown
Are you under any doubt right now to learn magic for next match? I couldn't even in school, I couldn't even do that like, thing where you fold like, the cards and you'd make it all like. Oh, I see the bridge. Yeah, that was so mad. I couldn't do that now. So I have a new song coming out last year, put an album, and I know the last time we talked about this, I hadn't really done a lot of podcasts and I was like, very nervous talking about my music.
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Unknown
I don't know why. And so I put out an album last year called Moon was, but I'm putting out a new single called Burnout. Really excited about it and just about probably what you guys are doing every single day, bringing stuff out, really excited about it. So that's yeah, yeah, I'm excited about that. But other than that, I'm just chilling with you guys tonight Too soon, especially maybe will inspire a new song and I don't know what it would be.
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Unknown
Ice Ice cream talismans. Ice cream, melted. Okay, Since we're talking about ice cream, I know we haven't really introduced the movie yet, but why was all the ice cream in this movie melted? Because it. It's because these crazy, weird. They kept saying, like, I want a hard pack. And like, I didn't know. I assumed that if it was a hard push, Pops.
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Unknown
Yeah. And then they'd give it to them and it would just be like dripping. So it made you more uncomfortable than regular hard ice cream would have, right? Yeah. Especially when you was like handing it to the policeman at one point. And I was just like, I'm like, Why would you take that? Yeah. All over his hands. Listen, I have so many questions.
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Unknown
So it was like minute I had a question and I'm waiting for you to point it out. Yeah, we'll get. We'll get that. I think, first of all, go through embrace the fact that, like the rules of this movie's universe, just accept and allow things like that as normal, like melted ice cream out of your hand. Like that's just normal in this world.
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Unknown
So you just have to move on. Yeah. I think if we tried to rationalize 90% of this movie while we're going to try this, it'd be like a five part episode that we will try because I've done it a lot. So this is thought so this is this is part two. This is our second feature in our Hunger Pains triple feature.
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Unknown
KC This was your pick. What movie are we watching? What movie did we watch? What do we read? Where we're talking about ice cream? Man, I feel responsible for this, though. I feel like you should. I should. People shouldn't listen to me when I say no, no, no, no. This right. First of all, this whole way, this is your you recommended this because she said a while ago, if I'm ever on the show again, I want to cover this movie.
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Unknown
Yeah, No, I didn't say that. You should cover it. No, you said I want to. You said I want to be a guest. Yeah, but what I would say is I absolutely love this movie. I mean, I did. It was terrible, but I loved it. Or there were some things I didn't like so we are talking about ice cream in 1995, directed by Norman Epstein.
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Unknown
And for poor Gregory, Poor Gregory. Oh. After being released from the Wishing Well Sanatorium, all he wants to do is make children happy. So Gregory reopens the old ice cream factory and all the unappreciative brats are reprocessed into flavor of the day where they know. The other thing that I was pleased about. But like later he did grind up that one layer.
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Unknown
No, he didn't grinder up. He put her in a vat of acid. She just disintegrated. Yeah, because then he pulled out her fucking diaphragm. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that was. I was like, Why? Because I thought he, like, ground her up into whatever to, like, dust. And I was like, why did that not get destroyed? He just disintegrated her in acid, Huh?
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Unknown
Okay. But yeah, that's a strong diaphragm. I don't know. Yeah. That acid melts human flesh and bone. Not diaphragm, but that lady condom? Nope. I mean, that's good. Contraception sperms not getting through. No, they're telling point. I can withstand acid sperm. Have any of you seen this? Is this everybody's first time watching? I had only seen the first half of it when Joe Bob showed it during one of his episodes and I just.
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Unknown
Okay. I mean, but yeah, I actually did not remember the movie until it started. And then I was like, Oh, this movie. And I'm just like, Yeah, yeah. It's yeah, I had it so interesting. I'm sure I had rented it as a kid. So basically it was the first time watch for me. Okay. Brook No, I just I was your first time, just like that's also was Clint Howard.
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Unknown
It was Ron Howard's brother. And all I could think of is him in Adam Sandler movies being like, I'm not what you call a handsome man. Is that Waterboy? Has he been in other Adam Sandler movies or just that one? I just think Adam Sandler was like, reoccurring character. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. He's at first he seems like someone who would have.
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Unknown
Yeah, he seemed like the same character in this movie. Honestly, I feel like he's got his own show. He's like, I know what I got, you know? But yeah, but I didn't understand. Obviously, there's a dozen things that I didn't understand, but one of the main things that I thought was very weird is that Clint Howard's voice, his regular voice, yeah.
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Unknown
Is more like a creepy mental ice cream man than whatever he was trying to do in this movie. Totally. I was like, Why did you keep it? He didn't. He, like, deepened it and tried to make it last year when his regular voice, I don't want to look like I'm sorry because the famous catchphrase that he he has like a highly like weird like yeah yeah that would yeah because it sounds like he's trying that so I don't know.
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Unknown
Yeah. He's like, I'm going to be clean. He's perfect for the role though. Like, Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was. And Clint Howard always seems very game to play a character who who doesn't really need to make a lot of sense. Yeah, I think his commitment kind of helps. So yeah, I can't think of anyone else who could have done this role in this particular movie, right.
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Unknown
That I give him. I definitely give him credit. So I will excite you guys here for a minute this time. See here it's. Hey, hey, hey, Clint. Howard, This whole time, Clint Howard and the director of this movie, Norman Epstein, are currently trying to get ice cream and to into production. What? Mm hmm. Which is just titled Ice Cream Man again.
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Unknown
Which is strange enough people didn't watch the first one, so it doesn't matter. It'll be like Halloween 2018. Yeah. Yeah. Ice cream in 2018. But 2018. Oddly enough, Norman Epstein is not his real name. Right. Okay, so he was born Paul Norman. Okay, It's Mogul. They hold on. He was born Paul Norman and he was a he was a porn director.
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Unknown
Oh, and this was his first movie outside of porn. Oh, this wasn't porn. And anyway, he got some good cream shot. You said, against cream. So was like his first movie. Then his first movie has to have some connection to the part where he's like, I just can't do it. I got to do something with cream in the title.
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Unknown
Oh, but his name is Paul Norman, his alias is Norman Epstein. Well, he didn't do very well. It's all over the Internet. Yeah, right. We know the first thing we talk about when we talk about him. It's his background in porn. Let's see what it what porn films he directed. What's his name? Paul Norman. Mm hmm. We always case.
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Unknown
He's our controlling figure computer programmer. And I like the sound effects. He made a series called BI and beyond. Like by bisexual pornography. Yeah. Oh, interesting. Bad girl, five Bad girl, six bedroom. But I'm beyond. That's in the Bad boys universe. Bicoastal. The Big switch your big tease by sex and Bone. Yes. And very like on the nose titles.
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Unknown
Yeah. Boneheads could be a alternate title to bio-dome. He made Edward Pina's hands. Oh oh, my gosh. I feel like I've seen that, though, so. Yeah. Never seen it feel like you just stay still. Those no broke that was the little spur made that we okay that we don't see that that was so uncomfortable that you always get a 4th of July 4th of July lost a little sperm a little survey in Jurassic Park And what I want you to know about that is that it doesn't have anything to do with dinosaurs.
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Unknown
It's all everyman like before in in the Jurassic period. Okay. So understand, guys, unless you want to see Ron Jeremy now. No, it's. Oh, my God. I feel like I was curious about Ron. Jeremy. Jeremy. Jeremy. Yeah, like, like on VH one when, like, he was, like, I don't know, blowing up again after. Yeah, Yeah. And then we saw it and.
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Unknown
Yeah, and you got. You got to see him. You got Wait, is Ron Jeremy Edward penis and no address. No, he was in Jurassic Park is, is is so yeah it was hard to see answer So Danny Danny I want to go back to your question for a second. Yeah. Does Edward penis hands is it just all his fingers are penises?
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Unknown
Yeah, and used to be. How do they show that on screen? Well, Google it. Think they fake or do they like kind of real penis? The picture. The picture. Oh, my God. Okay, Since the picture for the covered penis hands, you do, Edward Penis hands. Part two Because the cover for part two is funnier. I mean, look at my phone.
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Unknown
Oh, it's just one giant dick on each of them. I'm gonna go the incognito window so it does your work? Oh, yeah, Many reasons. Um, which one should I look at? Oh, my gosh. And since part two, it just looks like he's in the cure. Yes. Yeah, but, I mean, that's kind of what their hands look like. Anyway, that's a fair point.
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Unknown
Oh, my gosh. Oh, there's a picture of his penis work. I'm so sorry that we're doing this one. We have our She does not know and it's an Oh, like in the picture. I got me crying. Do you see that one where he's walking and spaghetti with his penis. Yes. He's is looking at his penis hands crossing and it looks like he's crying.
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Unknown
Yeah. And it says my ass itches and then he's just like, Oh, somebody made a meme out of that. Oh, I did a spaghetti one. Oh, dried. Oh, wow. This is what they need to show kids in school when they're trying to be like, don't have sex. So you die like this. And this is what happens that you get to see.
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Unknown
This is, you know what else is funny? The head of his penis I thought was a meatball. All right. Anyways, anyway. Yeah. Okay. Oh, my God. Paul. Norman! Norman! That scene. Yeah. Paul and Paul. Norman made Edward Pearson's every move. So since we're talking about the creative team behind Ice Cream in the cream team, this is just going to keep going like this.
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Unknown
Oh, this whole time it was written by David Dobkin, who ended up directing Wedding Crashers. Oh, my God, He wrote Edward Penis. And I'm just kidding. Oh, no. He directed Shanghai Knights and Wedding Crashers. The guy who they got who wrote this movie. It's nothing compared to Edward Petersen's, but okay, so our monster today is Gregory tutor to tutor, tutor and played by Clint Howard.
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Unknown
So should we get into ice cream? Man Are you guys ready to meet the titular ice cream? The Gregory tutor had my dinner. I'm ready for dessert, And I hear that ice cream truck coming around the corner. Yeah. Oh, do you guys have ice cream trucks that come around your neighborhood? Not around here. We have this man. You know I'm talking about this Could even bring you, like, fucking lasagna.
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Unknown
Oh, yeah? Yeah. He didn't jump every time. Yeah. Nope, nope. Yeah. We have an ice cream truck that goes. I think it's like a van. Do you? I don't even know if ice cream trucks go around the city, because that's probably why we don't hear them around here. I wonder why they, though. Isn't that a great place? This think of like where they would stop you just drive until you see kids and then you stop and get your hands up.
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Unknown
Yeah, that's to sell them ice cream, Jack. Yeah. Yeah. I'll have to look it up because I have not heard an ice cream truck in quite a while. And frankly, that worries me. Yeah, Yeah. I mean, you guys have heard what goes around my town just motorcycles and dirt bikes. The ice cream truck avoids your town all the time, but no, I hear one every once in a while in the neighborhood.
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Unknown
I have one question for you, just a follow up of that one. Zach, have you ever seen an ice cream man gunned down by two men in a speeding car by the mafia? What? Yeah. Yeah. So this is interesting. Not interesting necessarily, but I had this thought that you guys know who Richard Kuklinski was. No, he was a big he.
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Unknown
The Iceman. Iceman? Yes, I know him as an ice cream man. No, ice man. He was part of the mob or the mafia or something like that. He killed like hundreds of people for them. Okay. And he befriended another guy. Didn't they make a movie about that? Yes. With the John Cusack? No. The Iceman Cometh. Are you thinking of frozen ground?
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Unknown
Yeah, I froze. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking of. You know, it was like. Know, I remember who it is. Anyway, he killed a guy, another mob guy who drove an ice cream truck. Really? Which that all of that like. Well, I don't know what the motivation was for him, but I also don't know the motivation for this killing.
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Unknown
I feel like there's a whole story that they could have unpacked a little bit in this movie. Do you think that was like, Yeah, that's what this is like where they just killing a guy randomly? Or is it because, yeah, that guy, was he killing kids? And so somebody. Yeah, no, I didn't even think of it. If you see if you see later in the movie there's like that newspaper article and it says that he was gunned down in a drug related drive by maybe he sold drugs.
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Unknown
So he was selling drugs. So he was like big worm in Friday. Okay, So this so it's like this like sort of like his own contained crime syndicate. Yeah. So and it just keeps getting the crimes just are getting worse. So like, we went from drug dealing to murdering. So maybe before that there was like petty burglary and then maybe an ice cream man to what's worse than killing people, eating them.
00;19;07;13 - 00;19;28;01
Unknown
I guess he doesn't eat them. Well, we talked about this in our innocence episode. Necrophilia is pretty up there. So it's all about necrophilia. Well, this just got dark. Well, that would make sense since the director used to direct porn. It's kind of an easy fit to sort of. I know all of his. All of those elements. Mm hmm.
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Unknown
It's going to be writes itself basically. Okay, let's meet the ice cream in. Let's do it. And that's how we meet Gregory Tudor right out of the gate on this movie. When the in a flashback scene, we know that because it's in black and white. Yes, yes, yes. That's the that's the the go to waiter. So they don't have to explain it to us.
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Unknown
But as we just mentioned, the ice cream man is gunned down in a drug related drive by. And Gregory is their only concern about his. Pushpa Yeah, what does he say? He says, Where's who's going to give me my ice cream? No word yet. Who probably would feel the same way. Yeah. So he's just are we to believe that he's just scarred this, just this moment just kind of imprinted on him.
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Unknown
It's like what do you think it was this moment that, like, just set him off or sort of the fact that he remembers the ice cream king so highly? Yeah. Makes me think that maybe or maybe, you know, maybe he was fucked up and maybe the ice cream man, the original one was sort of like, I don't know, like his safe haven.
00;21;00;29 - 00;21;25;21
Unknown
Maybe he looked forward to going out to get ice cream to escape his dark life. And then once that was gone, it was like, I'm out. Like, Hmm. So is it still You should hear of this? Yeah. Beautiful. You know? So he was scarred from the incident, and then his parents put him into, like, therapy or went to a doctor, and that's when they started abusing him.
00;21;25;23 - 00;21;51;24
Unknown
Yeah. So the great thing about this movie is that they even in the nineties, they were acknowledging that people needed therapy. Yeah, well, to that point. Okay, I'm glad you said that because I was wondering because the doctor of that spoiler alert. But the doctor of that hospital has like his own issues. Yeah. So I was wondering, you know, because we see Gregory, like clearly scarred from the incident like, right away.
00;21;51;26 - 00;22;16;00
Unknown
But then is the doctor sort of reinforcing his patients like their issues in episodes or is he making them like evil because he does the whole like, needle to the head? I don't know. So many questions. Great question. Danny, Thanks for your question. Thank you. When we get to that, I don't think I feel like it felt like a cult in some way.
00;22;16;03 - 00;22;45;26
Unknown
Oh, it's a lot to say about that. Yeah. Okay. But then we jump forward to present day and we see Gregory as an adult and he's driving the ice cream truck, but now he is the ice cream print. It's not the ice cream King is the ice cream print. And right off the bat, we see inside his truck and you already see that he's fucked up because there is roaches in the fucking ice cream.
00;22;45;26 - 00;23;13;10
Unknown
There's mice in the ice cream place. Yeah. You. And it's just the fucking roaches. And when you talk about another monster, I know that Gregory is really the only monster in this movie. And we'll get to our real monster section. But can we talk about the monster that is tuna? Wait, you think you think tuna is a monster and a kid?
00;23;13;10 - 00;23;43;19
Unknown
And if that's true. Yeah, Well, I want to go one step further. Say he's a kid with a pillow under his shirt. And that is exactly my point, is that he just had a pillow under his shirt backs up shift. Sometimes he didn't moving the pillow philosophy. He did it. He lost. And I had a thought, though, like think about when people do, like, cast these things and you're like, chosen as like that kid number three.
00;23;43;19 - 00;24;15;01
Unknown
Like, that sucks, right? Yeah. It seemed like they picked some really attractive looking little kids, and that sounds so weird. I'm so sorry that I slid that audio. I hate that audio. You know, we know what you mean. We know what you mean. Yeah. You kids. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know, they just were like, Let's just put him in a fat suit so we don't have to class because he lost it at the end.
00;24;15;03 - 00;24;38;00
Unknown
So there's no point in that. Yeah, because I want you to address that at all. I mean, yeah, it goes against the filmmakers in general, like don't even put it. And it's the same thing with that. That bums me about the Monster Squad, which is one of my favorite movies that the nickname I mean, mind you, it's meant to be they're teasing Horace's character, calling it, and then he kind of his head of moment.
00;24;38;00 - 00;24;57;02
Unknown
His moment at the end. Yeah, but yeah, like irrelevant. And then it just keeps adding more issues that are so avoidable. Like, why did they cast him? Why did they not go all in on the effects? Why even give him the name? Just give him a you want to tease him, give him a nickname that's appropriate to the actor that you cast?
00;24;57;04 - 00;25;23;26
Unknown
Well, trust me, the one kid's brother felt just the same as you. He hated. Oh, my God. Well, let's see. This is his last name is also Cast Era. So it's like tuna casserole. Tuna casserole. All right. Was that his actual name? Was that Greek? That was his nickname was to make Tuna. No, he has a name. You know, The brother was like, why would they name their kid Tuna?
00;25;23;28 - 00;25;47;11
Unknown
And this is funny because you. Yeah, the Bumblebee do know. And I should have written it down. But he did have a first name, a real first name. But yeah. So I was thinking like, okay, maybe there's a part in that's going to happen in the movie where like the ice cream man does something and he has to be a fat kid for some reason.
00;25;47;13 - 00;26;08;23
Unknown
But it wasn't until the very end that he just had his slim figure in his leg. No, no pillow under there. And then the kid, like, points to it and he's like, he's like, Hey, nice, good job there. And he's like, Yeah, thanks. I miss so many of these little details. What's so sorry? His name on here is Just Tuna, but in the movie they say something else, right?
00;26;08;25 - 00;26;35;00
Unknown
Yeah, but he was like a monster in a way. I just wrote down Tuna as a freak. Like with the ice cream. He drops the creamsicle in the sand. Oh, excuse us, please. I dropped a cake pop on a truck up floor. No, no. And then you did throw it away. End of story. End of story. You probably know the way you here.
00;26;35;02 - 00;27;04;19
Unknown
And then you paint your soul with your decisions that you made afterwards. It was like three years ago. I'm fine. You want to himself this a monster, But his. His fat suit costume is. Yeah, a monster. Yes, yes, yes. And then we had Macaulay Culkin from My Girl. Yeah. Yeah, right. No, I wasn't going to. I was like, he's so Macaulay Culkin in this movie.
00;27;04;19 - 00;27;27;13
Unknown
It's crazy. And it makes me wonder if they did that on purpose as, like, probably getting thing because he's also on one of the posters. Yeah. This is what Macaulay Culkin was in that movie. Yeah. This is a year after he was in like Richie Rich and I. Oh, really? Page Master may have been like, right before. This is 95.
00;27;27;15 - 00;27;49;21
Unknown
Oh, my God. I know. Same look, though. Same. And yeah, it made me wonder. I was like, I wonder if they're just like, if we could trick a few people thinking like Culkin in good shape. No, I think he was spotted in trick. Anyone. And they were not in good shape because of me. I mean that in the best way possible.
00;27;49;23 - 00;28;10;11
Unknown
It was a lot of fun, though. It was fun. Yeah, that's fun. Is melted ice cream on a hot day? Mm. I had a pumpkin pie blizzard yesterday. Did a fall in the truck stop pouring to pick it up and need it. It's like this on the ground. Oh, yeah. I'm not Casey, but yes, I did you on purpose.
00;28;10;13 - 00;28;33;27
Unknown
You did it to celebrate the movie. Yeah. Good. Yeah, I did have a question, though. And please tell me if I missed something at any point in this movie, aside from the time that they explicitly state this in like, the final act, do they ever refer to themselves as the rocketeers? Or is that just like a name that they give themselves, that they talk about it at least like three times?
00;28;33;28 - 00;28;54;12
Unknown
Oh, did they do the ads? Oh, well, yeah, because one time fucken small Paul is kidnaped, they think he's dead and they talk to this other kid and they're like, Well, there may just be an opening in the Rocketeers. Oh, really? Just like, casually. And I was like, Oh my God, I think your friend just got murdered. Yeah, it's confusing.
00;28;54;15 - 00;29;23;18
Unknown
And you're like, You need to fill a spot, but you're not a fortunately, you're not attractive enough to join us. Sorry. Somebody else. I like the friendship group, though I will say. Yeah, for the movie being so you know what it was. I like that. I thought the kids are better actors than the adults, and oh, they were hands down in their chemistry.
00;29;23;21 - 00;29;40;04
Unknown
I like that they all they didn't like turn on each other. They were all just like supportive and like, Yes, Tuna had like this encounter with the ice cream and the other kids are like tuna. Like, I know you've had a harder time than we have with this, but we can't do this. Yeah, you know what I mean?
00;29;40;04 - 00;30;09;12
Unknown
And I was like, Oh, like these kids got each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah. God bless them. It was everyone. And then we're introduced to Nerissa Walton, who is Olivia Navasky, Olivia Hussey, who we've talked about quite a bit on this podcast. She's kind of sprinkled her way into a lot of random horror movies over the years. Yeah, Black Christmas and my first exposure to her was in the 1990.
00;30;09;13 - 00;30;29;11
Unknown
IT Mini. That's right, yes. Did she play that? That's where I first saw her. No sheep? No. She was the bill's wife. So when they get older. Oh, I'm thinking because I'm thinking the ice cream man came out last year. So I was like, thinking of her, you know, in 91. She must have been, like, know, like a kid.
00;30;29;11 - 00;31;02;03
Unknown
Yeah. Speaking of when it came out, ice cream in this movie reminds me of the kind of movie that would have come out in, like, the early to mid eighties. So when I saw that it was 95, I mean, it makes sense just based off like clothes and everything. And yeah, kind of threw me for a loop. I do wonder if it was shot a few years earlier and it was on hold because I remember when we were talking about the music and sort of the esthetic that's in Child's play too, and Basket Case two and three, that sort of house horror look.
00;31;02;05 - 00;31;21;29
Unknown
Yeah, a similar vibe from this one. And I feel like that esthetic, like that style kind of just like existed in that very small range of like 1990 to 1982. So I just wondered if because the movie seemed so cheap and low budget that it maybe it took them a little while to maybe get it put out into the world.
00;31;22;02 - 00;31;45;27
Unknown
Yeah. So we'll never know. Yeah, there's a lot of people going on this movie I liked. It was a lot of fun, but honestly, my favorite part about this movie is probably the music. It like. Really? Yeah, it was like orchestra. It was like it was. Yeah, it was very Children of the Corn. But because of that, it really did not fit this movie at all.
00;31;45;29 - 00;32;11;12
Unknown
Oh, I thought yeah, I didn't think so. I keep thinking of when they do his theme. No, I speak a lot of the music was like really orchestral with like a kid, a choir and stuff like that. Yeah. And yeah, it didn't fit with this movie at all. But no, but I like, I thought this would be a very good double feature with Dr. Giggles.
00;32;11;14 - 00;32;29;27
Unknown
I've never seen it. Was he in that. No, no, no. Or that was he just or something? Yeah. Okay. I remember. Seen. Yeah, I thought this and I thought ice cream man and Dr. Giggles would make a good double feature. Anyways. What is Doctor Jingles? I've always seen the poster, but I don't know anything about it. Doctor giggles.
00;32;29;29 - 00;32;49;24
Unknown
He was like this again. He was like a traumatized kid. Something happened with him and they don't. Trauma exists, right? And just like it. And then he just goes kind of like this. Like he he was traumatized as a kid and he grows up and he's instead of an ice cream man, he's a quote unquote, doctor. He was like in an institution and all this stuff.
00;32;49;24 - 00;33;11;15
Unknown
And how did he be? How did he get a doctorate? Yeah, that's like work. I don't know. I don't think he actually had a doctorate. Oh, he's. I think he just. But that was like, Oh, man, this. Well, never mind spoiled. Let's talk about that. No, let's pivot. All right. We're listening. We're going to pivot. This is now a new episode about Dr. Giggles.
00;33;11;17 - 00;33;38;12
Unknown
No, it's no, no. He likes he's got like, this, like tube thing, like a milkshake thing. He like, puts a tube down a lady's throat with, like, a spinning blade, and it pours like milkshake in an ice cream. It's fucking gross. But no, you guys should see Dr. GROSS, Dr. Gail Milkshake. He has a pretty good. Okay. I'm surprised that you guys did not.
00;33;38;12 - 00;34;10;29
Unknown
Ornette's about this. Does the dog dies? Oh. Oh, I forgot. Yeah, I'm going to buy it. Everything happens to it. Not cool with dog. I forgot. Sorry, guys. Before I get to the dog though. Yes, it does. But there is a very important little thing that we kind of frolicked away from. What is that is when the kids are at the park and the caretaker guy who's kind of like roaming around tells the story of the Pied Piper, which kind of beats the run.
00;34;11;04 - 00;34;33;13
Unknown
Yeah What Yes, about he's just like the wise old man who informs kids of grim tales. So do you guys know the story of the Pied Piper? Yes, I do know the story of the Pied Piper. If the kids follow him. Nate, we're seeing that. That actually a real thing, correct? Yeah. So it's like folklore. I don't know.
00;34;33;13 - 00;34;58;26
Unknown
It's always been a story for the Grimm fairy tales. So they did like an adaptation of it, so. Gotcha. The Pied Piper, It was like it was back in, like, Germany and like, the, I don't know, 20 times. That was the Germans and they had, like, an infestation of rats. And this guy showed up the Pied Piper in, like, his colorful uniform.
00;34;58;28 - 00;35;21;16
Unknown
And he said that he could play his flute and drive the rats away. And the guy was like, Okay, do that. And we'll give you like, I don't know what it was like 5000 bucks or whatever it was quit or whatever they call it. Coins. Coins. I'll give you 5000 pebbles. Yeah. And so he drove the rats away.
00;35;21;16 - 00;35;46;16
Unknown
And then the guy was like, Yeah, I'm not giving you that money because you probably just brought their ants with you. And that's why we had the problem. And then you're trying to extort us, so I'm not giving you anything. So then the whole town goes to church one Sunday and they come back and all the children are missing because the Pied Piper led the children off into whatever.
00;35;46;16 - 00;36;07;11
Unknown
And there's different versions of the story. Some people say that they he led them to a cave and that they came back later. Some people said he led them to the river and they drowned just like he drowned the rats. So that's the Pied Piper know that made me think of a story. I don't want to get too far off, but I'm bringing in the rats.
00;36;07;14 - 00;36;37;27
Unknown
So we in Casey, we used to work at this really nice home motel. Motel, motel, myself. And we were instructed by the owners that if people so like, Hey, there's bedbugs in that room, we can't give them their money back because we're like, Well, you could brought them in here. Yeah. And that's how we were supposed to handle that was the clean up, you know, about bedbugs?
00;36;37;27 - 00;37;01;22
Unknown
Oh, she knew about that. She knows about bedbugs. You know. Yes, ma'am, I know about bedbugs. I'm educated and 26 years old. I'm educated. I know about bedbugs. Anyways, you probably brought them in here anyway. I go, Wow, You know that place as wild that we should have? We should have a podcast episode on just the hotel that we worked at.
00;37;01;22 - 00;37;30;09
Unknown
It was a horror story, truly. Yeah. Anyways, unsavory establishments, the real monster. It's fucking funny though, you know? You know what that story reminded me of? Because he's telling the Pied Piper story and the kids obviously end up kind of like drawing a parallel with the straw man. Also reminded me of Freddy Krueger. I wonder if West Craven took that as some kind of inspiration, because in that case, the parents do wrong him.
00;37;30;09 - 00;37;55;05
Unknown
And there is like revenge. This one. I kept wondering if there was going to be some kind of reveal that and maybe I missed something and probably did that, like the parents did something to Gregory in his past that kind of made him come back in sort of like creamy retribution or something. But I think there a lot of things set up and I did not I don't know if they I just didn't get it.
00;37;55;06 - 00;38;15;21
Unknown
Yeah, I think as far as like the parents, they thought like some of the parents even were in on some stuff, but they weren't totally very strange. Yeah, there were a lot of things that made, I don't know, like going a little bit forward. Sorry that scene where he's at the cemetery and he's bringing the ice cream. Yes.
00;38;15;23 - 00;38;39;26
Unknown
And they were like setting it up that he was doing something, but he really wasn't. I don't know. I felt like the whole movie was kind of like that. Like, yeah, to the with the nurse, how she ends up living next to him. But yeah, I'm unaware of him being this like, psychotic killer. But then sort of like leans into it without any there's no grace period.
00;38;39;29 - 00;39;01;06
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah. Do you think she was? Which made me wonder if that was just the intent. Like we're supposed to be like, Oh, like, wow. She was also very insecure in Sanatorium. Yeah, I think she. She just was also so crazy that she just. Oh, I don't know. I. I don't know. Yeah. So do you think it was supposed to treated as a twist, like we weren't sterilized.
00;39;01;06 - 00;39;20;13
Unknown
It was her until later. Like it was a Clark Kent thing. Like with the glasses. Like, it's like, Oh, that's who. It's her. Oh, no. I think we were supposed to know who it was. Her. Okay, I think so, Yeah. Okay. But I was surprised. Speaking of, like, the adult, I was surprised to see David Warner and David not in this movie.
00;39;20;15 - 00;39;44;17
Unknown
David Warner, I don't know, was a gift. So David was like the preacher that the priest dad who there was that whole weird thing with, like his way of speaking in tongues was like, Put it back. Oh. Oh. Sometimes I didn't think she knew that. Yeah. Yeah. She like. Like a chicken. I thought she just. I thought she was great as well as.
00;39;44;19 - 00;40;15;11
Unknown
As someone who has family members. You didn't count? Yeah, she was like, sense. Why is she crazy? Why are they acting like it's normal? Oh, religion. So, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that also doesn't go anywhere. It know it was confusing because it was like, are you going to, like, talk about it? But they even showed like the, the wife later she was like saying goodbye to her daughter, just going to school in like, yeah, the response rate of her, like slowly bring her inside.
00;40;15;11 - 00;40;35;24
Unknown
So she looked like she was. Yeah. And they were like, so I don't know if other people in this town were also just, like, traumatized or messed up in a way, and they just were all acting like it was normal. It was like, Oh, that's interesting. If you did like kind of an extended reveal of the flashback and you see that there are other kids and everyone is affected.
00;40;35;24 - 00;40;58;16
Unknown
So it wasn't just him to me or something. Or maybe like all the parents you find out are actually like escaped patients from the same hospital. I don't know. The whole ice cream man was ice cream king who got gunned down at the beginning in a drug related drive by was drugging all the ice cream. Yeah, He was doing drugs in the ice cream.
00;40;58;17 - 00;41;36;17
Unknown
And then these kids, they are ate it. And some of them were affected. Well, they just they to prison on acid for the rest of it as they gave it, they he gave them this like laced ice cream and it just mess them up or because he stopped supplying them the ice cream never withdraws they just their lives were like oh way that makes that would that would make more sense because then it would push people into the hospital and then push them into getting this work done and experimentation on them and then them going out and doing random shit like, yeah, that would make sense.
00;41;36;19 - 00;41;56;09
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah. They laid a lot of a lot of variables, a lot of things you can play with, sort of things that could add up that ultimately turn out to be nothing. But I mean, you know, is that not what you're left with after you enjoy a delicious ice cream cone or sandwich or bar, you're left with a sticky inside.
00;41;56;15 - 00;42;33;13
Unknown
Yeah, Sticky. That's not unlike our friend Edward. Oh. Got the other surprise actor that I was surprised to see was David Newton. Who was. Who was David Tuna's dad and David Niven was what's his name in the main character in American Werewolf in London. Oh, I wouldn't I didn't recognize him at all. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think I got a good look at from his dad.
00;42;33;13 - 00;42;58;02
Unknown
I'm not going to like. So it's kind of. He looked so familiar. Yeah. American Werewolf in London. But also that brings us to a segment that Brooke, I. No, you are here for this. I don't know. It's a segment that doesn't happen very often, but when it does makes me hungry, makes me real freaking hungry. Makes me want a hot dog real bad.
00;42;58;04 - 00;43;34;19
Unknown
It is time for a hot dog talk with the boys. Oh, hot diggity dog. Kielbasa, bratwurst, ballpark, franks, vintage schnitzels, Italian sausage, everything from wet flappy dogs to hard marble rods. This is hot dog time with the boys. I'm confused as to where this is going. Where were there? Hot dogs. So no. Where were there hot dogs? In researching this movie, I found out that David Naughton was in a movie called Hot Dog.
00;43;34;21 - 00;44;03;00
Unknown
The movie Hot Dog. And it's about skiing, right? That's like a run. It's like a raunchy sex comedy about skiing. Like, you know, like the eighties and like Porky's or all that kind of stuff. Like, it's one of those kind of movies. And I found out that freestyle skiing, like, you know, skiing not about getting down the hill down the mountain fastest, but doing like, tricks and showboating.
00;44;03;06 - 00;44;23;21
Unknown
It was originally called Hot dog skiing. That is ridiculous. Why they call it boogie? Why not just hot dogs and like, do like what? It's like. It's like in the movie you get like a rose. New York accent when you said that, why don't they call it off the movie? Why didn't the hot dog, the movie review? No Hot Dogs movie.
00;44;23;24 - 00;44;49;29
Unknown
Hey, this movie, zero. There's no hot dogs. No hot dogs. I wanted hot dogs with hot dogs. Why is this movie about skiing? It's called Hot Dogs. The movie. So is this a segment? What is this segment about? I don't know. You just talk about just because it's so hot dogs and now, you know, there's a movie called Hot Dog.
00;44;49;29 - 00;45;15;27
Unknown
The movie. Yeah. Guys, guess what I had today for lunch? A burger, hot dog. Oh, no, you didn't. That's the Smith. Smith. Smith says it's like the universe is telling me Danny's never had a Smith hot dog. What's this? Smith's hotdog. Okay, Brooke, I have to ask. I don't know how much you know about Smith's hot dogs, but never mind.
00;45;15;28 - 00;45;42;01
Unknown
How much do you know about Smith's hot dogs? Where are you going? To ask about the casing of the circumcised hood. I can, Christi. Right. I like it with some with casing and some without. I like it with the casing. Yeah, really kinetic. It's like I thought it's like a joke that they would like. Oh, they take off some of the casing, the circumcise.
00;45;42;07 - 00;46;00;24
Unknown
It it seems so specific about, like dad is not going to know anything about Smith's hot dogs. Well, Smith is made. They're made an area. Okay, So they're fit. They're Pennsylvania famous. Basically. You've got to have one. If you were coming to Erie. Okay. Yeah, I'm on my way. It's nice to see you guys. Come on. How about a plane?
00;46;00;26 - 00;46;23;29
Unknown
Got to go get it. Really good. Don't get circumcised. Yeah, I. Perfect. You guys a doctor at the boys? All right, now, talking about ice cream. It's now we got snow. It's crazy Hot dog. Oh, okay, That's fair. I guess I'm, like, imagining eating it together, which is funny because I can eat a hot dog and then ice cream.
00;46;24;01 - 00;46;47;09
Unknown
And then ice cream, but I don't flavored. I Yeah. Covered a hotdog covered ice cream. Yeah. People dip like, you know, you get like you get like a frosty from a frosty from Wendy's and people put French fries in it and then dip in a hot dog in it. Yeah I would dip a corn dog in ice cream I think that's essentially with you.
00;46;47;11 - 00;47;12;23
Unknown
I would do it. I would I frequently like it. I would dip because ice cream going from hot dog talk back into the ice cream is great news for ice cream. Perfect. It's like a pinball machine. We're going to keep going back if you can't talk about one of those. So we're stuck in Paradox now. I wonder if he sells hot dogs out of his ice cream truck.
00;47;12;25 - 00;47;36;23
Unknown
He sells probably some form of hot dogs like organs. He could. It would be easier for him to do that than for him to like 100% earn the ice cream, turn people into like, powder that he puts into ice. Yeah, well, that's so true. I think about that too. But yeah, we'll get there. But we are at the point right now where he pours out the eyeball.
00;47;36;25 - 00;47;59;16
Unknown
Yeah. And yes, he puts it all so he causes it out. Right. He uses like an apple core and go see that eyeball he screwed in ice cream. Gives it to the guy. Yeah, the guy eats it. And then when the guy is eating it and we see the close up of his mouth, it's a off. Yeah. And he's just playing with it in his music for like 10 seconds, you know, if you.
00;47;59;17 - 00;48;18;16
Unknown
Yeah. And it's both. It's not just the piece that he took out of the eyeball and the ice cream. It's the whole eyeball that would be very stinky. Yeah. Like even for, like, when it comes, that would be the first thing you notice is the smell. They don't even check it. They don't even. They check everything except the check.
00;48;18;17 - 00;48;47;17
Unknown
Yeah, they do. They check everything that he is associated with except as well. That smells of fraud flakes. Oh, my God. This is kind of where Paul, like they already got ice cream once during the day. And Paul wants more ice cream. There's nothing wrong with that. It's just. Yeah, that's true. And so he goes to a back alley just by himself.
00;48;47;19 - 00;49;18;25
Unknown
This might be our first monster reveal to a character in the movie. Yeah, Not counting the dog, because the dog gets the. The push pop blade. Yeah, right. But this is the first reveal to a human character, right? When Paul finds out that he had the ice cream in Gregory killed the. The park janitor. Park janitor. What do you think it was twice in the maintenance care.
00;49;18;27 - 00;49;26;17
Unknown
Maintenance? Caretaker man. And so it's credited.
00;49;26;20 - 00;49;52;12
Unknown
Gregory Take small. PAUL At first we think he's dead because Tina sees him getting dragged into the ice cream truck. So then Gregory chases Tina back to his house, And this part was so weird. I thought this was fucking insane. He gets home and his mom's, like, basically, like, you know, the rules, your shoes. And he goes, and he has to put his shoes outside on the porch.
00;49;52;13 - 00;50;14;17
Unknown
Yeah. You say, Mom, my friend was just abducted. Yeah. Yeah. I would argue having to put your shoes on the porch is weirder than your friend. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Like, I think no one else's shoes are on the porch, right? It's true. It's just yours. Issues have no chance of being cleaner by remaining outside on the porch.
00;50;14;23 - 00;50;39;04
Unknown
Well, I was His nickname is Tuna. Because he smells or something. Oh. Oh, maybe that's. What's that smell like? Tuna fish that. That's nasty. But what's even more nasty is the next morning when his shoes are covered in ice cream and worms and. Yeah, yeah. So ice cream man is showing him you're next. Yeah. And that's when they go to the the grocery store, Right.
00;50;39;07 - 00;51;01;15
Unknown
Did the grocery store scene in this chase scene is ridiculous. Nate pointed out he goes back there she sort of carpet you notice with it and then at me Yeah And then I was like white. And then it just felt so uncomfortable. I think I was at a school or something. So yeah, the carpet will be returning to this conversation later.
00;51;01;17 - 00;51;22;22
Unknown
Okay. There was so many weird things about this scene. Number one, this kid just had this, like, traumatic experiences. Feels like he's being chased by a weird stranger and. His mom just, like, sends him off to go grocery shopping to get stuff on his own, you know? And then there's like that whole thing where, like, he sees the ice cream in ice cream and sees him.
00;51;22;29 - 00;51;44;26
Unknown
I don't know if it's the same person. And he, like, looks at his shoes and he's like, Oh, no, the other kids shoes were red. Like, that's not him. But he ruined those shoes. I don't fucking know. It was very bizarre. Yeah. And then they have this whole chase scene where two just avoidable chase. He did any movie whatsoever.
00;51;44;28 - 00;52;13;27
Unknown
All you have to do is speak words and say, Help me or something. And he finds a lady who's wearing the exact same outfit, same height as you say. It is literally the actress who plays his mom until she has to tell you that. Yeah. How do we see Tiffany show that woman? And then they cut away to the mom walking away, literally, to save her.
00;52;13;29 - 00;52;38;25
Unknown
I think she has long hair. Later. Oh, my God. Yeah. And then Tina tries to make a getaway by getting on the cart of an employee, and he's, like, this big. Like, I don't know, 12, 13 year old kid riding on this cart with, like, his legs flailing out the back. And this employee doesn't notice that her skirt got is noticeably heavier.
00;52;38;27 - 00;53;01;25
Unknown
And then he, like, rolls off and it's just seamless. Like the employee does not know what's going on in front of you, like a home alone scene, like a poorly done scene. I just wrote Tuna escapes out of car like a fucking idiot. That's standing. But it did work. That's there. Yeah, you're right. I like I always like in movies, though.
00;53;01;25 - 00;53;22;05
Unknown
When? Because I hate, when there's, like something that going on and like, all the person has to do is tell somebody, tell the authority, tell your parents I like that. He actually told his mom, told the police, and then they went I mean, they didn't do anything about it, but that it was like, I don't know, gives me some kind of satisfaction when I'm watching a movie.
00;53;22;05 - 00;53;39;23
Unknown
And I'm like, thank you. It could have been so much easily avoided if you just told somebody. Totally. Yeah, yeah. In most in movies, it's like the whole movie revolves around the fact that somebody didn't tell somebody something, otherwise the movie wouldn't exist. And it's like, that's the only way that you could find out how to do this.
00;53;39;25 - 00;54;00;19
Unknown
Yeah, it's by making that person really dumb. Yeah. So. Yeah. So at least you did tell it. But was it like the grocery store, like owner? He was like, You're not going to take us to court over this, are you? Yeah. You know, pretty small comments are just like, What? Yeah, but yeah, the carpet in that place. Oh, my God.
00;54;00;21 - 00;54;17;18
Unknown
I could smell it. Feel like it sells. Like I could feel it. I could feel it, you know? Yeah, yeah, it felt like it was it. I don't know. Yeah. Like, no matter how many times you vacuum it, there's just, like, this dusty film on it. This just feels gross. Yeah, I feel it right now. Yeah, it's awful.
00;54;17;20 - 00;54;41;28
Unknown
So we find out that the ice cream king who got gunned down at the beginning is named Butch Brickell, and he is celebrated by Gregory and small. Paul was hidden in the freezer right here, like this weird, like cubby in the freezer. And he, like, got the kid out. And Paul had, like, this weird thing where he was, like, connecting with Gregory.
00;54;42;05 - 00;55;09;01
Unknown
Yeah, it was weird. Yeah, it was like, Stockholm syndrome. But real quick. Yeah, real quick. He was like, totally fine with it. He was. He was like, connecting with him. Solid He killed somebody and then immediately forgot and was just like, Yeah, it's okay. Yeah, I got it. And I don't know why. Not quite to the extent of this, but like Michael Jackson vibes where he just, like, connected with this little kid.
00;55;09;03 - 00;55;44;12
Unknown
Sure. Because he had this. Oh, I. Because the kid looked like Macaulay Culkin, that's why. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's okay. So small. Paul is being Michael Jackson's by ice cream in this wonderful place with everything you can imagine. This is where we get another brilliant scene, which I like to call search and destroy. Okay. Because this is where they get a search warrant for ice cream in man's ice cream shop.
00;55;44;15 - 00;56;07;22
Unknown
And they're like, if ever there was a way to give your villain anything, they just they were literally just smashing every smashing set. I felt bad for him in that moment. I don't feel like it really made me feel bad. I forgave of this because of that. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. It just didn't make sense. Like wired like.
00;56;07;28 - 00;56;35;19
Unknown
Like you said, they weren't looking for anything. They were just making a mess. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. It was a bullish moment. It was definitely was. Yeah. Yeah. They were just taking advantage of the fact that they could. I feel like they were trying to give us a reason for him to get mad at people or something because like, up until then, I don't know because then it dep everything just went crazy shortly after that.
00;56;35;19 - 00;56;53;02
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He was still killing people. Yeah. Yeah. But then what do you think? It was deliberate to get the audience sort of to sympathize with him. Like, look at these awful characters he's going to kill because he doesn't kill any of the kids, does he? He tries to, I guess. I guess you could argue that, but.
00;56;53;05 - 00;57;17;26
Unknown
But like, in the same way you would like, root for Jason. You know, like these annoying teenagers are getting. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Going to be watching you, but they were having sex instead. Yeah. Get him. See, he just needs to just give Pamela Voorhees. He did like him. Yeah. Yeah. I want to say really quickly that, like, I want to find butter Brickell ice cream.
00;57;17;28 - 00;57;36;27
Unknown
No, I wish we all had butter on ice cream right now. Yeah, I have never had it, but I. One way, that's a real thing. Yeah. What is it? Yes, it's like toffee. Toffee, ice cream. Oh. So what was in that ice cream? King's last name? Brickell. Mm hmm. Yeah. That's why I thought it was made up that way.
00;57;36;29 - 00;57;58;00
Unknown
He connected with the kid Is that way because. Is that the same flavor that that kid keeps getting? Oh, snap. Oh, so you think that's why he's like, Oh, I'm sure that was okay. But their reasoning may have been know I don't know something about that ice cream burger. I don't know when it it's literally just answer to all of our kids.
00;57;58;03 - 00;58;19;28
Unknown
Enjoy. You connected the dots. Oh this is like, wait a minute, there was motivation. I get it. Yeah. Yeah. They needed to make that stuff more, like, obvious, I think, because so much, so much stuff they could have. Well, he should have killed some kids first so that we could have seen him. Like why he stops, you know, like cause it wasn't.
00;58;19;28 - 00;58;40;11
Unknown
Oh, don't even think, you know, the king's name until later, Right. The scene, right when they get into the ice cream shop right before it gets raided, you find out the ice cream. Kid's ice cream. King's name was the Butter Brickell Ice cream. The one that he was making from, like, all the ground up people. I don't know, because he wasn't.
00;58;40;13 - 00;59;04;14
Unknown
Let's be 100% clear here. He wasn't making any ice cream with any of that. What What was that water with like grated it like versus sugar powder. Take me six months for this to thicken with coloring mix. Yeah, It was like he was making Jell-O. Yeah, yeah, yeah. None of that was ice cream. I was very upset by that.
00;59;04;16 - 00;59;21;15
Unknown
I was upset because in the description, it says he turns the kids into ice cream. Which one? We just established. He doesn't even kill any kids. Which would have been a great premise, right? Second, he doesn't turn any of them into ice cream. He just puts their body parts into already made ice. Yeah. So he's seasoning the ice cream?
00;59;21;18 - 00;59;42;00
Unknown
Yeah. I wanted to see him, like, breaking down the messed up, but I wanted to see him, like, breaking down. No, but for this kid body, like what it is and, like, the promise of the actually putting them in the ice cream. Yeah, Yeah, we're not. It must actually taste good. Well, yeah, I mean, in a sugar and cream in anything then.
00;59;42;03 - 01;00;12;02
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah. True sugar. We don't care. I'll eat something if something has sugar in it. Even if we did. I mean even because on the grind of a truck, Right. It's real sugar and it's like we're good at pubic hair on it. You're just like, So. Yeah. No shame. Oh, God. Okay, shifting gears for a second, I want to talk about the rocketeers and where they get all their spy gear.
01;00;12;05 - 01;00;35;17
Unknown
Yes. To that rocket the kid had, like, a on his buddy. Yeah. Yeah. So this is where the rocketeers decide that they need to find this ice cream man. They need to follow him and see what he's doing. So they get on all their best spy gear with their microphones and their walkie talkies in their rock. I used to like it when I was a kid.
01;00;35;17 - 01;01;07;06
Unknown
They're like fucking berets. I want to be. You're like your with that like logos and everything. They were like customs. They'll never know where spies if you wear a uniform. Yeah, Yeah. They follow the ice cream truck. And this was my favorite part because they say, Oh, like, he's coming, get down. And so they all just kind of scrunched down by their bikes, but they're still just like, in plain sight, out in plain sight, just like in the open.
01;01;07;11 - 01;01;31;06
Unknown
And the truck just drives by like doesn't see them. And they're like, okay, let's go. Oh, he always does ridiculous stand. And then the same thing. Know, like, so then they follow him to the to the graveyard and an ice cream truck pulls up and the cop car is sitting, like, right in front of the truck. Yeah. And nobody sees that either.
01;01;31;08 - 01;01;59;25
Unknown
Yeah, it was just a little like they could have had the car like, pull up afterwards and kind of, like, creep into the scene. I don't. Yeah, but yeah. So he goes to visit Butch Brickell grave and he just, like, gives them a bunch of ice cream. Yeah, right. Yeah, we did. Way he has an ice cream truck, but he's crafted this, like, mechanism to hold like a handful of ice cream cones pre scooped.
01;01;59;27 - 01;02;19;26
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah. Like in this weird bag. Yeah. You kind of think like it's a body. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's just drive. Yeah. And just walk the ice cream cones over you literally. I don't know, Danny. I'm going to question how many hands this man has. It's there. This is probably the thing that makes the most sense in the movie, but he's literally parked right next to the grave.
01;02;19;26 - 01;02;52;02
Unknown
Like he could just walk over, put it down, walk back, get another round, come back. That's still a lot of work, Danny. He's working smart. Not hard. And with the way this ice cream drips like you think. Yeah. Yeah. With how melted already is like, it. So which I thought was really funny is that he goes one way into the graveyard and the kids all like, follow him right there and they like, set their bikes up and they crouch down and like exactly where he entered the graveyard.
01;02;52;08 - 01;03;12;01
Unknown
And then when he leaves, you would think he would just go back that way. Yeah. Where all the kids are. But because the kids are there, he can't go back that way. So he just takes a different way out of the cemetery. It was just enjoying himself. It just threw me off a little bit. So they follow him back to like, the neighborhood?
01;03;12;06 - 01;03;33;27
Unknown
Oh, because he goes back, he gets in his truck and he goes to the sexy lady who wants to have sex with them. That's because of the sexy lady on him. Yeah. Yeah. It was like 149. It was like her address. And he kept, like, saying it. And so he goes to her house and like Wanda, I think her name was Wanda.
01;03;34;00 - 01;04;01;25
Unknown
Yeah. And Heather, the little girl Rocketeer, she starts into his van and starts, like, taking pictures. Yeah. And what is that kid's name? Racer. The kid's name? Racer. I was the other kid. Not tuna, but the other one. Well, we'll just call him. Not to know. Not to. Not a tuna. Not tuna. Leaves Heather in the van, and he goes back to find tuna.
01;04;01;27 - 01;04;19;19
Unknown
And then the ice cream man gets in the truck. And you think that Heather is still in the van? Yeah, right. You find out later that she got out, right? Yeah. When that cop goes to her house and asks her dad to check on her, why was that cop so nervous? Yeah. Oh, my God. She was this most concerned guy ever.
01;04;19;21 - 01;04;36;06
Unknown
He was, like, spinning his billy club in the Can you. Can you please? Yeah, I know. I thought you should go check on her. Well, then, David Warner can make you feel bad about it. Yeah, he's like my sermon on Sunday. It's going to be about trust in the cops. Yeah, but you want to make sure that your fucking kid's alive.
01;04;36;06 - 01;04;55;26
Unknown
You fucking free? I just. Yeah. There's got to be some, like, power dynamic with David Warner's character. The preacher? Yeah. Yeah, the preacher. He was saying he had a weird effect on a lot of people there that I'm surprised I didn't like. You know, just for, like, the other dad getting murdered and stuff. I'm just surprised anything happened to him.
01;04;56;02 - 01;05;22;18
Unknown
Totally. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great point. You either like a death or a reveal as something like the mastermind or something. That. And just how he treated the mom. Yeah, there was a church service. We had, like, fake, like, blood on his hands. Right? And I was like, This is crazy. Like, yeah, they just were. He was the guy who ran the hospital.
01;05;22;21 - 01;05;43;24
Unknown
Oh, I just named Dana. Just take it back. Just be like, that's the thing. I'm like, he's I, I that would mean more sense to me if he was involved in some way because he was just so upset. He was. And it was just like, nope. It was just. Yeah. You know, Your David Warner Hopefully yes. Answer all of our questions in the second one in the sequel.
01;05;43;24 - 01;06;12;18
Unknown
Yeah. So what do we do point yet where he, he kills the sexy lady. Yeah, he gets a sexy lady. So. So before he kills the sexy lady, he kills David. Not in character. Yeah. With, like, a waffle iron. And he passes it on his face, which I thought was pretty cool, because then he goes to the door and he rings the doorbell to see Sexy Lady Wanda, and he presents her with a giant waffle cone with Martin's head on top of it.
01;06;12;18 - 01;06;33;23
Unknown
Like, did he just have that ice cream cone prepared for ahead? Probably. It was a it was the right size. Yeah, I was gone. So I think it's kind of funny. This movie, the budget was like $2 million. I think they spent half of it on fake heads because the heads looked really go, the heads looked incredible. The heads looked really good.
01;06;33;23 - 01;07;02;05
Unknown
But I think. Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. But that was it. Okay, now we're here. So we are here. We are here. It's like they're like, you get one shot for us to get fake blood on you. And they got it is kind of like what you like. If it there you can see like, fake blood get into his actual eyeball in the desert, freaking out and just, like, safe blinking with the one eye.
01;07;02;05 - 01;07;28;24
Unknown
And then he's trying to keep his other eye closed. That's that's I have to say. Yeah. Yeah. He did like such a tight close. Yeah, it was nice. Yeah. Yeah. It's method. Yep. Yeah. What did he say earlier when he had blood on his face and grenadine. Grenadine, right. Yeah. Yeah. Nurse Morton was like, on your face. And then he says it again.
01;07;28;24 - 01;07;53;20
Unknown
That the or. No, he doesn't say it again. But he mentioned something about cherry sauce when he's the the lady's asking about lipstick in the store. Oh. Oh, yeah. What is cherry sauce if not. Oh. Grenadine. Which. Right. Little fun fact that lady who asked for lipstick advice. Who is she? She is. She was a porn star, and she was the director.
01;07;53;20 - 01;08;24;00
Unknown
Norman Epstein's wife at the time. Oh, yeah. That's. It's funny because he also jumping ahead just a little bit. Yeah, he has a little bit of porn in this movie. Yeah. See? Oh, there's a picture. Yeah, of port. Did you guys miss it? Yeah. When they go get this film developed by porn DA was. Oh, yeah. They took two pictures of them fucking don't they get to this one guy that was like super soft core though.
01;08;24;02 - 01;08;52;03
Unknown
Like it wasn't. Yeah, I don't think. I mean, I want to go back and see. I mean, I mean, it's no Edward penis hands. What if it was a picture from Edward Penis hands that were awesome. Very awesome. Just slip it in there. All right, so about this time, Small Paul is going off the deep end in the ice cream thing, and he's, like, all about helping him.
01;08;52;04 - 01;09;14;12
Unknown
He's ice cream. Crazy. And then the two detectives go to visit the hospital. Yeah, but what brings them there? Like, they just show him up? They're like, Why did they? Because. Because they knew that Gregory was had been there. Okay. Oh, yeah. Thank you. So, yeah, they're trying to figure out, you know, what? What kind of mental disorders brought him there.
01;09;14;15 - 01;09;36;26
Unknown
And I want to just call this part of this movie. Oh they don't give you the information like it was madness, you know? It was. It really was crazy. It was the agenda at the hospital. I looked at the hospital. See, this part was unhinged. So they spent so much of the budget on this part of the mustard in this room.
01;09;36;26 - 01;10;06;13
Unknown
You guys are going to be two men sitting on a toilet facing the toilet? I think so. So he takes them in that room and everybody's been pumped with this green go. That just makes everybody look. I guess so I don't know why I thought that it was so fucking funny that you could see all of the silhouettes of all these people behind the doors.
01;10;06;16 - 01;10;27;22
Unknown
And then he's like, Wherever you are, come out, come out, wherever you are. But they're all just standing there waiting for their cue and you can see them all instead of just having people like, you know, come up on it. They wanted you to see the silhouette of all these people just standing there. I don't know. It was very strange.
01;10;27;24 - 01;10;57;19
Unknown
And then, yeah, when he when they split up and he's walking down the hallway and they just have everybody coming at this like, Yeah, seven minute scene of him just walking down this really long hallway and all these people just coming out. Apparently that actor was drunk most of the time on this. Oh, who is that cop who was just like, walking down the hallway and like, oh, that would make is that he was he was weird, sauntered away with the pigeons.
01;10;57;19 - 01;11;16;15
Unknown
Yeah. I thought it shouldn't be death, but it's like, yeah, apparently he was drunk. So that's what they say. Oh, yeah, it was so weird. They would, like, get up in his face for a second and then they just parents are following him, so I didn't know I put it. I guess I don't know. A lot of this movie just kind of like, came and went like, through my brain.
01;11;16;15 - 01;11;38;14
Unknown
Like I didn't really retain a lot. It wasn't cohesive. None of it was cohesive. But the whole thing with the injections that the patients get into their heads that yeah, I guess to your point, you know, it makes them like violent or whatever. I think that what made them was job security. You know, why suck it up at all?
01;11;38;20 - 01;12;04;22
Unknown
I know I keep every I feel like time I'm making a point. It's like, it's like a note, like a rewrite note. But I can't help it because I'm so confused. Why, if you're going to establish that, you would think then that the story of the movie would be about this ice cream man who uses whatever's in that to put in the screw and make his customers like, Oh, yeah, there's no there's not a cohesive thought.
01;12;04;25 - 01;12;37;19
Unknown
There's not a line. Yeah, there's not a line where everything comes together. They repeat that line about like Happy Happy Days or something about, Yeah, I hear it. And I mean, you think that there would be something behind that? Yeah. Like, yeah, no one seemed very happy. Oh, they were like, so yeah, like that. Like their treatment is just basically put a Band-Aid on it, but they don't do anything with that because he will never see him unless he's talking to small Paul.
01;12;37;21 - 01;12;58;26
Unknown
We never see him sort of fighting like resisting the urge to kill or to be sad or anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. Well, treatment is a really strong word because I don't think it's treatment at all. That's not how you guys or your doctor does. That probably changed, I think as a guy. I think it was job security at first.
01;12;58;26 - 01;13;26;18
Unknown
The guide was just like, We'll just keep them all here. Yeah. And then he started using the girl himself. You must have started using the glue. And you never used to do. Yeah. Once you go good, you never go back. So here is a little bit where tuna's fat suit comes into play because he is riding his bike and apparently Tina doesn't know how to ride a bike.
01;13;26;21 - 01;13;53;14
Unknown
He can't keep up with anybody. And I think maybe that's why they made him overweight with the pillow because, like, he can't ride his bike. And so the bike an ice cream man just like drives up next to him and snatches them off his bike, puts them in the freezer and locks it somehow later he gets out. I don't know how, but Tina, at this point is locked in a freezer in ice cream truck.
01;13;53;16 - 01;14;20;07
Unknown
And this is when the kids go to Jacob, the brother to say, help, because Jacob is going to be a cop. Yeah, he is. He's going to be a good one, too. There's no good one. He's got a gun and a radio. He's going to he's got the gun. The badge comes next. Yes, that's right. So stupid. Also did now knowing that this man used to produce porn, did you guys see his dick outline in his white sweat pants?
01;14;20;07 - 01;14;51;09
Unknown
Because I did. No, No. Oh, yeah. You can see the leading man in this. All this stuff. I'm always Dick watching. You know, speaking of hospitals, hot dogs, ice cream, dick yells to the obvious damage to Dick. Yeah. And then what? They kind of rally together and go to the factory, right? Yeah. And Jacob goes in and he's like, Don't come in.
01;14;51;09 - 01;15;20;08
Unknown
If you hear gunshots or whatever, just call the person. Wait, wait. Okay. I just I, I'm looking at my notes and I mentioned it earlier. And again is just a conspiracy theory. Oh. Oh, we love those around here. Mm. It is time for the How I Met Your Monster Conspiracy theory of the week you hit it. I'm telling you that NASA's going for the president of the United States with an earthquake, you know, that kind of thing.
01;15;20;08 - 01;15;51;00
Unknown
A Secret Service agent. And then Rumsfeld, on top of the whole Vietnam War, was fought over, and now he's lost. Aristotle Onassis. Third issue this year, conspiracy theory. So I remember I said the hospital feels like a weird cult. Yeah. So that dad and the mom is crazy. Do you think the mom. She's been getting treatment in? The dad is aware of that, and that's why he's not even about the daughter being missing.
01;15;51;00 - 01;16;08;04
Unknown
I don't know that. Just kind of like, to me, it just it would make more sense if the and maybe we already said that, but we said a lot of things. Talk about a lot of weird things. No, but it's a great point. And the it's these little like one line. You could answer it because you've already set up enough.
01;16;08;04 - 01;16;31;19
Unknown
Yeah. Because there's that makes more sense in the mom like speaking in tongues is that she's like kind of crazy because she's been getting treatments and he's like, not concerned about it because he knows going on. I don't know. Yeah, he needed to be revealed as the head of that hospital or just not be in the movie. Yeah, you know, just say that about anything you did.
01;16;31;19 - 01;16;56;04
Unknown
All literally did all the heavy lifting by hiring David. Well, I'm sure it's probably the most expensive actor. Do something like. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, yeah. And then maybe they maybe that was the plan. And David Warner was like, give you this much. I am not going to like the main antagonist of this. I'll be a preacher and that's it.
01;16;56;07 - 01;17;16;13
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah. And then he stabs the girl right here so quickly. I was glad to hear that he killed that killed the brother then too. Right? Because she had the. He killed Jacob. You don't know yet. But he did. Yeah. And his clothes said, I love that he'd come out where he becomes of where he is Close. But no one in the car is even looking that direction.
01;17;16;13 - 01;17;34;20
Unknown
Right. So he did this to himself in seconds, but then have killed that girl either. Since we're just throwing out things that don't make any sense in this movie, that he just kind of goes crazy all at once. He's very slow to kill people, and now he just doesn't even care. Like people could show up at his house and, yeah, dead bodies everywhere.
01;17;34;20 - 01;18;05;13
Unknown
And he's not even being careful about it. And this is where we see the cops heads and swoops. Oh, ice cream scoops. Oh, that's a good thing. It was. Okay. Fun fact about ice cream scoops, guys. When when I was younger and we had this really thick ice cream scoop, very heavy, and we'd have to shake, we'd have to shake it.
01;18;05;16 - 01;18;29;20
Unknown
And I was like, Why? My mom's like, Well, Mercury's in there. And I thought, Yeah, the planet Mercury was inside these ice creams did like this really expensive ice cube. Yeah, No, I just was like these really expensive. Like, no wonder Mercury and no wonder it gets the ice cream. So, yeah, nobody explained these things to me. I just had to figure it out as a teenager.
01;18;29;20 - 01;18;52;08
Unknown
I mean, like Wade Kraft, right? Yes. Amazing. Yeah. You don't put a you don't put a mercury filled ice cream scoop in the dishwasher. No, don't do that one. So were was that a thing. But Mercury to ask him to handle stuff in it. Yeah I know that. Wow. It must have helped. Well so Mercury is the stuff in thermometers that take your temperature.
01;18;52;08 - 01;19;11;01
Unknown
Oh, yeah. I'm assuming. Is that the mercury probably used your, like, eat from your hand, probably your body heat. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. You occasionally heat it up just a bit. Yeah. So I tend to cut through the ice cream. Yeah. I mean, I think we still have that ice cream chip. I feel really smart. I just thought of that off the top of my head.
01;19;11;03 - 01;19;28;26
Unknown
And I think, you know what? It could not. It might not even be true, but it sounds right. So like. Thank you. Thanks, Casey. Thank you. Officials. Yeah. Casey, you had mentioned that a lot of the budget probably went to the fake heads. Yeah, it did. They were really good. Yeah. Yeah, really good. Yeah. I don't know who made them.
01;19;28;26 - 01;19;54;16
Unknown
I should look it up. So this is like the big finale as the kids are running around the factory and the ground and they run it, and Nurse Norton's house, there's naught Olivia, Nurse Wharton there, and then there's Wharton's house and ask her for help. And she thinks they're, like, playing the game because. Oh, yeah, hide and seek.
01;19;54;19 - 01;20;14;12
Unknown
So she gets all excited and she's like, Oh my gosh, this is great. I'm going to there's something she's offered her a little bit. Yeah, well, she was in the thing, but did she take the like she was a nurse there. She worked a thing though. The doctor was doing it. It was. Yeah, he was doing it. Yeah.
01;20;14;14 - 01;20;39;23
Unknown
So they're just stabbing. Just stabbing themselves in the head with a needle. Yeah, I guess. I don't know. But when the detectives show up and they see ice cream man grappling with tuna in the in the truck, and I feel like cops should have, they would have done more or they should have done more, but they kind of just like they were the worst couple.
01;20;40;00 - 01;21;00;27
Unknown
And I love it. They were dressed. They dressed their guy like fucking Mel Gibson from Lethal Weapon. He had like the Yeah. Shirts and yeah, like all and the boots. They just get knocked out by ice cream scoops because he gets them. Yeah. She gets up on the roof and he jumps down with two ice cream scoops and they're just like punk rock.
01;21;00;28 - 01;21;24;14
Unknown
Yes, they were in the movie. The movie would still end up exactly where it ended up. Exactly. She did for the movie. Yeah, they would probably help the movie because they wouldn't have gone to that sanatorium, that hospital. And they made it work. Just confused us with all the. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's funny with all of this stuff that makes zero sense in this movie.
01;21;24;14 - 01;21;45;08
Unknown
It was still only an hour and a half. Yeah. Still so long and so silly doing the first time too. And so, as you can see, I didn't fall asleep. I just got really distracted. There is a little scene to drag. Oh, this is wrapping up. In a weird way. It was 40 minutes in. I was like, Oh my.
01;21;45;10 - 01;22;14;25
Unknown
I literally like was that It was when he was with small Paul and they were just so small. So was it just so Brooklyn Danny He was wrapping up. I don't know. It could have right there, though. It could have in some way because of how it does actually end. Yeah. Yeah, he got it. Yeah. The kid that's going to end up being basically like his successor, the ice cream popper.
01;22;14;28 - 01;22;35;18
Unknown
Not before. He says they can't take that ice cream. Dick, the principal. I don't know. I was thinking about that. So small. Paul is actually the one that he connected with the ice cream and But then he killed him because, you know, he knows how to get him to make it. Also, it's yeah, again, it's this friend group.
01;22;35;18 - 01;22;55;24
Unknown
They care about each other. So like, I think he watched him like, kill other people and I don't think he cared. But when he saw he was going to hurt his friends, I think that's when he stepped in and good thinking. And, you know, I just think, man, weird movie. But we like the friendship story. Good friendship. But the morals are there more.
01;22;56;00 - 01;23;23;18
Unknown
Yeah, there's a lot of integrity. Surprisingly. Yeah. And then all the kids are great. Tuna loses a whole bunch of weight by taking the pillow out of his shirt. They make it so they do sell the the spot of the racketeers with Johnny, the missing kid from the beginning because small Paul is now stuck in a all alone in a hospital.
01;23;23;21 - 01;24;18;24
Unknown
Yeah. Like. Oh, they say that. Yeah, we're small, Paul. And he's like, Where else? Therapy. Therapy. Therapy like that. Each day. Yeah, but they deliver it like it was supposed to be funny. Let's. We're all therapy for and that's it. That's, that's ice cream in it, guys. I mean, that's it. Enough. No more. So much to explore and yet so few destinations in the end a but of question a lot of dead ends yeah yeah I still thought it was fun though it Well let's talk about the monster reveals in ice cream in Joey Michelle Oh on air I don't believe it.
01;24;18;24 - 01;24;57;00
Unknown
It was. That's how they get you. They're under the goddamn. So I don't think there's that many. Like, a lot of times we have a big list of reveals, but we initially see Gregory as a kid who's traumatized by the drive by shooting. Then we have a small Paul in the back alley. Think that's the next reveal? I mean, unless you just count the two of us as an audience when we see the ice cream truck for the first time and it's got the cockroaches in the.
01;24;57;06 - 01;25;18;26
Unknown
Yeah. My yeah, I think, I think that that counts as like his official reveal. That's like an audience. He kills the dog before he kills more people or before he gets small. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So let's actually see what he's actually capable of. Right? These are like, do they show body parts and stuff, or do they just show like cockroaches and stuff when they go?
01;25;18;29 - 01;25;44;06
Unknown
No, not in the in the very beginning. They don't show body parts. Okay. But then the next time they show the eyeballs and, like the intestines in the ice cream. Yeah, I think. Yeah, it's so true. He could have made just it would have all of his problems would have been so much, not even his problems, but his technique as a killer would have been so much more appropriate if he was selling hot dogs or meat.
01;25;44;09 - 01;26;02;10
Unknown
You know? Hmm. I think it'd make the process easier. He could sell more. So it should be called the hot dog in the house. So, I mean, he's a hot dog. He's a hot dog. Prince. Exactly. Making hot dogs at the pizza truck with the. But they also kill the dog so they can make hot dogs out of a dog.
01;26;02;13 - 01;26;24;14
Unknown
Small, really hot dog. While in a hot dog. Hot dog, you know. All right. Next, I'm done with my bit. The next one I have is like way later. And correct me if I'm wrong, if you guys know of a different one, but like, the next one I have is when he kills Martin, the dad with the waffle iron.
01;26;24;16 - 01;26;48;05
Unknown
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's great. Because all the other time after that, he's just like, we're kind of following him around and it's being a creep. Kids are chasing them and he's chasing the kids and all that stuff. And then I have right after that the reveal to Sexy Lady. Sexy like the sex is like, say something like sexual exploitation.
01;26;48;07 - 01;27;12;03
Unknown
There's a sexy, like, scene sexy lady around with the waffle cone. The big head in the waffle cup. Okay, Jason, I just don't know why. Why is it so funny when people mispronounce work? Sexy like, I don't know. Is sexy exploding that at some point the priest is. I'm going to just say he's a monster in some way.
01;27;12;03 - 01;27;50;21
Unknown
There's some someway. Sure. Yeah. Know sure. Yeah. There is something there. He's a human. Sorry. Religious listeners. Yeah, he's a priest, but yes, he's probably touching little boys. Yeah. Oh, what if. What if the ice cream man and the preacher dad were like, who's and he was. We just said that the kids are we include where he cooks and he's giving the kids to the ice cream men in exchange for free ice cream.
01;27;50;23 - 01;28;11;18
Unknown
Oh, you're going to you're not talking about how he's diddling boys and then giving them that ice cream, man. You're saying he's giving them for the. Okay, But he also pays rent with ice cream. So people are really into this ice cream. Remember this little boy with those gallons of cream? Everyone's just really just because they want to treat him.
01;28;11;20 - 01;28;33;20
Unknown
Olivia Hussey is his landlord, landlord, but also was the nurse of the hospital he was at and also is as kind of like twisted as he is. That's why I feel like something's in ice cream and also loves cream. I don't. She had a soft spot for him, so when he was released she probably was like, I can help you out with a place to stay.
01;28;33;20 - 01;28;51;23
Unknown
More like soft serve. She goes, Yeah. I thought he like I thought he was just paying to sleep on the ground at first because he sort of like with those flowers, big flowers. But yeah, when he wakes.
01;28;51;26 - 01;29;11;17
Unknown
God, Yeah. The flowers were weird to me. Like, Yes, sweet. The one guy even says, like, what do you do to keep your flowers so nice? Like, Yes. And I like why it like, yes. What? Well, she was I thought like it was like being serious and I was like, wait, is he joking? Yeah. I don't know. So many questions.
01;29;11;19 - 01;29;33;19
Unknown
Well, and then I think right after that, the last reveal that I have is the reveal when he comes out in Jacob's clothes and stabs the girlfriend in the throat, in the mouth, and I think that was like the last one, because then in the finale and everybody knows that he's can't reveal you're already there. That's right. And so we said something.
01;29;33;19 - 01;30;00;18
Unknown
That's it. What was your favorite? What was your favorite? Mine was definitely the waffle cone with the sexy lady boner. Yeah, I thought that was the best one, that they tried the hardest with that one. And then they immediately were like, You get One shot with guy. Yeah. So I basically did the same thing. I just went like a few seconds further.
01;30;00;18 - 01;30;26;03
Unknown
When he has the head on the ice cream cone, would that count as like a reveal? Yeah, that's still off a cone reveal so that Oh, so that. Okay, so when you say the waffle reveal, it's like that entire sequence. Well, it is like with the cops on the on the sticks. No. When he does the waffle and then he goes in because right after that the next scene is when he has his head on the cone.
01;30;26;03 - 01;30;54;00
Unknown
Right. And then he keeps the other like ring the doorbell and he comes in and he's got the cone behind his back. He walks in and he holds it out. And then Wanda turns around and sees it, okay. And that's going to be okay. But initially, I wasn't sure if we're counting that as like a prolongs because that's a reveal to tell Wanda, okay, that he's a monster and she's she can't diddle him anymore.
01;30;54;03 - 01;31;23;25
Unknown
No diddling until you've had your ice cream casing. What was your favorite reveal in ice cream in the head on the walk again? Yep. Look at us. I think we're all. Yes, all our heads are in there, right? They're in the same spot. All are in the same. They're in the same place. In the same place? Yeah. Oh, I have to say, if I had to go, I'd want to go by decapitation and then promptly having my head put into a waffle cone style.
01;31;23;26 - 01;31;47;16
Unknown
But would you want your face burnt with the waffle iron first? Maybe after. Yeah, maybe. If it's like trying to steal it. Maybe. Maybe, maybe after. Yeah. Well, I wonder if the waffle burn would kind of take away from the fear of that whatever blade he used to cut off the head. I don't think so. What if you went out in a banana split?
01;31;47;19 - 01;32;14;12
Unknown
How did they not do something with the banana? Split somebody and have and be like, Yeah, but you want a banana split. Yeah. Yeah. I mean yeah, he does that one. Kill with the girl with the blade up her in her mouth like under her jaw and he says brain freeze. Yeah. How about get it there. There is so many like opportunities for just some cheesy one liners I wish they could do.
01;32;14;19 - 01;32;37;17
Unknown
He could have to cut somebody from sternum to the crotch and then put a bunch of ice cream in them and and bananas and all that. That should have been the final. You know, Casey, today we were talking about we were kind of comparing the Thanksgiving trailer versus the fake trailer from Grindhouse, from Eli Roth. And you were saying that you forgot how gruesome it gets.
01;32;37;17 - 01;32;59;28
Unknown
And now you see you know, you see the the person who is basically stuffed like a turkey. Yeah. That could have a similar sort of ending here with that, like a person being the bowl. And then I'm so excited for that movie. Yeah, should be fun. But I was thinking, do you remember in Nightmare on Elm Street five with Greta?
01;33;00;02 - 01;33;22;21
Unknown
And he's like, force feeding her. Oh, she's like the supermodel and he's like, feeding her. And she gets like, I watched that movie way too young. That fucked me up. That really scared me, like, 100%. Watch the extended. There must be an extended scene of that movie because. Or in that movie because I watched that Nightmare on Elm Street maybe a couple of years ago, the fifth one.
01;33;22;24 - 01;33;49;15
Unknown
And it kind of just goes and I like watching him, just feeding her for kind of like way too long. It was disgusting. Yeah, it's it's that's a really great hunger films that are thinking what if with when you know when he has the head on an ice cream cone what if he stuffed his head of ice cream and like, ice cream was like, coming out of his eyes and ears?
01;33;49;17 - 01;34;11;03
Unknown
Who wrote this movie? Yeah. Yeah. So that's why they're doing it again, right? Yeah. I mean, yeah, it could be really good. It could be. So I hope it. I hope it gets made. That would be fun. Yeah. Well, this brings us to a segment that we like to call the real Monster. Running around, running as fast as you can.
01;34;11;06 - 01;34;37;24
Unknown
You can catch me. I'm the gingerbread man. You're a monster. I'm not a monster. You are. You and the rest of that fairy tale trash poisoning my perfect world. Now, tell me, where are the other eight? Here. Okay, so I have already revealed one of my real monsters for this movie, which is tuna's costuming and his his pillow fat.
01;34;37;26 - 01;35;05;26
Unknown
So I'll just say my next to real quick. My. The real monsters are the grocery store chase scene, as we all agreed. That is just for don't be a dunk. I think my my biggest real monster my number one real monster is piggy banks that you have to smash open Yeah. To get the money. Yeah. What kind of shit is that in when with that idea I get the.
01;35;05;29 - 01;35;30;14
Unknown
Let me pick through all of this porcelain. Right. The sharp porcelain with my little child fingers to get all this money. I mean, it's great for me. I mean, the business end of it, it's like, let's make a product. They hate to break in people just to keep buying more. Like, I get it because you want to, like, put it in and then, like, not be able to get it out because you have to use the money in the piggy bank to buy a new piggy bank.
01;35;30;17 - 01;35;57;16
Unknown
Yeah, it's just a vicious cycle. So that's what I think the real monsters and that is passed down trauma just and just think that's what this movie was about. Just skip and down trauma for one person. The next you think you kill it. You know, it was so much deeper. Yeah. Thank you, Brooke You're right. This is actually a really serious movie.
01;35;57;16 - 01;36;17;19
Unknown
This is actually really serious. Say that the writers didn't know it was that deep either. Yeah. You don't think? I don't think the director, Norman Epstein, didn't think didn't know this was studied. But are you crazy? I kind of mentioned minority to. It was just the way that he was making ice cream because he wasn't making ice cream at all.
01;36;17;19 - 01;36;38;26
Unknown
And that intrigued me because I. That's his job. Ice cream. That was his job. You're the ice prince. Yeah, you can make ice cream. And I was going to be the ice cream king if you don't take it seriously. You know what I mean? Ice cream, anyway. Hmm. Well, my real monsters. I've got a few. Yeah, I had the pillow under tuna.
01;36;38;26 - 01;37;07;13
Unknown
Sure. She was on the porch. Whoever gave the brother a gun and it was 1995, so. Yeah, but the number one monster was the carpeted grocery store, which out and I read that you said it was the scene itself was a real monster. That was my favorite scene in the movie. Like, genuinely, I was the most entertained watching that scene.
01;37;07;15 - 01;37;40;22
Unknown
I laughed. I yeah, I did not know where it was going. There are twists and turns, body doubles, chase scenes, escapes. It had it all. They had everything but that. Awesome. All right, cool. Well, I think that's it. Do you guys have anything else to add before we wrap this up? No, no, no, nothing. Listeners, if you have anything else to add about the ice cream in that you want to share with us, let us know.
01;37;40;22 - 01;38;09;13
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Find us on social media at How I Met Your Monster on Twitter at I Met your Monster. Where can our listeners find you guys on social media? I'm on Instagram at Will's mother. Casey Awesome. Brick I'm at I'm on Instagram at Brooke Surge her but you know, you can find me also on YouTube at Brooks engineering is Spotify some approximate Spotify and TikTok.
01;38;09;15 - 01;38;43;14
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Yeah and see I'm broke Actually, I think that's my third time switching it altogether. Alter ego. I mean, awesome. Yeah, it's in the air. Brooke, Ashley and Danny, you can find me on Instagram letterboxd threads. I'm the only surviving user of threads and you can find any slim Danny spelled day. And in my last name, Sally. Mimi It's two M's, like the candy melt in your butt on your hands.
01;38;43;17 - 01;39;11;12
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Wonderful. And you can find me on social media at one sec. Make sure to join us for our third feature in our Hunger Pains Triple feature. So hungry The Silence of the Lambs. You're watching the Cable Guy. I'm hoping that somebody would go out to get what I was doing and get the food and put the team in.
01;39;11;14 - 01;39;38;26
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Anyway, there is Silence of the Lambs and we should actually be should. But we will be finally meeting Hannibal Lecter, which it seems like we should have met him by now. We are on episode 90, so make sure to follow us on social media. Find us on all your podcasts platforms so you never miss an episode. Brooke, thank you again for joining us.
01;39;38;26 - 01;40;32;10
Unknown
It's always great to have you on the show and I hope you come back again. We'd love to. Thank you all for listening. Now go meet the monsters.