How I Met Your Monster

Quietly Roasting a Home Invader in Mike Flanagan's "HUSH" - Masked Up Pt 2

Episode Summary

In this episode of How I Met Your Monster, we continue our Masked Up triple feature with Mike Flanagan’s 2016 horror thriller Hush, starring Kate Siegel. As horror fans, we couldn’t resist sinking our teeth into this tension-packed thriller, where silence plays just as big a role as the masked killer. But don’t worry, we’re here to lighten the mood with plenty of roasts and off-the-wall humor. We chat about Flanagan’s knack for creating gripping horror, especially with Siegel’s powerful performance as Maddie, a deaf and mute writer trapped in a deadly game of cat-and-mouse. Between admiring the film’s eerie atmosphere and roasting each other (and Maddie’s cooking), we had a blast breaking down why Hush has become a modern horror favorite. If you’re a fan of horror podcasts that mix scares with laughs, this episode is one you don’t want to miss! Follow us for more terrifyingly funny takes on your favorite horror films.

Episode Notes

In this episode of How I Met Your Monster, we continue our Masked Up triple feature with Mike Flanagan’s 2016 horror thriller Hush, starring Kate Siegel. As horror fans, we couldn’t resist sinking our teeth into this tension-packed thriller, where silence plays just as big a role as the masked killer. But don’t worry, we’re here to lighten the mood with plenty of roasts and off-the-wall humor.

We chat about Flanagan’s knack for creating gripping horror, especially with Siegel’s powerful performance as Maddie, a deaf and mute writer trapped in a deadly game of cat-and-mouse. Between admiring the film’s eerie atmosphere and roasting each other (and Maddie’s cooking), we had a blast breaking down why Hush has become a modern horror favorite.

If you’re a fan of horror podcasts that mix scares with laughs, this episode is one you don’t want to miss! Follow us for more terrifyingly funny takes on your favorite horror films.

Episode Transcription

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Today, we continue our masked up triple feature with Mike Flanagan's 2016 quiet but mighty slasher. The silence is deafening. The violence is unforgiving, and home invaders are no match for a writer who's not only willing to kill their darlings, but stab them in the throat with a corkscrew. As we sound the alarm in an isolated cabin, meet a killer known only as the Man in Hush.

 

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You're listening to how I Met Your Monster. A podcast that explores the introductions to your favorite movie monsters. My name is Zack. I'm Danny and I'm Casey. And together we dive into the world of horror to find out how filmmakers have introduced us to our favorite monsters time and time again. This is how I Met Your Mother.

 

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Because you own it. We met him 15 years ago. I was told there's nothing left for you explorers in the regions. Spirits, demons to solve for ages to others. Here we go, Jack.

 

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Oh! Surprisingly. Come on. No big dragon. No!

 

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Welcome to how I Met Your Monster, the show where we discussed the introductions to your favorite movie monsters. Today is a special day because we are covering our very first Mike flannel in movie on this show. Yay! We are continuing our masked up triple feature with hush from 2016. Written and directed by Mike Flanagan. Also written by Kate Siegel, his partner in crime.

 

00:01:56:14 - 00:02:21:11

 

I fucking love their team mates. Yeah, it's so cool. Like, it's just it's awesome. And the fact they like, they wrote this one together. And Kate is making her directorial debut on the new upcoming VHS sequel. No way. Pretty cool. Yeah. That's cool. I have not seen the those. I have not seen those. I've seen them all. Unless I missed the most recent one.

 

00:02:21:13 - 00:02:46:22

 

Okay, I don't remember. I'm thinking yeah, they're all like they're all found footage, right? Like. Yes. And they're like kind of. Yeah. They're kind of like threaded through some kind of through line a little bit with. And it's very obviously, you know, centered on VHS. Yeah. Some in some capacity. Yeah. Really fun. The first one is probably my favorite.

 

00:02:47:00 - 00:03:15:21

 

And then I think it was 94. Okay. My second. Yeah, yeah. They're fun. I have really fun. Why have they not come out with DVD yet? Because DVD is our romantic. VHS is our romantic. They're talking about not romantic. I don't know, you can, like, watch over here. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. VHS just feels analog. I gave my I gave my first girlfriend a DVD copy of Mallrats.

 

00:03:15:22 - 00:03:34:21

 

For now, it's trying to make it. So why did I think. Why did I pick Mallrats? Why did you pick for it? I don't know, I couldn't think of a fucking funny movie in Mallrats. Fuck me. Yeah, yeah, you can think of the Direct City back. Oh, shit. Actually, my very first DVD that I watched was Detroit Rock city.

 

00:03:35:02 - 00:04:02:08

 

And no, it was really. Did you have your girlfriend? Yeah. No. And that fucking movie holds such a special place in my heart. So. Yeah. DVD. Fuck, yeah. Yeah. You know what else? My friend Jess, her the very first rated R movie she watched was Detour City, and I snuck the DVD into her house. Oh, so I wish I had Detroit Rock city DVD story.

 

00:04:02:10 - 00:04:20:04

 

Yeah, well, you should probably watch the movie first. Then you don't even have a Detroit Rock city story. You got to get on that, man. You need to change. My Detroit Rock city story is that I've never seen it. Yeah. Sad. Yeah. Anyways, I really want to talk about. Hush. Casey, I know this is your movie. Yeah.

 

00:04:20:06 - 00:04:44:17

 

This is what you picked for our messed up triple feature. And we had tried to pick this before when we were doing our writers shock triple feature. But at that time, it was not available to stream. It was not available on physical media, DVDs. Or is not VHS. And, it was just nowhere to be found.

 

00:04:44:17 - 00:05:12:07

 

And it was kind of one of those, like, lost in the last in the shadows, spies say hello to the night Mouse. This was. Oh, man, I still believe. I still believe two. Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding. I thought when I was a kid, I was like, there's a there's a chance I get to have that guy's body when I'm his age.

 

00:05:12:09 - 00:05:19:21

 

I didn't realize you had to like, you wanted his body. I just wanted his pants.

 

00:05:19:23 - 00:05:46:18

 

I didn't I didn't realize you had to work for that body. You just, like, got it. And I was like, well. And you. And then you just call it Puff Daddy for the baby oil. Oh my God, it's so dark. Oh did he say listen Sean. It's like getting scary movie which he was like I was at my I was at my friend Sean's full party.

 

00:05:46:20 - 00:06:19:05

 

He's like, oh, you know, Puff Daddy put that in. I love it, but that is scary movie. It's not hush is the movie we're talking about. So if you're going to talk about Scary Movie, hush, we're talking about hush. Yes. Hush, Casey. Why, why did you pick this movie? So after I watched, Midnight Mass, my friend had recommended hush to me, and I watched Midnight Mass, like, very shortly after it came out, and I was obsessed with it.

 

00:06:19:05 - 00:06:51:11

 

And my friend Carly said, have you ever seen hush? It's also a mike Flanagan movie. There's a little there's a little midnight mass Easter egg in there, and, yeah, I would say, it's a pretty big, pretty big, midnight mass Easter egg. Yeah. So it's the idea. So, okay, so for anyone who has not seen this movie, it is, suggested or it is stated, I guess, that the main character played by Katie Siegel, Maddie, is the author of a novel called Midnight Mass.

 

00:06:51:11 - 00:07:15:10

 

Midnight mass, obviously, as Casey mentioned, is one of the limited series from Flanagan. So is that to so? Okay, another thing I'm kind of going off on a seagull. Larson plays Aaron in my nightmares. Yeah. You? Yeah. Mike Flanagan has adapted quite a bit of, Stephen King's works and is a, you know, self-professed Stephen King fanatic.

 

00:07:15:12 - 00:07:43:11

 

In the Stephen King universe, he has the kind of, like, multiple worlds, different realities. Do we you suspect that maybe Mike Flanagan is kind of playing in that same sort of sandbox where he has maybe two different universes, the story universe, which is where stories like Midnight Mass exist, and his quote unquote real universe, where movies like, hush exist.

 

00:07:43:13 - 00:08:15:18

 

What do you think you're thinking of? I'm confused. So damn it. Okay. I don't understand what you're I don't I don't I don't know what you mean. So it's like, wouldn't it just be like, one universe of, like, Mike Flanagan movies? What are you talking about? But it's like she. But it's like the story of hush would exist outside of one of the universes, because it's the real universe where there is an author who wrote a book called Midnight Mass, and that mass exists in that story.

 

00:08:15:18 - 00:08:42:06

 

Universe. Okay, where? Okay, dude, there's a chance. Sounds good to me. It's like. It's like an inception thing. Kind of. Yeah. It's like levels. Yes. Okay. All right, so what? This, let's say no, no no, no. Did. Danny Danny Danny Danny Danny. I just don't know that big of a brain. So what else would exist in the midnight mass universe?

 

00:08:42:09 - 00:09:10:03

 

Maybe anything with the supernatural. Because there's nothing paranormal about hush. It's very grounded. So maybe. And, guys, I am literally positing things out of thin air. This is based off nothing. Oh, no, I get it. But like me, just maybe anything that kind of dips its toe into the supernatural exists in his story world and anything that doesn't exist in his real world.

 

00:09:10:05 - 00:09:34:15

 

Okay, I'm trying to now think of what Mike Flanagan stories exist that are in, outside. What about what about Oculus? Very much supernatural. Okay. Gerald's Game. Oh, yeah. Okay. But Gerald's Game is a isn't Gerald's Game a Stephen King book? That's a Stephen King book? Yeah. See, that's a whole that's like a and the. Yeah, that's a whole.

 

00:09:34:16 - 00:09:59:11

 

So what, so like these like, Haunting of Hill House, Haunting of Bly Manor. Those ones would all be in the midnight mass world. Well, then, even those are adapted from House of usher. Other novels. Yeah, yeah. So maybe hush is the only one. Maybe. They're all adapted from novels, including Midnight Mass. Maybe he made he made it that way on purpose.

 

00:09:59:15 - 00:10:29:17

 

Yeah, maybe Maddie is the author of all of Flanagan's horror. He had that a lot of forethought, though. Yeah, yeah, he does have some Stephen King books on her bookshelf. I saw Mister Mercedes. I don't know, I can make up case if there were others. Okay. That's the reality I'm going to live in. In my reality, in his filmography, all of his movies are the are based on stories written by Maddie from this movie.

 

00:10:29:19 - 00:10:59:04

 

That's okay. Okay. Speaking of his, filmography, since we're on this, like I thought in my head somewhere that hush was like, his first fucking movie. Oh, like, I didn't realize that Oculus came out before this. I didn't even, like, I just I just know of Oculus. I didn't know that was a mike Flanagan movie. I didn't know, but his first feature he made in the year 2000.

 

00:10:59:06 - 00:11:17:08

 

So he'd been in the business for 16 years before he made hush. So I was like, oh, damn. Definitely not is his first rodeo, if you will. I don't even know if Mike Flanagan knows how to ride a bull.

 

00:11:17:10 - 00:11:42:06

 

So that one, like, took a while. Okay. I had to sit there for a minute before you guys picked up on it. No, I got it right away. Oh, it just wasn't funny. Oh, yeah. Okay, so this is, this is absolutely this. I know he doesn't give up. Before he got into horror, Mike Flanagan was an editor, for RuPaul's Drag Race, and he edited the.

 

00:11:42:06 - 00:12:07:02

 

Oh! Music video for Jealous of My Boogie. Jealous of my boogie. Wow. Oh. Okay. Cool. What is what is, What is jealous of my. Jealous that my brother at the RuPaul's. Yeah. RuPaul is a singer. Oh, she's a singer. She is a philanthropist. She's an. She thinks she's a singer, is a host. She is a goddess.

 

00:12:07:04 - 00:12:30:12

 

Yeah, she's a lot. Okay. Sick. I'm glad you asked. Her music is awful. No. Okay. If it wasn't for not wanting to disrespect the, quality of this movie, I would have a lot of fun. Including a RuPaul song on every hush post on Instagram just to spite Zack. Kind of a bitch or. No. Casey.

 

00:12:30:12 - 00:12:54:22

 

I'm sorry. What? That one. You said it. Sex act just like it's not. Register what I said in real time. Like, slightly delayed. And you're just like your heart. Like, was like, what did I do? Sorry. Anyway, boys. Okay, well, that's cool, I didn't. Yeah, I didn't know that. So, guys, have you ever seen this movie before?

 

00:12:55:00 - 00:13:14:01

 

No. I thought I had seen the whole thing. For some reason. I'd only seen the first half, so knows where I what I was doing with my life. So I, watched it once after Carly told me about it, and I remembered really liking it. And holy cow, I like it so much more than I even remembered.

 

00:13:14:03 - 00:13:36:02

 

Oh, really? Okay. Oh, that's a good friend. Okay. Yeah, it was. It was really cool. There was a part at the end where I got so fucking pissed and I was like, Casey, you dirty dog. I can't believe you did this. That. That would have been. And the potential Casey ending. I was like, what the fuck? I was like, so pissed.

 

00:13:36:04 - 00:14:01:22

 

And then they, like, flipped. And I was like, oh, like this, like, wave of really? By the way, listeners, if this is your first episode, Casey likes her endings. Dark. She likes it. Casey likes her endings like she likes her coffee dark. And, with death. Yes. Dark and tragic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how I season my coffee with tears.

 

00:14:02:00 - 00:14:39:07

 

Yeah. And season the coffee. Yes. Who seasons coffee? Did you guys like the movie? Loved it. Oh, yeah. No, it's a lot of fun. Okay. That's great. It was super suspenseful, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah. This movie is incredibly suspenseful. Boy, oh, boy, I felt I felt scared most of the time. Yeah. Stephen King who Mike Flanagan like, whose novels obviously Mike planning could go on to adapt later in his career after hush, had tweeted about the movie and compared it to movies like Halloween and the, that film Wait Until Dark with Audrey Hepburn.

 

00:14:39:09 - 00:15:06:14

 

Okay, okay. Yeah. Like, the isolated location is pretty cool. Yeah, yeah, just like out in the woods in one house. It's pretty neat. He had said in an interview, I can't remember. It was one of those many horror documentaries. Mike Flanagan had said that he did hush because he had been working in more, higher budget movies and needed to kind of, like, pull it back.

 

00:15:06:14 - 00:15:44:08

 

He needed something similar, story wise, location wise. And then even obviously having someone like his wife, in the lead, and it ended up being obviously a huge success in defining his, this early stage in his career. So it worked out. Yeah. Okay. Well, let's go to this, like, non disclosed location in the woods and, meet the man who.

 

00:15:44:09 - 00:15:51:14

 

Is.

 

00:15:51:16 - 00:15:55:15

 

Really?

 

00:15:55:17 - 00:16:21:09

 

Okay, so, for hush, we have what do we say? Five official reveals? Yes, five official reveal. Five official reveals, and two honorable mention. Two mentions. And Casey, as we mentioned earlier, this was your pick for our masked up triple feature. So please go ahead and read the IMDb synopsis I got. I wasn't prepared for this. Oh, God bless you.

 

00:16:21:11 - 00:16:49:22

 

Oh my God, oh my God. What's this movie called? This is. Oh, shit. Here, I'll read it to you and then you just read it back. No, I repeat after me. Sorry. Dearly beloved. Marriage is what brings us marriage brings together a deaf and mute writer who retreated into the woods. To live a solitary life must fight for her life.

 

00:16:50:00 - 00:17:03:12

 

I don't like that. But that's what it says. A deaf and mute writer who retreated into the woods to live a solitary life must fight for her life in silence. One of my best friend, Jill, is dead.

 

00:17:03:14 - 00:17:19:06

 

Jack is dead. Jack is dead. She woke up in a hospital when she was 13 with meningitis. So, Casey, go on.

 

00:17:19:08 - 00:17:37:21

 

I don't do this to you guys. It seems like every time I'm reading one of these, y'all interrupt the fuck out of me. Roll it back. Well, hush. All right, Jack, hush hush, hush hush hush hush. This movie should have been called shut the fuck up. I shut the fuck up. I'm a deaf and mute writer who retreated into the woods.

 

00:17:37:21 - 00:17:59:06

 

To live a solitary life. Must fight for her life in silence. When a masked killer appears at her window. Okay, pretty good for you. Yeah. Pretty good, pretty good. Yeah. This movie was so good. And, like, it just gets going, like. Yeah, there's not much time to lollygag. I mean, it's not right. Okay, let's up dinner and then.

 

00:17:59:08 - 00:18:12:09

 

Yeah, there's more fat on that meat in the stove than there is on this movie. Yeah, yeah. I was wondering, like, can she read? Oh, yeah.

 

00:18:12:11 - 00:18:18:06

 

Because she fucked up the recipe so bad.

 

00:18:18:07 - 00:18:27:05

 

Like, isn't you supposed to be deaf? Not blind. Yeah.

 

00:18:27:07 - 00:18:59:09

 

No. You know why she burned the fucking food? It's because of her stupid neighbor, Sarah. Yeah. No. Before that, she taste it and she, like, winces. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well she's a writer okay. Not a cook. So. Yeah. So you could kind of put this together in her backstory. She was with that dude Craig. Right. And so they were maybe you were together for a while and maybe like like, fuck, I didn't think anybody would catch that.

 

00:18:59:11 - 00:19:36:01

 

Hey, maybe. So sorry. No. Okay, so. So she was with that Craig guy for what? Could be years, right? And maybe he was a cook. No. Mean, like a cook, but maybe he did the cooking. And now she's, like, living on her own, and she had to, like, learn to cook. And so she's, like, trying, you know, there's a learning curve when you're when you're cooking, you can still read mean, fuck you.

 

00:19:36:03 - 00:20:00:10

 

But I still do blame Sarah quite a bit because for the burning. Yeah, she has stuck outside. Although Maddie could have said, hey, come inside. I'm cooking for, like, hold on a second. I have food, cooking? Yeah, they're even talking about it, so it's not like she completely forgot. Yeah, in all fairness, was making. Sarah was, like, about to talk about how much she liked her book.

 

00:20:00:12 - 00:20:07:16

 

She's like, Oh, yeah. Priorities. Yeah.

 

00:20:07:18 - 00:20:35:13

 

Okay, so we have five official reveals for hush, and, our first one comes pretty quickly right towards the beginning of the movie. Maddie is throwing away her dinner, which she just completely destroyed. And meanwhile, Sarah is being completely destroyed, right? Right outside her window. Kill us. Throwing away her life, I think. Do you think she's destroyed worse than the dinner?

 

00:20:35:13 - 00:20:54:05

 

Or do you think that Maddie fucked up the dinner, so. Oh, I don't know. She fuck that dinner up. She did like it was. She did. It was bad. So you're saying if you had the option to either be the dinner that's being thrown out or Sarah, she's being stabbed to death and ignored Sarah inadvertently. Mind you, ignoring your best friend.

 

00:20:54:05 - 00:21:16:16

 

You'd rather be Sarah. Yeah, yeah, I think so. Wasted because at least he lived a good wasted so much food. Yeah. Maddie. Yeah. Terrible. Gross. Didn't really stand. Sarah didn't get burned. Sarah didn't get burned alive? Yeah. What if she did? What if, like, as we just didn't hear, like, as Sarah's being stabbed. He's like. He's like, yeah.

 

00:21:16:18 - 00:21:28:01

 

He's just insulting her in, like, little ways, but she's getting roasted. Yeah.

 

00:21:28:03 - 00:21:46:11

 

It's like. It's like a parody movie. Like, I don't know, scary movie or something where it's like he's trying to get her attention and like, the stabbing her neighbor didn't work. So, like, that's run by her. She's like, is this kids at school? And he's like, what? Like who? She just keeps finding different ways to be distracted. Yeah, that.

 

00:21:46:13 - 00:22:01:20

 

Yeah. I think future by the by the way, I think he shoots her with the crossbow first. Oh and she's running to the door. He shoots her with the crossbow. And then I think she ran to the door. And then he stabbed her. Yeah. Which I'm bringing that up because the crossbow, you know, it's gonna come becomes important.

 

00:22:01:21 - 00:22:25:23

 

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that crossbow is, I guess, really hard to use. I've never used the cross. Oh, yeah, but, yeah, they're really hard to. So have you ever used a bow in general. Yeah. I wasn't good at it. So they have weights right. Oh I haven't used that kind of bow. Okay. So bows have weights. So like depending on your size and your both like set weights depending on your size.

 

00:22:26:01 - 00:22:48:20

 

Chuck Norris the fucking spokesperson for Bowflex. Oh was he. Well he was also played the killer in this movie. But if he took the mask off is Chuck Norris. Maddie, if you like, just kill me. And I said, it's just he just. She just keels over and dies. Just like him taking his mask off. Okay. Casey, both have weights.

 

00:22:48:22 - 00:23:08:22

 

So depending on, like, your size and your strength, you know, it's a pull. Like, when you pull it, it has a different weight to it. I don't know, crossbows are exactly the same, but assuming that they do have some sort of weight to them, like his, it would be set for his weight. Like his strength. Okay, so it would make sense that she wouldn't be able to do it in general.

 

00:23:09:04 - 00:23:31:01

 

Alone. Oh, I thought you meant there was like, fucking, like little weights on the bow. No, no, it's like it's like a little dumbbell. Gotcha. It's called the weight of the string. Okay, I don't know. Makes sense for things, but yeah, I was picturing, like, the weight machine where it's like, you can, like, pick your level and you stupid.

 

00:23:31:01 - 00:23:50:17

 

Oh, yeah. She. Since. Yeah. So, yeah, that's our first reveal. I mean, the killer just comes right up to the door, and you're really surprised because Maddie can't see or hear anything that's going on behind her. Or. I mean, why can't she see? Well, it's just because she couldn't hear, I guess. And so that's why she didn't know she's on my side.

 

00:23:50:17 - 00:24:17:17

 

No. You know, her other her other, senses should be heightened. Oh, yeah. Yeah, she should be able to see behind her at all times. She should be able to read a recipe. Yeah. We're going to keep coming back to that, aren't we? Yeah. Sorry, Danny. And then we do have, Well, first of all, before I move on, his masked since this is our masked up triple feature.

 

00:24:17:17 - 00:24:39:01

 

Yeah. He's got a really fucking creepy mask. It is creepy because it, So it kind of. It looks like dead flesh. Almost like it's still very human. Right? But it's kind of like greenish gray. Sure. Do we think he made it so it looks like dead? Yeah. I think he's the kind of guy that would make it to.

 

00:24:39:01 - 00:25:04:21

 

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, Casey, can you give us a quick, like, 101 on how someone might make something like that? So for him, I'm not 100% sure. Well, his looks like flexible. No. Okay. Right. So like. Yeah, it it looks like it would have been made out of latex, I'm assuming. But yeah. So you'd have to stop it and make a mold and then.

 

00:25:04:23 - 00:25:24:03

 

Okay, put latex. Maybe he's a horror enthusiast. Maybe he kind of gets his rocks off by, like, she's a horror writer, you know? Oh, like, that would be the ultimate, like, kill the final boss, so to speak. Like the final boss is the good. Yeah, I guess they never say, like, it's just, it's just like, you you're the one here kind of thing, right?

 

00:25:24:03 - 00:25:41:01

 

Yeah. It wasn't like he was doing it on for some reason. Like he was out to get her specifically right. And he has the notches on the thing, too. So he just. Yeah. Yeah, he feels a little theatrical, you know, because he does. Spoiler alert he takes his mask off fairly quickly. So it's not like it's not about anonymity.

 

00:25:41:01 - 00:25:59:12

 

I mean, maybe it is in a sense. Well and like we'll get there but like yeah. But also it's like it feels like he enjoys the rush of this. Oh you know the, the build up in this shirt. So it gives you a little like inkling of like who he is and like why he does what he does without spelling it out.

 

00:25:59:14 - 00:26:17:16

 

Yeah. Yeah. Well like he said we'll get there. So I won't talk too much about it. But like, I don't think he was planning to take off his mask. Oh yeah. Oh I just don't want to talk about it yet. Yeah, that's the whole part. Yeah, yeah. Moving on. All right. We got an honorable mention. Yeah, we do have an honorable mention.

 

00:26:17:18 - 00:26:37:06

 

Right after this is, Maddie is on the phone with her sister and, it's like a FaceTime because they're doing sign language, and her, her sister notices something move behind her, and she's like, who's over there? Like, I just saw something move, and Maddie was like, oh, it's probably just, the cat because it's a bitch.

 

00:26:37:06 - 00:27:01:12

 

Because she got out just like roast. It's like just bubbling and it's like, And so that was an honorable mention. So that's, not an official reveal, but right after that comes our second and probably. Yeah, well, I don't I don't want to save from for all of us. But our most important reveal. No, I'll make a bold claim right off the bat.

 

00:27:01:13 - 00:27:22:15

 

So what her sister had seen was dude coming in to steal her phone, and, so she starts getting text messages on her computer of, like, images of her sitting in her chair. In that moment. And that's so creepy. It is creepy. I love it for the movie, but I hate it for real life. Yeah. Oh, my God, that is so creepy.

 

00:27:22:17 - 00:27:49:21

 

And then, like, she looks slowly over to where the pictures are, like the perspective of where the picture is coming from. And, goes to the door. And the man who is, he's credited as is, standing right there. Yeah. It's so good. Yeah, but she does stop him. He does try to get in. This is supposed to be like a quick kill, and he realizes that Maddie is, not one to be trifled with.

 

00:27:49:23 - 00:28:06:01

 

I don't want to trifle with Maddie. Yeah, I trifle with her. Especially if she's making a trifle, because she's probably. Yeah, because she's going to suck it up. It's. I really want to trifle with this lady. I don't know how to trifle with her. And then she sees him. He's like, damn it, I got to trifle with her.

 

00:28:06:03 - 00:28:24:19

 

Let's do hit. What a stupid word. I know you're travelin good for nothing type. But, brother, that's what I think of all that's the child song. Anyway, so he didn't really want to trifle with her. But now he's traveling. So now he's traveling straight on a horse. They're going to trifle each other throughout the rest of this movie.

 

00:28:24:21 - 00:28:43:09

 

So then, they kind of cool it a little bit, right? She writes the stuff on the window. Well, he pops her tires, too, so, like. Yeah, he he lashes her tires, so she can't. She's being he's closing her in to this, already isolated space. Yeah. She gets money. He he cuts the power and the Wi-Fi.

 

00:28:43:10 - 00:29:01:00

 

Yes. Yeah, she gets a little sick. She writes, something about, like, I didn't see your face. She says, don't worry about it. Oh, you have it? Sure it won't tell. Didn't see face. Boyfriend coming. Right. And then and she holds the flashlight up to it. He's big and he plays football. Yeah. Kick the shit out of you.

 

00:29:01:02 - 00:29:19:20

 

His name wouldn't happen to be Steve would it. Dude when she's holding the flashlight to the thing and then he just like peekaboo. Yeah. You like pops out and like out of nowhere and sticks his head in the window, I, I can jump. That's scary. But now that he's here, he it says, you know, she wrote on the window, didn't see face.

 

00:29:20:00 - 00:29:39:03

 

And this is our third reveal where he's like, fuck you. You're going to see my face. Yeah. And he removes his mask and we're probably like, I don't know what. 20 minutes into the movie. 15 minutes into the movie. Yeah. And he takes his mask off. And I did not expect this to be a newsroom sequel.

 

00:29:39:05 - 00:30:06:15

 

Wait, yeah, I thought that was going to go over. Better. Wait. Newsroom. As in Jeff Daniels, this show, the newsroom or Broadcast news or John Gallagher Jr, the guy who plays the villain in this movie is one of the central characters in The Newsroom on HBO. Wait, really? Yeah. He's like the young. He's like the youngest. Sarah got some deep cuts that that was a deep cut.

 

00:30:06:17 - 00:30:31:02

 

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And to move on from that, we don't need to talk about that. There's no way we don't have diehard newsroom fans listening to one one that we have. We have that one person who watched The Newsroom, and it's Aaron Sorkin. He's like, got it, got it. No. But he's so like, I was like, I was like, oh, is that you know, is that fucking newsroom dude?

 

00:30:31:04 - 00:31:01:13

 

And it is newsroom, dude. And so yeah. So that was cool. Our third reveal, he removes his mask. Makes me watch the newsroom again. Was I. I love this part. I think that it is super badass even though it's, like, horrible. He's a killer. But, I love that he was just like. Yeah, like you said earlier, I don't think he was intending to remove his mask, but now he's like letting her know I'm not leaving.

 

00:31:01:15 - 00:31:22:22

 

Yeah, for sure. I'm not going anywhere. The only funny thing about it is that he's breathing out of his mouth after he takes his mask off, so kind of looks like a little bit of a dork, but endured. Yeah. He's like, I'm going to come in and kill you with my crossbow.

 

00:31:23:00 - 00:31:39:18

 

She just signs the sign for dork. He's like. He's like, I know what that means. What that means is the typical going, like, sign language like. And then, yeah, like, but by then she's already, like, escaped, like, boom, roasted.

 

00:31:39:20 - 00:32:04:20

 

She. That's the end of the movie. That's her arc as she finally has a successful roast. Yeah. And it's it's tearing the killer apart with comedy. Yeah. And she lives to see another day. Yeah. And he asks if she can read his lips, and so she he's, Yeah. Talking shit to her. Dude. Hurt like. I mean, his performance is great in this too, but her performance is, you know, man, it's really.

 

00:32:04:20 - 00:32:33:02

 

Yeah. Yeah. Well, because it's got. I mean, obviously none of us are actors, but it's got to be tough to sort of to remove such an important sense and like, that's how you present yourself as a performance as an actor. So to eliminate. Yeah, such a major part of that. And then to kind of have to hone in on the other elements to kind of make it just as effective, if not more effective of a performance is, it's it's it's very impressive.

 

00:32:33:07 - 00:33:02:03

 

Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. She's really good. But I love the fact that she grabs two weapons. So you have the knife and a hammer. Yeah. And I was like, damn, you'll all the old chop and smash chopping block chopping chop, mash, hack and hack and slash hacky sack that sent the hack into. So new Jersey, Hackensack. So she's, like, kind of hiding and trying to figure out what his plan is out there.

 

00:33:02:05 - 00:33:18:16

 

Is this where she hears the knocking on the door? Yes. This is one of the most disturbing parts of the movie. Well, she doesn't she doesn't hear the knocking on the window, but yeah. Why was it the killer, though, like, knew at this point that she is. I'm sure it's not at the forefront of his mind. He's.

 

00:33:18:16 - 00:33:40:22

 

You know, I mean, he's done this before, right? So he's not. Yeah. You know, but you know, so he's not thinking like, oh, this woman's step. He's just thinking, oh I got torment her. But that's true. It is really creepy because like, things like that are still working because of other. Right. Like she can feel things. Right. So she could have felt the the vibration from the tapping.

 

00:33:41:04 - 00:33:59:12

 

She sees the shadow. Well, that's that was like I almost put that as a reveal. It's because she's like sitting against the wall, but like next to the window. And she looks over and sees the shadow of him, like, come up to the window and then like, start knocking on it. But she looks and it's him holding Sarah's dead body.

 

00:33:59:13 - 00:34:17:07

 

Yeah, like tapping her head. It's creepy. I don't know if he's tapping her head or hand against her hand. I think it's I think it's the hand. Yeah. Oh, it was cool. I was like, oh, it was. It's really creepy. This movie is so good at being, like, tense. Like, it's a very, very much like an edge of your seat and a movie and I really.

 

00:34:17:07 - 00:34:41:16

 

Yeah. For that, I feel like we would be remiss to not point out the fact that Mike Flanagan is known for using a sort of, kind of repertory theater approach to filmmaking. When he does his shows in his movies where he'll he'll cast actors who you've seen in The Newsroom, his previous projects. Yeah, it's all actors in the newsroom.

 

00:34:41:17 - 00:35:01:19

 

Yeah, actually, Maddie's played by Jeff Daniels, and it's a scene like a career defining. That's how he transforms. Yeah, yeah, he plays the rose in the Rose to actually, you just. You never know. He's so good at acting that, like, you watch it and you think you're seeing Kate Siegel and then, like, what? It's over. It's a Jeff Daniels, and you're like, what?

 

00:35:01:19 - 00:35:26:06

 

And you go back and watch it. And it's very clearly Jack Daniels. Like, how did my brain even. But it was just going to point out that, Samantha Sloan. And I hope I'm not I think I'm not butchering the name, but Samantha Sloan, who plays, Sarah. Sarah, you've seen and, actually is in season is in Midnight Mass.

 

00:35:26:06 - 00:35:54:01

 

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Among other flagging faults. Sure. Oh, that's what I still have not seen that one. I know I won't spoil anything. I know that she's known. I feel like she's a huge stand out in midnight mass. I mean, they're all incredible in every one of the projects, but I think my favorite of her performances is actually as Tamerlane usher in the fall of the House of usher O'Brien's Midnight Mass, especially rewatching it.

 

00:35:54:01 - 00:36:12:04

 

Yeah, she is an awful. She's crazy. Yeah. And I know that I kind of talked about it. Sorry not to stray too much. Talked about a little. Texted you guys a little bit on Monday, but like midnight mass. Dude, it's so cute. Like, I don't I don't I'm not going to say this to shit on other movies.

 

00:36:12:06 - 00:36:38:03

 

But I just recently watched the new, Salem's Lot adaptation, and, you know, I'll, I'm this is not a crit critique podcast. I'm going to hold. I'm going to hold my thoughts. What I will say is, you know, you take a book like Salem's Lot, which is all about a town. It's not I mean, it's about the vampires, but it's about a town being destroyed essentially from within, from like an outsider.

 

00:36:38:05 - 00:37:01:14

 

And you obviously it's tough to sort of portray that and really get the whole atmosphere of what the book is going for in a two hour movie. Which is why if you're listening to this and you have seen neither Midnight Mass nor Salem's Lot, but you've read Salem's Lot and you really love it, go watch Midnight Mass if you want that, because that is probably the closest thing to a sort of Salem's Lot adaptation.

 

00:37:01:16 - 00:37:26:11

 

Book has its own story. Like, I'm not going to say that it is like, does that make sense? What I'm trying to say? Like, yeah, it's just very effective about a town, an outsider comes into this town, disrupts cleanup a little bit. It's, it's a perfect show. This it is a perfect show. Midnight mass is a perfect show because Cody, you know, talked to my brother about it, and he that he thought it was boring.

 

00:37:26:11 - 00:37:46:18

 

He watched, like, two episodes of it, and I'm like, even those episodes where they just. There's just that dialog like. Yeah, still just so good. And it's like enthralling. And it just keeps you. And yeah, especially knowing the payoff. Like, yeah, all of those episodes, even if they are slow moving, like everything comes back into play. Yes. In the second half.

 

00:37:46:18 - 00:38:09:18

 

Yeah, yeah. It's it's the opposite of the roast in this movie. That was a quick burn. Midnight. Yes. It's very much a slow burn. And this is its greatest strength because Mike Flanagan's just so good at atmosphere and characters. So yeah. And we get we get that in hush too. Yes. So yeah, he's at the window. Oh, she gets him with the hammer.

 

00:38:09:19 - 00:38:35:22

 

She, Does she cut his hand? I just wrote slams his fingers, staff slams his fingers, she slams his fingers and then he hits him, like, right here in the arm. Like it's forearm. Okay. With the plot of the hammer? Yeah. So you get some good shots on him? She's really. Yeah. She can't make a roast, but she can fight off a home invasion.

 

00:38:36:00 - 00:38:55:10

 

Guys, can I say one quick thing? Of course. Yeah. This isn't a spoiler alert but like it is she went anyway I've seen the movie. But I would if they brought it back. Like when she kills him. Maybe it's a budget thing. Maybe this is the plan. Maybe this a deleted scene somewhere. But what if, like at the end, she just.

 

00:38:55:12 - 00:39:18:00

 

Instead of stabbing him, she sets him on fire, but then, like, puts him out, and then she just, like, looks at it like she looks at the camera and is like, job well done because it's like, oh, well done roast. And she's like, I'm a rare breed. It's like rare. Is she like cleaning? Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. And she's like, job well done.

 

00:39:18:00 - 00:39:35:17

 

And then cut to black and stuff. Well done. That's my best bit I think. I think it's the best bit I've ever done. She's reading like her cookbook and she burns the food whatever. But then like, she burns him at the end and then you see the cookbook and it says, like, how to kill a home invader, I got it.

 

00:39:35:18 - 00:39:55:00

 

My jokes are awful. It's not great. They're got that great. Oh, my God, that's you. No, you're giving jokes that will inspire the scary movie satire spin off. Like that would be that scene. Yeah, I.

 

00:39:55:02 - 00:40:11:11

 

Yeah. So she's outside. Why does she go back in? Because she realizes she can't go and she can't do that. Gotcha. Okay. Because she's like, then she goes up on the roof. Yeah. You know, she's outside under the crawlspace and she's thinking for a minute to go in, and. No, there's no way to get out of this.

 

00:40:11:13 - 00:40:36:10

 

Is that the. The voice inside her head sounds like it's. She smells. It sounds like she says it sounds like her mom sounds like this is your mother. Then what do you do then? You get out of here. Maddie. You're like, yeah, Maddie, there's no escape. Maddie! Give up. Go back inside and go like, go.

 

00:40:36:12 - 00:40:41:13

 

Go out through the upstairs window.

 

00:40:41:15 - 00:41:13:00

 

And then. And go out on the roof. Maddie. Climb down. Climb down. Don't give up, sweetie. You could do it. You, you could do it. I don't know where that voice came from either. Just, Oh, I think it's absolutely perfect. Great. The reason that I. Another reason that I love this is because, like, it's not two, it's very even keeled as far as, like, you know, she's smart, but she's not like, she's so vulnerable.

 

00:41:13:01 - 00:41:29:12

 

Right? She's smart, but she's not making every, you know, she's not doing everything perfectly, you know, like she's still making mistakes. You still. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. Like, because when you're in that situation, you're not going to be able to fucking think straight. Probably. So, you know, no matter how smart you are, you're still going to make mistakes.

 

00:41:29:12 - 00:41:46:21

 

You're not going to most people not be able to just yeah, find themselves in the situation and do everything the way that it should be done or the best way. I mean, but it's cool though, because she does have like she's because she's stuck in the house and he's like, just like walking the perimeter of the house. Like she does have time to think, right?

 

00:41:46:23 - 00:42:02:23

 

Like different plans. But then when she's in those moments, it's then enough time to think. But but that is I think that's another thing that's cool is that she's like, okay. She's it's not just like he's in the house and she's like, where is he? Right. And then they use the. Yeah, because but they use that as him taunting her.

 

00:42:03:00 - 00:42:32:01

 

Right. But it's actually an advantage to her because it's giving her time to plan their time. Right. Right. Yeah. And I was going to say they they tie that back later because of the fact that she is a writer and she talks about how she struggles with her endings. So there's like always multiple endings. But like you said, she hasn't she hasn't quite reached a point yet in the story where she is like stopping to breathe and being a little bit more conscientious of how she's dealing with it.

 

00:42:32:03 - 00:42:54:00

 

You know, she it's like she like you said, like he's giving her time through the taunting. Well, how can you, you know, use that to your advantage. And she uses what skills she does have, which in this case is crafting story to, like, actually help her. But like you said, like, to your point, she is vulnerable. It's not like she just figures that out.

 

00:42:54:00 - 00:43:16:04

 

It's not till the climax where, like, shit has gone so real. She. It's literally life or death. Yeah. And she uses. Yeah, she she does whatever she can. Yeah, yeah. Oh. So now she has the crossbow. She has the crossbow? Yeah. And this is where she can't like, she can't load it because she can't pull it back.

 

00:43:16:06 - 00:43:45:03

 

She's not strong enough to pull back because it's weighted. That's the thing that I know that I didn't just learn today I knew that all along. It's weighted. And so she can't, she can't pull it back. Yeah. She's also injured. Yeah. Yeah. Her hands all messed up. And but then okay so this brings us to our fourth reveal John who is Sarah's the neighbor Sarah who we lost at the beginning.

 

00:43:45:03 - 00:44:10:06

 

Rest in peace. That's John is her husband or boyfriend or something. And, he comes over looking for Sarah. And this is where John meets the killer on the porch. Right? But the killer pretends to be a police officer, and John is just like, okay, which I guess you can't blame. Like, in that situation, you'd probably do the same thing.

 

00:44:10:08 - 00:44:38:21

 

Yeah, but he's still very. He still is weary. Yeah, he's. He doesn't know. He doesn't know he's the killer. Yeah. Right. But he's not 100% in that. This guy's a police officer. You know. He's like all right. He's kind of questioning like, cool. Why did you do this and why did you do that? Then if you're a cop and because the killer had previously stolen Sarah's earring for some reason, he ends up dropping it on the porch, and, John sees it, and he's like, that's.

 

00:44:38:21 - 00:44:57:02

 

Sarah's carrying you, motherfucker. Why does she. Why does he take the earring? Do you think he maybe collects like, little tokens? It's probably like, lot of because of that. Yeah, because, you know, like, Casey had mentioned earlier, like, the marks on his crossbow. Yeah, he probably just is, like. It's like, taking the hunted deer.

 

00:44:57:02 - 00:45:18:09

 

He would take the antlers. It's hunting. Yeah. It's exactly. These people are just his deer. He's like oh deer. They're like he's like they're such good actors that he thinks they're deer played by Jeff Daniels. He's just.

 

00:45:18:11 - 00:45:48:17

 

Jeff Daniels is every role in this movie including the animals. It's like the Eddie Murphy commercials from back in the day. It's like Eddie Murphy is Eddie Murphy is Eddie Murphy is Eddie Murphy. Yeah, yeah. Starring Jeff Daniels, Jeff Daniels, Jeff Daniels, and as Mandy, Jeff Daniels. Oh my God. So, yeah, that's our fourth official reveal. John meets the killer on the porch, and,

 

00:45:48:19 - 00:46:13:04

 

Oh, my God, like, I hate it, I hate it, I hate it, I hate it when this happens in movies, when the person who's about to be saved comes and tries to get the attention of the Savior. The Savior, save the Savior, and then they get fucking killed. Oh my God, I hate it so much. I love it.

 

00:46:13:05 - 00:46:35:02

 

Surprise. I hate it so much that, like, almost in this next moment where we think she died, it's like I would have been, like, fucking good. Good for you. Good for you, killer man. No. But, so John gets stabbed or, like, he gets his throat. Oh, yeah. The killer, like, stabs him in the throat.

 

00:46:35:05 - 00:47:02:10

 

Yep. And, he he puts up a good fight, though. He keeps going for a minute. Yeah, yeah. He's trying real hard. And he gives her like he, like she can read lips. So he says like run to her and she can see him say so she like takes off. But then the killer who clearly finished off John like Danny don't don't be dirty Danny.

 

00:47:02:12 - 00:47:37:03

 

So the killer who clearly just jacked off John, comes and tackles Mattie and just smashes her head in with a rock. And I was so mad. Yeah, you're just, like, very upset. I was like, what the fuck? And then, luckily, luckily, this is this brings it back to what Danny, I think you were mentioning earlier about how she plays all these different scenarios, like in her head because she is a writer, so she like, has all these ideas and she's like, oh, if I do that, that's what's going to happen.

 

00:47:37:05 - 00:47:54:21

 

And then if I do this, that's going to happen. And she goes through a bunch of different scenarios and it's such a great way to set up a climax to a movie because she has that in her dialog. So she's literally talking to herself, and she mentions that there's only one ending that you won't expect. There's only one ending that you want to call one night.

 

00:47:55:02 - 00:48:03:00

 

Mattie, are you listening? Maddie. Hello? You got to fight, man.

 

00:48:03:02 - 00:48:22:10

 

I don't know why. Like picturing. Not only does she have an inner voice, but, like, in her mind, the space is kind of like, filled with smoke. Seeing range. No, I picture, like, a boxing ring, and. And her mom is, like, in her corner, like the, what's the what's his name from, like, Mickey and Mickey? Yeah, from, Rocky.

 

00:48:22:10 - 00:48:47:23

 

Rocky. And every time Maddie is slow down, she just goes down and she says, like, her arms are on the ropes, hit her mom's, just, like, rubbing her shoulders. Yeah, you gotta fight, Maddie. You gotta fight Maddie. I'm actually picturing Mrs. Big Head from Rocko's Modern Life as mom, so, she's not even human. That's weird. Yeah, that explains why she probably struggles cooking.

 

00:48:47:23 - 00:49:13:19

 

Because she's part cartoon character. Yeah. Oh, God. Rocko. Oh, you thought of Rocky. You thought of Rocky. Oh my God, oh my God, look at that. Mickey, Mickey and Rocco. Oh, good. So there's a spin off here. And really, she just looks like Dwayne Johnson, right? Man, my jokes are fucking fire, too. They hold on him like fire the Rocko.

 

00:49:13:21 - 00:49:43:14

 

Yeah, that's what Dwayne The Rock Johnson, the rock. Rocky rock. Yeah. Danny. Thank you. That's. I said it. It was so bad, Danny had to talk himself into it like he get it. Yeah. So she is going to. She said that to kill him. She's like, that's the only thing. Oh, she goes to the bathroom and he comes back behind number one because she can't look clearly she's Jeff Daniels.

 

00:49:43:14 - 00:50:02:14

 

She's going number two. That's great. That's number three. That's a number three and a half. What did she eat? Some of her meal that she cooked though. She had the laxative. Yeah. Oh because she ate the meal she had to take the laxatives. Got. Yeah. It's not always this. She's like, it's a home invasion. She's like, fuck, I just took a laxative.

 

00:50:02:16 - 00:50:23:03

 

That is a great movie. That is a great movie. Where do you how do you find the time during. Oh, you've got a it's a race against your ass. Basically. It's a, it's a race against a lot of this. She sits herself in the in the killer is just like oh okay, okay. Fuck. That is disgusting. Oh, but maybe that's the ending where the killer slips on it.

 

00:50:23:05 - 00:50:45:02

 

Yeah. And she gets the upper hand and she's like, wow, it looks like you've stumbled into a shitty situation. Kills what? It has to be like a plunger, right? Like. Yes. Like be. Yeah, yeah. It's like, dude. Yeah, exactly. By the way, that is a reference to our previous episode and, our messed up triple feature, Phantom of the Paradise Tricked out.

 

00:50:45:04 - 00:51:07:12

 

All right, so, yeah, she goes into the back not to do number one or 2 or 3. Yeah. So and she's like, does she have the crossbow now? And she's like ready to go. And she leans up against the balcony. You see him like lower down behind her from the ceiling somehow. Oh my God, I was about to be so pissed.

 

00:51:07:12 - 00:51:28:14

 

I was like, are you fucking kidding me? But then I was so pissed because she feels him breathing on the back of her neck, turns around, stabs him, and then just runs away. Yeah, she just took a I mean, yes and no. Is she? It's a rookie move, but it's not. She didn't necessarily think that she killed him, but she was like, well I stalled him for a little bit.

 

00:51:28:14 - 00:51:46:18

 

I might as well try to get a little further. Oh yeah. Why don't you just kill him, though? Because you still could have overpowered her. Well, here's the thing. She's a horror novelist. She's not a horror movie fan. Horror movie fans would know is true, but she writes books, so the only like I. The only way I could justify it.

 

00:51:46:18 - 00:52:01:13

 

Like my, like, being like, why didn't she do this? Because her hand was all fucked up. Well, yeah. So like, she couldn't, like he couldn't show it to her. That's the point of the crossbow. Yeah. Because you can have distance between yourself and somebody else. Yeah. With the crossbow. She could have made sure, you know what I mean.

 

00:52:01:13 - 00:52:19:05

 

But, like. Yeah, she stabbed him and didn't incapacitate him. He still could have done something to her. Yeah. So I don't necessarily think that that was a bad move. Yeah. I guess into her. Okay. Let's in all fairness, like, she was caught so off guard because she was in a space of like. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Protected space. Yeah.

 

00:52:19:05 - 00:52:40:03

 

Yeah. Speaking of her, like not having time to think like. Yeah. She feels that breath on the back of her neck. This is like, oh my God. Oh that was I mean, that was a cool fucking scene though. And so they continue to fight now in the living room. Right. They're like yep. Struggling. And he's choking her out and she like, she's about to die.

 

00:52:40:03 - 00:53:05:15

 

She hears her fish mom in her head and, is not thinking that he's not okay. Mom. Not today, not today. Oh, don't do it. And I was so happy that the corkscrew came back into play because earlier in the movie, there's, like, some foreshadowing with her leaving it on the thing on the table, but, like, it's not a central part of the shot.

 

00:53:05:15 - 00:53:21:09

 

It's just like there. And I was like, ooh, that corkscrew is going to come back. And then it did. Not so excited. Oh, but it did. And then it really did. And came back and she stabbed him in the neck. She stabbed him in the neck. Right. She stabbed him. Three guys. I hate to keep stopping us. Daniel.

 

00:53:21:11 - 00:53:38:00

 

I feel like I'm in another world today, so I apologize. I am blaming myself. So you can't be mad at me. We missed. I think we skipped it. Right? I think we skipped it. I can't be mad at you. We skipped our fifth and final reveal. Okay, if it helps, it comes right after she does the whole thing.

 

00:53:38:00 - 00:53:58:08

 

Like only one ending. You won't expect. Okay. Oh, we're that far back, though. Yeah, it. I like it's when bitch meets the man. Yeah. Oh that's right bitch. The who is it a cat or a dog? It's a cat. It's cat. Dog. I expected the movie one time. Open up. Her baby was born. Of course there are. No.

 

00:53:58:10 - 00:54:25:01

 

We wouldn't know if that frog was a P99. Little cat dog, cat cat. Oh, look at how nice I was. Right? Maddie, that was wonderful. But not the time. Anyway, listeners, this is a gift. Okay. So, yeah, this is where bitch the cat dog meets the man. That's what. That's what stops him in his tracks is like cat fucking cat dog meat.

 

00:54:25:06 - 00:54:54:10

 

What the fuck you think she comes in for? Behind and plunges? Yeah. Does he kill him? So you'll get. No, no, the bitch survives. And, That's it, that's it, that's it, that's it. We're going a little read. Tarantino that ending with Tarantino, the ending. But, yeah. Okay. So, guys, that's it. That is hush from 2016, written by Mike Flanagan and Kate Siegel, directed by Mike Flanagan.

 

00:54:54:10 - 00:55:17:03

 

So good. So good. I'm glad you guys liked it. Yes. Thank you for this recommendation. This is this is awesome. And really good to, I know you chose the messed up triple feature, sort of sort of like an entry point into Halloween without being like a Halloween movie, but this is the perfect type of movie, in my opinion, to watch.

 

00:55:17:04 - 00:55:54:18

 

You know, like if you're throwing on a horror movie in the background, maybe you got some friends over. This is the type of movie you throw on because it's very limited dialog, lots of action, very atmospheric visuals. It's quick, it's tight. Yeah. Yeah. You know, speaking of, movies, friends. Yeah. We've got one coming up on it'll be a live watch along on October 17th, there will be a full moon and there will be full, it full will be full of excitement because we'll be watching shopping mall.

 

00:55:54:20 - 00:56:30:18

 

That's right. Yeah. So if you want to join us, find us on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and you'll find the link, for our watch along. Well, now it is time to choose our favorite monster reveals in hush. Oh. Oh, there. I don't believe anyone. That's how they can do their under the goddamn foreign.

 

00:56:30:20 - 00:56:58:00

 

So speed round recap. Here we go. Number one, the killer gets Sarah outside the kitchen door. Number two, Maddie gets the photos on her computer, and she sees the man at the door. Number three. The man removes his mask. Number four. John meets the killer on the porch, when he drops Sarah's earring and number five, bitch, the cat dog meets the man.

 

00:56:58:02 - 00:57:23:07

 

What is your favorite reveal in us? Casey, why don't you go first? Since this was your pick? Mine is the one where the man takes off his mask. Okay. Yeah, it's probably my favorite part of the movie. Yeah, because he just, you know, he's, He's letting her know. She just got real. Yep. Danny, I fear is actually the first reveal with Sarah when he kills her.

 

00:57:23:09 - 00:57:51:09

 

Okay. I thought it was just really scary. Yeah. Happened so suddenly. I really didn't just I, you know, you I don't know when you think of a movie that has an isolated setting, it's it's essentially a single setting movie. So those are hard, you know, to tell a story in that because there's you're so you're so limited. So it would be you would be forgiven to set your story up as a very, very much like a slow burn.

 

00:57:51:11 - 00:58:16:07

 

You know, you're just kind of constantly just building that dread, which the movie does, but it does it in a way that is, it's also the cat and mouse elements have the kick start really quickly. So that really caught me off guard, you know, really pleasantly surprising way. So, yeah. Yeah, just between just the way, the way she's killed, the way her friend is not there, the way we're introduced to him, the way it's so sudden.

 

00:58:16:12 - 00:58:41:22

 

It's like the end of what might have been like a little screamer as chase sequence. But we're just seeing the the kind of the climax of it, right? Yeah. Really? Oh, and do you like to be Sarah? Yeah. Trying to get Maddie's attention, knowing that she's deaf and just like, oh my God. Yeah. Horrible. Yeah. That's rough.

 

00:58:42:00 - 00:59:06:11

 

Could that kind of that kind of, makes me think so. That was a good pitch. I really love when we first see him. When she. When he sends her the pictures. Just because it's so creepy. But I think ultimately I'm going to go with bitch. The cat dog meets the man. No, I'm saying, like, just kidding.

 

00:59:06:13 - 00:59:29:18

 

No. Let's go with the sequel. It expands the universe. I'm going to go with, when the man removes his mask. Just because I wasn't expecting him to take it off so soon. And just like the fact that she was like, I didn't see you. And he was like, well, you're gonna suck. You did. Because. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that just gave me the creeps.

 

00:59:29:20 - 00:59:50:04

 

Yeah. It's not like she witnessed an accidental murder. He's. He's just, like, killing train. He's just there. Yeah. You know, plow through and kill whatever he can. Yeah, a kill train. Is that what I called it? A kill to kill train? Like I. I said it as though like that's like, you know, like a kill train. Oh, yeah.

 

00:59:50:06 - 01:00:15:08

 

And my head was like, interesting. He didn't say killing machine on the train. Okay. Next stop on the kill train. You went with us due to that type of machinery. It's thing. Oh, God. Okay, well, now it is time for a segment that we like to call the real monster.

 

01:00:15:10 - 01:00:38:12

 

Run, run, run as fast as you can. Catch me. I'm the gingerbread man. You're a monster. I'm not the monster. Here you are. You and the rest of that fairy tale trash poisoning my perfect world. Now tell me, where are the others? Eat me. Where? All right, Danny, why don't you start us off? I've got for my real monsters.

 

01:00:38:12 - 01:01:02:18

 

I've got home chefs that don't play to their strengths. You know, if you don't feel confident in that or they don't have any strength. Take it slow. Yeah. Take it. Take them. You've wasted so much time and so much time and so much totally. And hey, sometimes cooking is not just about the meal, it's about the preparation. It's about, you know, it's it's like any meditative art form.

 

01:01:03:00 - 01:01:30:00

 

It's your it's the process. You know, there's art in the process. There's enjoyment in the process. However, it doesn't seem like she's finding much enjoyment in the process. And it's it's not to say that you can't burn food. It happens. But she did not seem involved. And these home chefs, these home cooks that are just throwing away food for no good reason, it's because they deserve to die.

 

01:01:30:00 - 01:01:51:06

 

But that's why you got, But, no. And then, my, I only had one, real monster. But then I added this one in when Zach had pointed it out. And it's, people who in movies who flag down the people who are going to save them only to get them killed. Yes. Thank you. That's the worst.

 

01:01:51:08 - 01:02:13:14

 

I think the intention was good. She was trying to help him, you know, and I think the whole thing we talked about how she's not taking the time to do really process the moments and the situations planning. So maybe that is, you know, that we need that moment in order for her, you know, her arc to develop. However.

 

01:02:13:16 - 01:02:33:03

 

God damn it, Maddie. Yeah. Got him. He done that? No. Yeah. Yeah. Because John just seemed like, you know, he easily could have been, like, a prick, but. But he seemed like a stand up dude, and he was like, going to like, he was going to, like, save the muscle. Yeah, he was going to, like, hit him with a fucking rock and be like.

 

01:02:33:05 - 01:02:56:18

 

He wasn't just going to leave her, he was going to help her. And then, goddamn it, you know, okay, so I have two. I have, the screeching sound that the knife makes against the window when he's like, fucking, but she can't hear. It was just like, that was done for us. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, God.

 

01:02:56:18 - 01:03:21:08

 

I hated that. That was just so bad. Real monsters. Thanks for reminding us that. That was a. And then my second real monster is, HBO for canceling The Newsroom. So, yeah. Fuck that. I love that show. Some fuckers just keep going. The news doesn't die. It doesn't, it doesn't do. Yeah, it doesn't stop. Okay, so, Casey, what is your real monster?

 

01:03:21:12 - 01:03:37:01

 

I know you picked this movie, so you might not have one because it. I know it's one of your favorite. All your real heroes. More like it. It's probably more of those, mouth breathers. Oh.

 

01:03:37:03 - 01:03:46:16

 

That's all. Yeah. Okay. Then he takes off his mask and he's like, yep.

 

01:03:46:18 - 01:04:04:07

 

Okay. Okay. Yeah. Mouth breathers. All right. Well, now our last segment, is here. Would you survive a home invasion from the man in harsh. And here we go.

 

01:04:04:09 - 01:04:27:20

 

No hard no from Casey. Hard. Yeah, it's from our video I heard there from Mira, from. Yeah, I sort of, you know, it's a hard new. That's a hard no for me. Back. Since Maddie's mom. Yeah. No. And the reason is just because I would like to say that I would be like, oh, yeah, I could do this, and I would do that, but I feel like it.

 

01:04:28:01 - 01:04:46:18

 

But it's I am really good under pressure, but I'm still not going to give myself enough credit. I'd probably just be like, get it over with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean yes. Yeah, I, I don't think I would survive either. Dude was smart. You know what I mean? Like, he, you just he wasn't like, I just said, he had, he had.

 

01:04:46:18 - 01:05:08:13

 

Yeah. He knew what he was doing. Danny, what about, you know, for a couple of reasons. Before I got killed, I had fucking killed it with that roast, so I'd probably be chowing down on a meal, you know, I'd also be reading Midnight Mass, so I'd be way too distracted. Yeah. And I would just be like, there'd be, like, people, like, coming at me.

 

01:05:08:15 - 01:05:34:01

 

And even if I noticed it, there'd be that moment where I'm like, just be reading the book that you wrote, the yeah, I fucking love this is good. What happens next? She sees Sarah, like getting killed at the window and she's like, do I keep reading? Like, this is actually maybe an idea for a sequel? This is the favorite part.

 

01:05:34:01 - 01:05:57:01

 

Would it be? Is that plagiarism, Google plagiarism? Is it plagiarism if I see someone murdered and then write it and I don't credit, what do I use? Zach. Oh, I would not survive. Here it is. Yeah, because I'm too smart. He's. Oh that's right. God. I'm like, not remembering things today. What is wrong with me? Okay, guys, that's it.

 

01:05:57:01 - 01:06:22:23

 

That's hush. That is our second feature in our messed up triple feature. Danny, what are we doing next? In a violent nature? Oh. We're excited. Okay. In a violent nature. I am super excited to watch that again. I saw it in the theater, and it was really, really good. I know it's a very divisive movie, but I thought it was, you know, some people say divisive.

 

01:06:23:01 - 01:06:46:14

 

It's very definitive. This is a very divisive movie. It's very divisive. So, yeah. Check out, innovative Nature coming out soon. In a couple of weeks. If you guys have seen hush and you want to talk more about it, find us on social media. We are on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter. I mean, excuse us. Tick tock.

 

01:06:46:16 - 01:07:08:03

 

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01:07:08:03 - 01:07:35:05

 

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01:07:35:05 - 01:08:04:15

 

Shut it. Danny. Juicy cannon. Juicy. First. Where can our listeners find you guys on social media? I am on Instagram at Wolf Mother Casey. Okay, awesome. Danny. You can find me on various socials at my name. Danny. Slim. Danny. SA. Let me. That's two ends. Like the candy melt in your butt. Not in your hands. Wonderful.

 

01:08:04:17 - 01:09:04:22

 

And you can find me on social media at Zach Quintic. And until next time, thank you all for listening. Now go meet some monsters. You have diarrhea. Mask a mask up, meet monsters. Have they're not in that or you no. Well you choose. This is America.