Continuing our WRITER’S SHOCK triple feature, we’re seeing how long we can last through a mind-melting exercise in fear, faith, and five-star hotels as we meet an evil hotel room in Mikael Håfström’s adaptation of Stephen King's 1408, starring John Cusack, Samuel L. Jackson, Mary McCormack, Jasmine Jessica Anthony, and Tony Shaloub.
Continuing our WRITER’S SHOCK triple feature, we’re seeing how long we can last through a mind-melting exercise in fear, faith, and five-star hotels as we meet an evil hotel room in Mikael Håfström’s adaptation of Stephen King's 1408, starring John Cusack, Samuel L. Jackson, Mary McCormack, Jasmine Jessica Anthony, and Tony Shaloub.
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As a warning, this episode does contain discussion of suicide.
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Today we continue our Writers Shock triple feature with Michael Hallstrom. 2007 Mind Melting Exercise in fear, faith and five star hotels. A turndown service is creeping. The hotel guests are leaving. And yet another one of Stephen King's writer characters has to face off against a supernatural evil that may or may not influence their next novel. As we meet an evil hotel room where the amenities have a mean side and the check out policy is a deathwish.
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In 1408.
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You're listening to how I Met Your Monster. A podcast that explores the introductions to your favorite movie monsters. My name is Zack. I'm Danny and I'm Casey. And together, we dive into the world of horror to find out how filmmakers have introduced us to our favorite monsters time and time again. This is how I Met Your Mother.
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Because you own it. We met him. 15 years ago. I was told there's nothing left for you explorers in the regions of experience. Humans to solve. Ages two hours. Oh, here we go.
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Welcome to how I Met Your Monster. The show where we discuss introductions to your favorite movie monsters. Today we are continuing our Writers Shock triple feature series with The Haunted Mansion starring Eddie Murphy. Yes, starring Eddie Murphy and Mike Myers. Not Halloween's Mike Myers. Austin Powers is Mike Myers, and I was thinking of Shrek into why they do everything together.
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I know the did you know that every Eddie Murphy movie has Mike Myers and every Mike Myers movie? Says Eddie Murphy? They're like little Easter eggs. You gotta look out. So don't don't do that to the viewers or to the listeners. They're going to they're going to be so confused. So let this be a challenge to you listeners.
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Keep your eyes out anyways. But we're talking about John Cusack, Samuel Jackson, and Stephen King. This is not their first. Well, yeah. By the way, we're talking about 1408. Not Haunted Mansion. Sell nothing. Not. Yeah. we're talking about 1408, which is based on a short by Stephen King. Yeah. and it was this one I bought this book of short stories.
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when the movie. When I first saw the trailer. Okay, so it's always held a special place. is this from. So this is from Stephen King's book of short stories titled Everything's Eventual. okay. I actually own it. I've read a few stories in it, but for some reason I've never read 1408, which I have heard is one of the best in the, interest in the book, but that's why you bought it.
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Yeah, yeah. And I think it was one of those things where I got it, saw the movie, and then I was like, well, I just saw the movie. I don't feel like reading it now. Oh, I got this. Can't wait. Hold me over. Got spoiled now? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. So weird. There is sort of like, there are some pretty spooky stories in there, but, isn't spooky.
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So this was, like we just said, a Stephen King short story. But the screenplay was written by Matt Greenberg, who wrote the screenplay for the 2019 Pet Cemetery remake. And he also, wrote a movie that we recently watched on one of our live watch alongs. Halloween H2O. No. What in the hell? Yeah. What the hell?
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He's all over the place. and so it was written by Matt Greenberg and also Scott Alexander and Larry Karaszewski. I think that's how you say it. and those two seem to be writing partners. They've written everything from Problem Child one, two and three to Lisa Loveless, Ed Wood. That was them in the pitch for this movie.
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They're like, listen, we know a little bit about problematic characters. That's right. Like, what if you took Problem Child meets The Shining? I give you they already have that. Danny's little bitch.
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they also wrote The People versus Larry Flynt and Man on the moon, two terrifying movies. Is bona fide horror classics. They also wrote Big Eyes, which was directed by Tim Burton, which, is really good. That's a good one. Not horror, but it's good. and it was great. And this one, 1408, was directed by Michael Hallstrom, who did Escape Plan with Sylvester Stallone and Arnold Schwarzenegger, which I fucking love.
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That movie is sad, and I think that was I've never seen it that was coming out after, like Arnold Schwarzenegger was done with like politics and all that stuff. And he had, like taking a break. You wanted to get back and he came back and like, he is such a good actor in these later movies. I just love Arnold Schwarzenegger these days.
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and like, Maggie was really good. And there was that. I was that one, he had Johnny Knoxville in it where he was like, he was like a cop in a little town. But anyways, I'm very behind on, like, my post Arnold Schwarzenegger as well as, like, yeah, yeah, but watch Escape Plan. Escape plan is so good.
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I don't know about the sequels, but the first one is is really fun. Is it fun? Yeah. Wait. They're sequels? Are they? And there's there's two sequels. I feel like the. Don't tell me. I feel like the second one stars like Jean-Claude Van Damme and, who who's the who's Drago? Dolph Lundgren? Yeah, I feel like it's them.
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I feel like that would be the sequel, though. Like we couldn't get Arnold and or the we got the next best thing. no. the sequels, both star Sylvester Stallone and, and, I think 50 cent is in all of them as well. I never knew that Curtis was an actor. Yeah. He's in like The Expendables and should I try and.
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Oh is he in Expendables. 50 cent was in the I don't know about the first one but he might be and he's in some of the sequels. I don't know if he's in the first one, but but anyways guys, we're not talking about Shrek. We're not talking about the Haunted Mansion here. That's a good escape plan.
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okay, so 1408 Casey, this was your pick for our Ryder Shop triple feature. why did you pick 1408? Because it was on the list. Because it wasn't available. Okay, okay. That's it. Yeah. Well, so I haven't I haven't. This movie came out in, what, 2007? Yeah. I have not seen it since it was in there. Okay.
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Oh. So, I was very much like. I remember this movie being kind of creepy. I'd like to watch it again. So what did you think on your second viewing after so long? There were some things that I didn't like. Okay. but I'm a picky bitch. but overall yeah, it was it was creepy, and I like it.
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Okay. Danny, and you had mentioned that you had got the the book when this came out, so I'm assuming you saw the movie. yeah. In theaters. Had you seen it since? I have seen it since. just kind of casually. It's one of those. I mean, I was a sucker for Stephen King, and this is one of those, like, goes down easy.
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Stephen King adaptations where it's not as heavy as The Shining, The shining I love, but it's not something that I put on all the time. It's like a fun little rewatch before bed. Yeah. but this one isn't quite as, silly as some other adaptations are, so it kind of. It's right in the middle for me. you know, it's just it kind of ticks all the right boxes.
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And, so, yeah, I, I've watched a few times since. Okay. And I've enjoyed it every time. What about you, Zach? How about yourself? Well, I, I saw it in the theater, and I think I saw it one other time between then and now. so this was, I guess, my third viewing. And. But I will say that it is my first viewing since having a daughter.
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Yeah, because I definitely was thinking of you. Thought of you during this movie. I was like, oh, that was tough. Yeah. Yeah. Especially that like, like all the little bits here and there. But that scene at the end where she comes back and he's holding her. Oh my God. That was so I was like, this is always going to wreck.
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My jaw was on the floor because I was like, I can't believe that they fucking did that. Like really? They did that before. Shutter island. Oh, yeah. And I actually feel like this was a little I mean, no shade at Shutter Island, but I feel like this one hurt even more. Yeah, yeah. And that's like I said, I haven't seen it since there's.
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I literally didn't remember anything about this movie besides that. It was the hotel room. Right? so, yeah, she she dies in his arms, and then she just. And then, you know, I was like, whoa, that's intense. And then she turns into a bunch of ashes and he tries to scoop them up, and he's trying to. That's what seals he the fact that he's scooping.
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Yeah. To try to just like hold onto her as much as he can and like not only does she die she dies twice for him. Yes. You know he's got to go through it in real life. And then in this in this scenario in the hotel room. So that is obviously such a significant scene that it's not just because it's like so like visually jarring and so emotional, but like we'll obviously talk more once we get into this like discussion about what the point of this room is.
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I mean, you can argue that there is no point, just an evil room, but you can also kind of like, I don't know, it's like to say that it's testing people is a little bit of a stretch because it's so diabolic. It's not like it's putting people in the room to be like, you got to face your fears and, you know, find your faith and get over it because that seems so wholesome.
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Yeah, but it is kind of like putting the gun in your hand, so to speak, and be like, you're in charge. You get to decide your fate. But we are going to force you like you're in hell. Essentially, we're going to force you to face the worst parts. And if you can make it through, great, that's on you.
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If you can't, great. That's on you. Yeah. Yeah. I kind of forgot about everybody else, to be honest with you. So I just looked at it as another like thing, another metaphor for grief, like a lot of movies do. but I guess that would make sense just to him. But I wasn't thinking about all of the other people that had stayed in that room.
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Yeah. Yeah. And it could be that people are drawn to it. I mean, he's literally drawn to the room and they kind of flag this. I mean, they don't kind of they literally flag this. Later he's drawn to the room because he's trying to debunk ghosts. But that's like such a broad statement because debunk and go see how it does that.
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Because he's questioning his faith and he is kind of like forcing others to question their own faith because he's so bitter after the death of his daughter. So in a way he's kind of I don't know, like if like his whole life is based around this negative like just like spreading negativity like kind of forcing his views about life and death and you know, how hopeless everything is onto other people, whether they like it or not.
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Because I don't think he I don't think he believed in any kind of afterlife or ghosts or anything before his daughter died. No, he didn't, because she was like, am I going to heaven? And he's like, yeah. And she's like, do you believe that? He's like, yep. But you can tell. Yeah. And then then he's like, yeah, we should have come harder because we just gave her all this false hope about God and all this.
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Yeah. But he wasn't as bitter about it. Yeah. It wasn't like a talking point. Now it's like his identity. Dude, what happened to John Cusack. I don't know. Like he's so good. I don't think so. You don't think so. Oh I think he's so good. No. Good. He's the best when he's like. He has these little like, glances and looks.
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That was one of the issues I had with this. That's interesting. I kind of love him. he's good at going. I feel like John Cusack's good at. He's known for, like, his big moments. Like when he's really loud and, like, has his hysterics. Yeah, because he kind of gave me Nicolas Cage. Oh, right. Totally. And I don't like him either, so.
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Okay. He's like Nicolas Cage light though. Yes. Yeah. Where he feels a little bit more. I wasn't like, oh, I can't stand him in this movie. He's so horrible, blah blah, blah. There was just some stuff that I was like, yeah, I don't really buy it. I wonder if it was his shirt. I don't remember his shirt. It was very like Hawaiian.
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It was kind of like a California Hawaiian shirt and then his hair got kind of creepy. I remember the hat. I think I hated that. I feel like he brought that to say he got right. I'm wearing this or I'm not doing it. Yeah. Yeah. Like the shirt at least you could be like okay. They're kind of like contrasting the look of like a classic haunted house.
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Yeah. Yeah. Like look we're being so you know we're not he's not he doesn't buy into that esthetic. Yeah. He's not your typical paranormal investigator. Yeah, but the hat was his cool paranormal investigator. Totally. He's groovy. He's so hip. He surf. man, this is the third. No, that will. Technically, this is the second Stephen King adaptation that Cusack was in, but it was the third overall.
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Can you guys name the other two movies that he was in? he was in cell, which I have not seen that Stephen King in. Yeah. So then the cell, not the cell itself. Oh, no, not the cell with him and Samuel Jackson as well. okay. My only other guess is the language year, because that's the only one I can think of that I haven't seen in so long that I wouldn't know who was in it.
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He plays. He voices the language. Like, oh, the flying meatball. Dan. Yeah. Zach, you son of a bitch. stand by me. I know, I was like, oh, yeah. So I don't I haven't seen that movie in a row. He plays Danny. Danny Lachance. Yeah. You want to talk about a good John Cusack performance? Oh my God. Yeah.
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He's. It all started me porcupine. it's so good. Danny almost stumped me with that one. But I know your game. All right, well, you guys ready to go to New York City? To the Dolphin Hotel on 45th in New York City? And, I love New York. I love dolphins. Let's do this. Oh, God, I love New York, too.
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I hated working there, but I love I love the atmosphere. I loved being there. I just hated I do, I think we're probably going to move back there someday. Oh, good. Maybe you don't like Santiago. What sets Mexico in San Francisco? Oh, I don't like San Diego. I've never been there. I'm sorry. You know, like, some problems, you know?
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I guess I don't know. Then he's like, no, I don't like San Diego. That's why I, I don't if I can live there. Shut up. Let's move on. okay. Are you guys ready to head to New York City, to the Dolphin Hotel and enter room 1408? Yeah, yeah, let's freakin go. I'm tired. I need I need, like, a hotel room, and this is the closest one I can find.
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So let's let's check it out. I'm sure everything's going to be absolutely fine. Fine. Danny, someone just jumped out the window. I'm pretty sure that's the room we booked, but, Yeah, let's do it. We're like, I'll have what she's having. It's like the you see the body fall down and hit the ground. It's like, I'll stay where they're staying.
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It's like he's on the 13th floor, like, get there. And he's like, so. So we're all booked up. And then like, someone falls and hits the pavement and they're like, do you got a room open that's so fucked up? Oh my God, that's so fucked up. Well, this is a horror podcast. We discuss the dark and demented. That's right, that's right.
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All right, let's go to 1408.
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And the.
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All right, so our monster today is an actual hotel room in a hotel that's not haunted, but just the room is haunted. which is very selective for the ghosts. Like, why are they evil? Yeah. Why this room? Oh, because it equals 13. It equals 13. It's on the 13th floor. Yeah. In this case, you had established,
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What a funny little thing, though, that hotels don't have 13th floors. We're so stupid. It's so stupid. We're so just stupid species sometimes. Yeah, well, because the thing is, unless you build an entire floor and don't use it. Yeah, then you can skip it and say the for the 14th floor. But if you're using the floor that's right above the 12th floor, it's still the 13th floor.
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That tells you if you were an alien visiting this planet that tells you everything you need to know about the human race. Yeah. There's like a kind of a romance to it, you know, like look at us acknowledging, you know, superstition but trying to protect ourselves by avoiding it completely and just pretending it's not a problem.
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Boom. Humans. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen. I would do that. Like if I had a hotel I would do it for the whimsy though. Not like we're going to be superstitious and like this is just cute. Yeah. They should acknowledge it to be like there's a 13th floor or what's above 12. And two. What. fun fact about the Dolphin Hotel?
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It was filmed at the Roosevelt Hotel in New York City. Oh, really? Yeah. And there is a character, I believe it might be the first death, although it could be confusing this, but the guy's last name is Roosevelt, and I wondered if that was supposed to be a nod. Oh, okay. Probably. And Stephen King. So this story was actually never supposed to be a story at all.
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when Stephen King was writing his half of a memoir or half of a book on writing, it's called On Writing. He had written it had written the first few pages of fortune. So as kind of like an exercise in storytelling and then was like, wait, this is kind of cool. So he obviously flesh it out and put it into everything's eventual.
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But Stephen King was also quoted as this was one of his quote unquote, haunted room at the end story. So this is where I'm, I'm I might be tripping over my own words. It was either Stephen King who said this, or I'm conflating it with another writer who had said that every writer has to borrow the line from Stephen King, which this may have been his quote to begin with, every writer has their haunted room at the end story.
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Okay, and this was his. So if you know, like you look at horror writers, as always, like that classic that iconic like this room is haunted. We're going to check it out. so that was kind of the beginning of like, why this story was written in the first place. Oh, cool. Yeah, man, I love shit like that.
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You do like origin stories of of like Wolverine. I never saw Wolverine. They should have done. They should have just kept continuing the origin series, you know, like X-Men origins, for which, you know, that wouldn't have made any. But it was like it was like like there's the character Wolverine. And then there was like Wolverine, which is like an origin of Wolverine.
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And then there was like, yeah. Then there was like Stan Lee, which is like an origin of, like Stan Lee writing, I don't know, did he fucking make it? Just I don't know. And then there's like, Stan Lee's parents and it was a movie. It's getting through this. And pretty soon you're like, in this medieval fucking the Crusades, there's some shit I don't fucking know.
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I don't know anything about history. That spin off. If you, if you think about it. Yeah. So room 1408 at the Dolphin Hotel is just like an evil room. we mentioned earlier about, like, why it's doing what it's doing. They don't really explain it, but, you know, you can have your opinions on why you think it's doing what it's doing.
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but it is claimed 56 lives. That's a lot to quote to who's like 66, 56. that might be our highest body count. Oh, yeah. But it seems that the room cannot kill the people. They have to, like, kill themselves or just die in, like, some kind of way. There was a few examples that we get from Mr. Olin, the Dolphin hotel manager, played by Samuel L Jackson.
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He talks about is Kevin O'Malley. The first victim or no? Who is the one in the vents? Okay. Yeah, he's the one who, He slit his throat and then tried to sew it back up. that was a cool picture. I am receiving this information from the room 1408 page on Evil Wiki Evil fandom.com. you can come to this, villain wiki for anything you want to go to source for most things there.
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Yeah, absolutely. Waiting for you to vote for the next president. Check out the horror wiki page. That's right. There's something. Sure. There. there. now that I mentioned it. Okay, so actually, Linda Loomis right here, 56 deaths have occurred in the hotel, including seven jumpers, four overdoses, five hangings, three mutilations, two strangling, a heart attack, a stroke and a drowning.
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Well, who strangled them? I don't know how that's interesting. Maybe. Maybe there's, like, couples and one person strangles another person. Yeah, like murder suicide. Yeah. So. But, Yeah. So you get somebody, you get guys like Kevin O'Malley, who, was a sewing machine salesman who cut his own throat and then tried to sew it back up before he died.
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Dum. this says there was Mr. Benjamin Johnson's. Johnson's for this. he was a factory owner who jumped from the window. Yeah. Oh, is he the guy we see in the library? He reads about the microfiche. Yeah. Yeah. What was his name? Oh, Johnson's. Benjamin Johnson's. He had two penises. A guy drowned in his soup. Mr. Grady Miller.
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Grady Grady little Stephen King got drowned in his soup. I thought you said gravy. That was like it was. He was gravy. And then he drowned in the soup like it was fate, man. It was fate, dad. Why'd you name me gravy? Well, you'll see, son. See the person writing obituaries? Just having it. He was like he had to hold himself back.
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So much for the headline. It's like, don't do it.
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Oh, Gus. Oh, here's one that we didn't hear about in the movie, but maybe it's from the book. David Hyde, is a manic depressive orthodontist who slit his wrists and then cut off his genitals. Cool. Oh, God. Why isn't that in the movie? I don't know. Well, there's that scene where you just see a wiener in balls just on the bed.
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But I remember that scene where he might go to the bathroom and he goes to pee, and he looks down. He's like, that's not my penis. That's just a ghost penis hanging there. You think? okay, so that is a little, introduction to the room itself. and it's a high, high body count. before we get into talking about the actual reveals of the movie.
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Casey, since this was your pick, could you please be so kind as to read the synopsis for the film? 14 08A man who specializes in debunking paranormal occurrences checks into a fabled, for many special people. Like a man who specializes as hell. Isn't that?
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I've always wanted to stay at a fabled and. It's like a dream, but pretty cozy. A man. Who would you like? The king has the queen. Would you like two beds? You're at? no. Let's do one. One? That should work. A man specializes in debunking paranormal occurrences. Checks into the fabled room 1408 in the Dolphin Hotel. Soon after settling in, he confronts genuine terror.
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Nice. I think that's a pretty good, synopsis for the movie. we decided to send everything I need to know. Yeah. So Mike Ensslin, he's a paranormal writer. And like I said, it's he's trying to debunk the fact that there's ghosts. And he goes around talking to all these, like, hotel estates and all these hotels and haunted places and stuff and tries to, like, find out how they're doing, what they're doing.
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and we should mention this was like peak Ghost Hunters era. Oh, yeah. Everyone was watching shows about people. Not only it wasn't about them looking for ghosts, the whole thing was like, we're going to disprove it, we're going to debunk it. So it's like, oh, it's so they're serious. Like that means they believe they see a ghost.
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That means it must be really real because they're going hard. Yeah. Against the likelihood that they will see one. Yeah. So interesting. I've never I'm in the paranormal stuff but I've never watched any. I watched fear in 2000 show fear on MTV. Oh, that was great. But other than that, I never watched any like Ghost Hunters or Ghost Adventures or any of that stuff.
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I went ghost hunting with the ghost hunters from the show. Are you really? Yeah. In, 20. I've been nine. I've been to places like to do that stuff, but I've never watched the shows. But the place that I went, the last place that I went actually had beer, actually did an episode there. That's cool. Yeah, it is fun.
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I mean, that was like a, thing that I did with friends where we would just we would turn all the lights off in the house and we would, we would take out our cameras and we would essentially treat it like an episode of Ghost Hunters. Oh, yeah. Like, for sure, if you're here. Yes. The floor. Yeah.
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Take tickle my butthole. Yeah, yeah. Like stuff like that. But that was like, before you came out of the closet, so you had to be, like, really discreet about it. Like I'm not gay, but. Yeah, you want to be, like, if you go to my butthole, like, go for it. But I'm not going to like it.
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Oh, so stupid, you guys. But there's definitely a ghost in here. Oh, you get it? Oh, get out there. Was this.
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Was. You took out my butthole. Are you gay? I mean, like I'm not. You must know I'm not gay. You took my butthole.
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The. Danny. You told him to do it. I'm not gay. You dropped my. Did. Me?
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So funny. Okay. Well, I was going to say that my mom had ghost hunters come to her house, but now it just inappropriate. No. Yeah. Stephanie. She does. She writes paranormal books. I forget she does. Yeah. Family and friends. Listen to this. Or humans. I forget that people listen to this cause they obviously don't know you mean by everybody's human.
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Everyone's got some tick. I was going to say that you be able to do it for me, though. There just there's like some. And if you're a fan of the show, you understand that reference. It's right here. And if you don't understand the reference yet, stay to the end. You'll figure it out. Yeah. That. Yeah. Tell you. We'll find out.
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okay. yeah. No, my mom did have, she lived in a house that was built in, like, 18 something. in, drought, Pennsylvania. And, she had some ghost hunters come out, and they. I guess they like, found stuff. Cool. Creepy. Yeah. And your mom's interested in in that stuff? Oh, they didn't, like, scare her out of the house.
00:29:39:09 - 00:30:02:17
She writes books about it. She has. She hosts ghost tours. through. That's so cool. dried as awesome, I love. Yeah. That's awesome. candlelight, ghost walks, dot com. Check it out. Check it out. Pennsylvania. even if you're not, visit Pennsylvania and then check it out. Yeah, visit. Oh, that's a great idea. Okay, so now that we've got that out of the way and so.
00:30:02:17 - 00:30:21:19
Okay, so Mike Enslin, he goes around trying to find out, like, why these people are or like how they're doing this. And he, he kind of has this, like, negative, thought process where he's like, everyone's just in it for the money. They're all just trying to like, up their hotel sales or, you know, bring in the tourists or whatever.
00:30:21:19 - 00:30:45:20
It's all like a a gimmick. He's a paranormal pessimist. Yes. And so, in our first honorable mention reveal, he gets a postcard in the mail, that says it's from the Dolphin Hotel. It says, do not enter 1408 and that's all it is. So he starts like investigating this. He like, calls the hotel. He's like, I want to book this room that I could find available.
00:30:45:22 - 00:31:06:17
And he's like, well, I didn't tell you when, you know, and he goes up to like, well, what about next month? They're like unavailable. And then they just like hang up on him. yeah. But which he even sees as like, this is all for sure. Yeah. Gimmick. Yeah. They, like, even to the point where he straight up says out loud, like he adds up.
00:31:06:17 - 00:31:41:14
1408 13 he's like, great, you just want exposure. Yeah. This is all theater. He eventually decides to go to New York. He tries to get into the room and they like, won't let him. And he is introduced to Mr. Olin, who is the, Dolphin Hotel manager, and he's played by Samuel Jackson. and in an absolutely great scene, they have a back and forth in his office about why he shouldn't go into the room and how it's all a ploy.
00:31:41:14 - 00:32:01:04
And he's like, no, it's not. Yes, it is. No it's not. he tries to like, bribe him with liquor and all this stuff. I love that scene so much. Yeah. They specifically tells Mike no one, no one has lasted more than an hour in that room. Right. there have been four deaths just under his management alone.
00:32:01:06 - 00:32:25:21
And he started that day. No. but he like tells them how like you know. Oh I guess this is a little bit later as they're going up to the room. But he's like he's like no one has stayed in that room in years. And he's like, you guys aren't very sanitary. Then he's like, oh, we go in and clean it, but we take shifts and there's we go in pairs and we never close the door and all this stuff.
00:32:25:21 - 00:32:44:26
And then he's like, I won't go anywhere near that room unless it's time to. I can clean it, he says. Unless it's that time of the month. Yeah. Was is that time of the month? That was, also a Stephen King nod to the because he says it on an elevator that's fucking blood gushing, shining hotel. Oh, period.
00:32:44:26 - 00:33:23:28
Period. Okay. It's funny. Yeah, that's a stretch, but I didn't think of that. That's actually funny. Haha. Haha. yeah. And then he just straight up his like final like word on the matter right before he and Mike part ways. Is he just straight up says he's like, he's like, it's an evil fucking room. so like any kind of, performance he's been putting on up to this point, kind of the sincerity kind of comes in from Mike, because even Mike says later, he's like, he almost had me going, you know, there was a moment where as much of a skeptic as I am, like, he's pretty convincing and he's convincing because
00:33:23:28 - 00:33:38:29
obviously, spoiler alert, he was telling the truth. Yeah. And he's like, you know, he like, you know, you're kind of saying he like, is so like proper as like a hotel manager and he's like saying everything. But then when you get to that point, he's like, I don't know how else to get through this guy unless I'm going to curse out.
00:33:39:01 - 00:34:02:05
Yeah. And like kind of break my, my, is it stature? Is that the right, right facade facade? I don't know, I don't fucking know. Vaquita. Vaquita. Oh my God, big cicadas. Oh, it's it's cicada time. Oh, maybe that's why he didn't want him in the room. He's like, you're never going to get sleep. All you're going to hear is the cicadas screaming and the cabs honking their horns.
00:34:02:05 - 00:34:30:22
I might be oh, good luck, Mike. Good luck sleeping in there. Good luck speaking, Danny. Thank you. You have all those cicadas driving cabs all night. That was dumb. no, that during cicada season, they literally drive cabs. That's why Uber and Lyft is so big now. Because people hated driving a car with the cicadas. Yeah. what does this mean when in black Swan?
00:34:30:24 - 00:34:54:15
Black water. Sure. Oh, yeah. That's my impression. That's so many references. The Men in Black on the show. I don't see them, but there's always me doing that impression. She's done it like five times that I show her. In fact, she's never seen Men in Black. She just walked in the scene. She only knows that was me. Sugar.
00:34:54:17 - 00:35:15:10
Okay. She pulls off like her flesh mask and she's like a bird. Oh, man, I'm not doing that in front of you guys. Oh, not until it's time you have a crush. Oh, my God, formation that you are. No, I would, honestly, if I had if I had a flesh mask, I would look a lot better. Oh, this is I would not have done enough for.
00:35:15:12 - 00:35:42:24
It's, It's called for. That is uncalled for. You look great. okay, so one more honorable mention before we, head up to the room is the key that Mr., Olan. Mr.. Olan. Mr. Ensslin, what the fuck's his name? Mr.. Olan oh, and, Olson well, it in this show and is finally like, okay, like you're going to you won't talk yourself out of there.
00:35:42:24 - 00:36:06:21
I can't talk you out of this. I'll give you the key, and the key opens up. well, did we give an honorable mention to the book? Yeah. Shit. And the hotel shit. Okay, so, so far, we've got the postcard. Honorable mention. We've got the hotel itself, but how about we established that the hotel is not evil, but it exists.
00:36:06:21 - 00:36:34:20
The room exists within it. Okay. Without the dolphin, I guess you have 1408. Okay. See? And the funny that it's called the dolphin because later dolphins have sex with humans. What? That's. Oh, I get it now. Yep. That's it. no. Go ahead. Oh. Go ahead. The room is possessed by the spirit of a dolphin who was scorned.
00:36:34:26 - 00:36:58:14
Who is scorned by a human is like, you hear like this really scary weeping like you hear in most horror movies. You tear out just this little doll. And he's like, I just, I don't I don't want to get into this man. I don't want to get into it, Casey. Get it, get you got it. Do you guys know about the, experiments in the 60s with dolphins?
00:36:58:16 - 00:37:22:29
No, I don't know. I like where this is going, so maybe don't get into it. Did people have sex with dolphins? I don't remember exactly, but I know that, like, this woman, was in love with the dolphin, I think. Oh, and she, like, lived with it for for date, like, actually lived with the dolphins. They had a house that had, like, three feet of water in it.
00:37:23:02 - 00:37:40:07
you guys, is it time for how I met your Mom? So your conspiracy theory of the week hit it. Danny, I'm telling you that NASA is going to the president of the United States. With an earthquake like that kind of thing, a Secret Service agent can, like, throw himself on top of the whole Vietnam War was fought over.
00:37:40:11 - 00:37:45:02
And then Howard Hughes lost to Aristotle.
00:37:45:04 - 00:38:18:21
The third issue this year, conspiracy theory. Okay, so the Dolphin Hotel is named after the scorned dolphin lover of the original owner of the hotel, who died in 1408 after their heart was broken when they found out that it actually wasn't legal to date a human. Did the dolphin jump out the window? Well, it kind of dove out, you know, I feel like dolphins dive.
00:38:18:24 - 00:38:41:17
And that's why there's so much, like, ocean and water imagery throughout the whole movie. Danny. You nailed it, buddy. Thank you. Like, literally, there's a there's a ship. The room floods the first time we see Mickey's. Oh, not the first time, but we see him surfing. So he's got this relationship with the ocean, And that's why he's drawn to 1408.
00:38:41:17 - 00:39:07:21
Because he's drawn to the ocean. And he knows that it's like the spirit of a dolphin. It's like free dolphins are like. Yep. This brings up another question that I had in the movie when Mike goes surfing and he gets kind of like, pulled into the, under the body. They call it the undertow. Undertow. he ends up on the beach, coughs up some water, and some beach guys help him out.
00:39:07:24 - 00:39:33:12
Did you notice how far up the beach Mike was? if he just rolled out, that would never happen. I think it was a dolphin that scooted him up to make sure that he was okay. Because they knew that he. They can't walk, but they scoot. They skip. Scoot. Yeah. It's like it's a sand scoot. and they knew that Mike needed to have this experience at the Dolphin Hotel to kind of tell their story.
00:39:33:14 - 00:39:51:27
So they all banded together. That's right. They were like, save him. Okay, you guys, we're talking about this ridiculous conspiracy theory. I was reading about the experiments in the 60s. Ridiculous. And, this is a fact. So she didn't technically have sex with the dolphin, but he would get himself off on her. But it wasn't sexual for her.
00:39:51:29 - 00:40:08:25
She just didn't want to disrupt the lesson. So she would let him, like, have sex with her leg and stuff. Oh, wait, the dolphin humped her leg. Yeah. So they do scoot. He would rub it. He was scooting his. He would rub himself all over her basically to get off. Just like it wasn't. It wasn't sexual for her.
00:40:08:28 - 00:40:27:12
Sensuous, maybe. So the dolphin was trying to have sex with Mike Ensslin by scooting him up the beach. He was trying to scoot onto him. Yes. So is actually fulfilling the love story that started 1408 to begin with. That's right. Oh my God. Just unfulfilled love.
00:40:27:14 - 00:40:47:01
Wow, Woody. Okay, this movie goes so much deeper than I thought originally, but really beautiful love story. I'm going to jump ahead a little bit and say that I love the false ending. Me too. Oh me too, because I can see myself in theaters being like, oh, okay. And thinking, but I knew there was more to it, having seen it already, even though I didn't remember.
00:40:47:01 - 00:41:04:15
I was like, well, there's still 45 minutes left in this movie, so see, I didn't like see how much was left in the movie. But when he washed up on shore and he, like, cough up the water, I was like, okay, fuck, he's going to go through this whole thing in the haunted hotel room, and then there's going to come back and it's really, he died on the beach and this and blah, blah, blah.
00:41:04:17 - 00:41:37:27
And then you see him later, like coughing up the water again. And then he's like, in the hospital. I'm like, fuck, I knew it. That's so stupid and predictable. You know what I mean? Not oh man. That was like, yes. That was like, no, I love it because you got me. And it's it works especially well because the whole thing with these, you know, like between The Shining and The Dolphin, these haunted hotel rooms, that kind of trick people into believing one reality to kind of trap them there.
00:41:37:29 - 00:41:57:18
we actually got to, like, witness it from his point of view. He's like this. You're kind of lulled into this kind of comfortable space, so you don't even see the horrors that are around you. so it was cool to, like, actually live in that space for a while because it wasn't like, yeah, it wasn't like a moment when he was on the beach, like he was in the hospital.
00:41:57:18 - 00:42:25:14
Then he went to dinner with his wife and then this and all that, and then we went to the post office and see how he, like, lived like days. Right. That was cool. Yeah. Okay. Okay. for the record, Danny, excellent conspiracy theory. Thank you. Casey, thank you for sharing the information on the sex dolphin experiments from the experiment was to bridge the gap between dolphins and human communication, but it just ended up being like, oh, they communicate it.
00:42:25:16 - 00:42:47:23
They sure did communicate in a haunted hotel. They communicated right on its face. so is the hotel or is it not an honorable mention? Oh, okay. Let's give the hotel an honorable mention because, even though the hotel itself is the dolphins an honorable mention to. Yes, it's okay. We're just handed trophies out left and right. After that, we have the honorable mention of the book.
00:42:47:23 - 00:43:11:16
And that's because the book actually shows all of the things that have happened in that room. Yes. It's all like like police reports and and, pictures and all that kind of evidence. Photos. Yeah. So we have all this set up that we could possibly need before we're ultimately we haven't we haven't gotten to our first monster, but we have everything that we need to give us, like a really strong set up to our first official reveal.
00:43:11:19 - 00:43:26:18
The right before we get to that reveal, he's looking at the book and he's walking through the hallway and he's like, looking at the numbers and like you're counting down or counting up. I guess to get to 1408 and like, you can't wait to see it. And it turns out he missed it because he was like looking at all the stuff and he goes around the circle.
00:43:26:18 - 00:43:52:23
I thought that was great. I love it too. In the elevator. Wants him to leave. Oh yeah. The elevator. It's like, here's your last chance, buddy. The hotel is a good guy. Yeah, yeah, the hotel is good guy, man. It's funny, though, that there is. Is was this a plot thing, or was this a character thing where there is an elevator right near 1408, but.
00:43:52:24 - 00:44:09:22
Oh, and drops him off on an elevator, like, way down the hall. So maybe maybe that was oh, maybe I'm answering that question. Maybe that was cool. And like, I'm not going in that. Yeah, I didn't want to get close. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I thought he, like, walked in a circle, I don't know, the room was like kind of went around and he was like, you know, like goofed around.
00:44:09:22 - 00:44:31:03
But because you can also read it as the place is haunted, it's like the elevator is not really there. Yeah. So many trips into the supernatural. but okay, our very first reveal, 1408 when he walks in and, there's like that cool shot of, like him putting the key in, and it's like, you go inside the lock and all this stuff.
00:44:31:03 - 00:44:54:01
That was fun. it's like this epic entrance into what is ultimately this kind of unassuming room, which he even kind of calls out, like, this. Is it like, that's, Okay. Yeah. It's not the gothic, creepy old room that you're expecting, right? Right. It's just kind of. I mean, it's ugly. It's like it's ugly, but it hasn't been updated or anything or anything.
00:44:54:03 - 00:45:10:27
Yeah, yeah. so he goes around the room, he's, like, checking everything out. He's recording stuff on his little tape recorder. which will play a part later, but, he's checking out all the room, and he sticks his head out the window to kind of just, like, see where he's at and, you know, see that he doesn't stick his head out the window.
00:45:10:27 - 00:45:32:16
He puts half of his fucking body out the window. Even watching movies when they do shit like that makes me so nervous. It gave me lots of anxiety. I'm like, dude, hang on to something tight. Yeah, actually, there's a wind coming. I don't even like opening the windows in a hotel room unless they like open. Can you? I thought they couldn't even open windows in hotel rooms because you get, like, the top.
00:45:32:19 - 00:45:48:13
Yeah, yeah, but I don't know. I mean, that's an old building, so maybe, you know, it's true. It changed. But yeah, I think that's I think they seal them all up now. Yeah. They could avoid so many deaths in that room if they just fix the windows. they can't send people in there to do it though, because they just jump out the window.
00:45:48:16 - 00:46:13:07
That's true. But if they installed it from the outside, they should just fill that room with cement, you know? Oh, yeah. Anyway, make it too heavy. Breakthrough. Yes. Let's talk about what else we could do in. but he sticks his whole body out the window, half his body out the window, and then he is startled with our second reveal.
00:46:13:09 - 00:46:42:29
The clock radio, which automatically turns on blaring the carpenters. We've only just begun. Very funny that we chose 1408 as our second movie because in our previous writers shock feature, In the Mouth of Madness, they also play the carpenters. We've only just begun, if you want to know, it's crazy. Our next movie, Gothic, the main character is a carpenter, and their first line is we've only just begun.
00:46:42:29 - 00:46:51:12
Oh my gosh, I can't wait for Danny. I'm realizing how many lies you tell our listeners.
00:46:51:15 - 00:47:23:11
I hope they're not gullible. I tell soft truths. Soft. There's nothing. I tell a flexible fiction. I'm going to laugh. So because none of us have seen Gothic, I'm going to laugh so hard. That's true. Is a carpenter. I know. but oh. Also, not only does the radio go on, there's chocolates on the pillow, the toilet paper that he was tinkering with has been re folded.
00:47:23:13 - 00:47:45:07
and Mike is now under the impression that someone is they're really amping up this whole performance where people are sneaking in to prove that the room is haunted. Yeah, he thinks there's someone in the room, like. Yeah, hiding in the closet. Great line where he says, oh, a ghost that offers turndown service. Yeah, that was really. That was Casey.
00:47:45:07 - 00:48:03:22
How do you not like John Cusack? That he does? Oh, my God, he's so good. Calm the hysteria based on that line a lot, because a lot of the stuff that he did where he was supposed to be serious, I was laughing at like when he was like yelling, I will go out or I will go out. It made me laugh.
00:48:03:25 - 00:48:29:04
That right. That reminded me of, Freddie's Nicolas Cage. Oh yeah. I was there because that reminded me a con air. Con air. I just meant because he acted it the way Nixon's quarterback. Wait, John Cusack's can't here, dude, let me.
00:48:29:06 - 00:48:56:08
Know not another conspiracy theory. no. that's so funny that I chose Conair, like, instinctively, because maybe it was because John Cusack is in that movie. a lot of this movie is just him kind of contending with moments of, like, potentially supernatural moments or potentially performative stunt things that the hotel may or may not be setting up.
00:48:56:11 - 00:49:16:21
A. Yeah, but there are some like, weird stuff like the window. He does say that there is a moment before we get to our next monster where he's like, actually do want to leave because the window slams on his fingers. And he's like, it's but it's not because he's scared. It's just, it's a, it's for his health.
00:49:16:24 - 00:49:38:29
And when he calls the front desk they're like no we don't do that. No. Like the it's just very like they're just removed like it's he realizes maybe either again maybe I don't think he's really talking to the front desk. No. Exactly. Yeah. And right in his hand he thinks that they're still keeping this con up. Yeah. He's like, I'm going to sue you.
00:49:39:01 - 00:50:01:25
But we know. Yeah we know that. Like, oh are you in danger. Okay. So he, he talks to the quote unquote front desk. And then he opens up the window again to try to get help from the guy across the street. Yeah, yeah I was it's so funny. His like it's ultimately him across the street that he's seeing.
00:50:01:27 - 00:50:20:13
but when it's just his silhouette it reminded me like it didn't look like him. His silhouette, it reminded me of the guy I don't know, you know, the guy in the burbs who's, like, his neighbor who talks all the time. I haven't seen that movie in a minute. I, like, comes over in, like, each other's stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:50:20:13 - 00:50:40:06
I can't think of his name. He's like a character actor. You see him in a lot of stuff. He's the limo driver in, a movie we've referenced before. Blank check. Yes. Yeah. That guy, like, it looks like his silhouette goes. That guy. That's so funny. And then, like, when you see, like he turns the light on and he sees it's him.
00:50:40:08 - 00:51:04:15
And because he's, like, doing everything the same as the guy across the street. Okay, so I went there. All right. This is gonna take five seconds. Is it time for our next. How about your monster conspiracy theory of the week? Hit it. Danny, is John Cusack, the limo driver from Blank check? No. Okay. Moving on.
00:51:04:17 - 00:51:35:07
yeah. So? So the window guy, leads us to our third monster reveal, which is there's, like, a crazy ax murderer phrase. Ax man. this is gruesome. Very creepy. you only see him, like, in, like, flashes really quick, but he's he's scary. okay. But to your point, doesn't hurt him. Just scares. Yeah. So it's just adding to his questioning of his mental health or whether or not he really is in danger.
00:51:35:08 - 00:52:08:15
Yeah, where? It's like the room itself can't kill the person. They have to, like, take it upon themselves and, like, drives into it to do it. Yeah. And then but then he starts to hear his daughter's voice, which is an honorable mention, which makes him think like, am I losing it? Is this happening? But it also tells the audience that he's clearly dealing with grief, which you only get kind of like snippets of, and then he's distracted yet again by a next reveal, which is the ghost.
00:52:08:18 - 00:52:29:22
Yes. He sees the ghost of some people who have jumped out the window before. yeah. Yeah. Why are they staticky? Yeah, I don't know. I think that was just like a because in this came out around the time of like 13 ghosts. Oh, it's looking at 2000 oh seven years earlier. Oh yeah. And they said electricity doesn't work well or not.
00:52:29:26 - 00:52:48:09
What does he say. no. Yeah. Technology. Oh let's try it in that room. Oh he's talking about the magnetic key and he's like it doesn't work. So maybe they like suck up all the energy or something. That's that you know okay I like that. Yeah. Makes him staticky. That's a good point. Right. I think that's I think that's a great read on it.
00:52:48:09 - 00:53:13:06
Yeah. Okay. I guess it makes sense that it, Anyway. So yeah. Static ghosts and we're at the next honorable mention, which is Mike and is did we do it? Was that an honorable mention? I just write that where he visits his death? No, that is an honorable mention, when he sees his dad in, like, the sitcom as, like, kind of like a hospital bathroom or something.
00:53:13:08 - 00:53:32:18
I wish they explored that more. Totally. Because, like, at the beginning, they talk about his book and he's like, was the was the relationship between the dad and the son real? And he's like, no. Even though clearly it was. And then he mentioned something about his dad being a bastard. And then like, you see the dad and like, that's it.
00:53:32:21 - 00:53:50:27
They don't like. Yeah, there is something there to be, like, his dad was an asshole, so they didn't have a relationship. But then his opportunity to be a dad was kind of thwarted by the fact that his daughter died. But it wasn't because of anything he did. It was just nature. It was just. Look, we just made a Danny.
00:53:51:00 - 00:54:16:14
Yeah. That's all we needed was Danny. Yeah, I would have fixed it. It did hire me. And I said, no shit, because it's like, really pushing. They were like, we really also if you could fit in some. So there's there are these experiments in the 60s with dolphins and I was like, I'm out. Like, this is weird. Like if you can incorporate that somehow.
00:54:16:16 - 00:54:36:11
yeah. So the dad in the bathroom, doesn't really go anywhere. Yeah. Weird. Right? Why even put that in there? Because his past. Yeah. Like the thing that's kind of haunting him is his daughter. So what does the data to do with anything but like you or you just explained it Danny. Yeah. You just explain that to us.
00:54:36:13 - 00:54:53:06
Yeah. I think they either could have expanded on it or just taken that scene with the dad out of the room and just had like the little bit at the beginning with the book. And he did like talking to the fan and okay, so dad, get him out of here because, he didn't hit. He didn't make the mark.
00:54:53:08 - 00:55:20:16
Make the mark, hit the mark. It hit the mark. Never make it. No marks were made nor hit in. That's neat. Meet Mark in. Meet the Mark. But we did meet the monster, which came up in a little bit when the wall started bleeding. So yeah, he, like, starts like skirting the blood juice out of the wall. Yeah, it was so not bloody.
00:55:20:19 - 00:55:43:17
That's fine. Yeah, it was like. It looks like wine. Yeah, yeah. the wall was drunk. I'm going to stop. This is like the last thing it was. It was the wine that the dolphin and his lover were drinking the night that he died. He poured these two glasses of wine, and then the guy never showed up. So the dolphin threw the wine at the wall.
00:55:43:19 - 00:56:17:04
and so that's the imagery. Dolphins don't have arms. They can. You did it. He's like, I haven't you ever seen those videos? Or, like, they throw the ball, the dolphin and then he throws it back. Yeah. or like the dolphin. cases. Yeah. So Matt the. No. I feel like it's really relevant to the fact that the dolphin and his lover are drinking the wine, but like the dolphin, it's like the lover gets pissed and pours the wine down the blowhole of the fucking dolphin.
00:56:17:11 - 00:56:49:14
And it makes him so mad. So the dolphin spirit is trapped behind the wall, and he's got a face up against the wall, and he's just like, It's blowing wine. Blowing wine through, you know, the out the crack guy we have, we we understand this movie in ways that maybe the people who made the movie didn't. I mean, we've never had an episode where we blow hold wine out of our wall cracks.
00:56:49:14 - 00:57:18:08
I would love to blow a whole wine, a wall, you probably bush wine, don't you know this is so stupid? Okay, before we get to our next monster intro, there is a little bit of a setup where Mike thinks maybe I just need to wake up. Maybe this is a dream. So he kind of implies that he's going to jump out the window, but then when he does go out the window, he's like, no, I'm going to climb over to the next room.
00:57:18:10 - 00:57:35:18
Maybe I can get in. Yeah. in his mind, he thought like he couldn't die in a dream. Yeah. He's like, you can't die in dreams, apparently. And he's like, so if it is a dream, I'll fall. And just like, wake up before he hit the ground. When I hit the bottom. Yes. Which is like the room at this point is like doing its thing.
00:57:35:18 - 00:57:53:24
It's like, yes, that's a good idea. I did I did include an honorable mention here that I don't think we mentioned, though, is when he's outside and he realizes that there are no other windows, it's just a blank wall. The only way to go are 1408. He goes back in and the diagram of the room or the hotel has changed.
00:57:53:24 - 00:58:15:08
The floor plan of the hotel changed to just, oh, it's my favorite images from the movie. Yeah, yeah, it's cool, but this is what sets up our six monster reveal, which is is the ghost lady who swiped him when he's trying to climb back in the window. Yeah. and he falls and grabs onto the ledge. Yeah. That should.
00:58:15:10 - 00:58:35:23
I'm not afraid of heights. Okay, but when you still, like, put yourself in those situations, it's like, never, I could never, I could never, and nothing to hold on. They film it so well like. Yeah. Oh man. And I mentioned this before. I don't know if it was before a recording, but I mentioned this before, like I've seen this movie before, but my heart still pounds while watching it.
00:58:35:23 - 00:59:03:06
Yeah. because he's like, I don't that legends like there's the wind and he's hugging the wall and he's like trying not to look down. And you take one centimeter like of a misstep. Oh you scoot one inch too far. You're done for. Yeah. Dolphins can teach us a lot about scooting Alex I'm about on ledges boot Scootin Boogie.
00:59:03:09 - 00:59:23:01
new boot goofin. We get a lot. All right. So we do get a lot of pretty consecutive monster reveals because at this point, it's just he goes back in, calls his wife on the computer, gets biffed. Yeah. And then he's like, well, what if I go up into the vents where they did kind of set up earlier that like, maybe something's in the vent?
00:59:23:08 - 00:59:41:29
Yeah, it's to see like something moved like. Yeah, he does see that little little camera thing that he thinks is a camera. But at one point they look up and you see like a shadow, like, move really quickly. Very spooky. and then when he's in the vent, like, I love how people in movies can fit into vents, like, it's just so funny.
00:59:42:01 - 01:00:02:03
comfortably, comfortably and very comfortably. But he could he could put a bed in there, cause I know you. So this is where we meet. who is it? Danny. Who's the O'Malley? O'Malley? the guy in the vent, he's got, like, he's all dead, and he's like a corpse. But before you actually see him, you. There's, like, a little jumpscare where he kind of comes into frame.
01:00:02:07 - 01:00:23:13
And I thought it was a baby. and it freaked me the fuck out. I thought it was like a little baldheaded baby thing. No fucking bald headed player, baby. I thought it was the ghost from, Scrooged. Dude. Yes. Bill Murray's old partner. Exactly. I was like that, reminded that I was like, oh, my God, this is Scrooge.
01:00:23:13 - 01:00:42:24
He like, so it's like, pull him apart. And he like, yeah. He's like, Josh comes off like, this is Scrooge 100%. Golf ball comes out of his eye. Dude, that movie used to freak me the fuck out as a kid. But yeah, that's our seventh official monster reveal is, the first. Well, okay. It's the. This feels the most Stephen King.
01:00:42:24 - 01:01:08:00
Stephen King loves his, like, reanimate dead gross corpses. Okay. Coming after you. This felt very classic king. Oh, we do we do have our next thing is the. The first time I've ever seen this in a movie is Stephen Stephen King. Samuel L Jackson, inside of refrigerator. Listen, that was another thing that made me like, okay, he did.
01:01:08:02 - 01:01:29:00
I giggled when he started, like, freaking out and, like, hitting everything in there and, like, pull. And now I know this is 2024 and there are rules now, but this was a book, a book title. And I wrote in my notes. I said, Samuel L Jackson is the Indian in the cupboard. Oh, that's so funny, because he was like, literally what?
01:01:29:00 - 01:01:48:14
It was like a little guy. He was like, hey, but now it's the manager in the mini fridge. Yeah, yeah, that's the sequel. I love how that scene was shot with like CG. He's like a CG room because it's like, well, he's in a fridge that's supposed to look like hotel room. It's like, yeah, but we don't know that it's smaller.
01:01:48:14 - 01:02:18:23
You could just shoot it like it's awesome. It's, but that kind of brings up a question about Samuel L Jackson, his character, Mr. Olson, because he is in the refrigerator, which is just the room fucking with him. But then at the end, when Mike ends, when, like, sets the room on fire and he's like, he gets out and then he's like, you see Mr. Olson drinking his alcohol and smoking cigars or something, and he's like, well done.
01:02:18:23 - 01:02:45:01
Yes, Mr. Ends. And like, it seemed like he was actually menacing a little bit. Yeah. Well, I had questions too, about what his character is. Is he sort of like, I don't know, like, does he like, I don't know, is he in cahoots with the room? Right. Is he a supernatural entity or is he just someone who is very aware of it and he really is just warning.
01:02:45:03 - 01:03:17:05
All right. So in one of the alternate endings, Mike dies and Samuel L Jackson shows up at the funeral to talk to his late wife. And he basically was like, first of all, confirmed would like he was right. Like the room Mike succeeded in destroying the room, but also that he was very like anteroom 1408 that that delete or alternate ending basically confirmed that he was a good guy who was afraid of 1408.
01:03:17:09 - 01:03:38:02
It was not working with 1408 unless you want to, you know, you can go deeper and be like, maybe he was also kind of imprisoned by the room in a way. we're going to fuck with you, Danny. Do you want me to. I'm still on this, room 1408. Finn. Evil villain wiki thing. Do you want me to read about that alternate ending?
01:03:38:04 - 01:04:00:25
Sure. So this is what it says. the first alternate ending. the director's cut ending from 1408 was reshot because test audiences thought that the original ending was too much of a downer. This first alternate ending was used in the theatrical release. The original discarded ending had Mike Ensslin dying from his fire related injuries, but happy to see the evil room itself destroyed.
01:04:00:27 - 01:04:26:24
During Mike's funeral, Gerald Gerald Owen approaches Lily and Mike's publisher, Sam Farrell, played by Tony Shalhoub. he unsuccessfully attempts to give her a box of Mike's possession, including the tape recorder. Olin claims that the room was successfully destroyed and that it will no longer hurt anyone else. He later listens to the recording in his car, and becomes upset when he hears Katy's voice on the tape.
01:04:26:26 - 01:04:52:17
He sees a little girl walking on the cemetery grass behind the car in a dress, calling out as if she's lost. He then sees Mike's burnt cadaver in the backseat. Then he sees the same girl holding hands with her father. As they walk away, Olin places the tape recorder back in the box and drives away. The final scene is the gutted room 1408, where an apparition of Mike Enslin looks out the window while smoking a cigaret.
01:04:52:19 - 01:05:21:22
He hears his daughter Katie calling his name and disappears. As he walks toward her. A door is heard closing and the scene fades. I like that ending it. It works so much better narratively for the story that they were telling. They even have like some set ups. There's that one scene we haven't gotten to yet, but when there's this, the kind of like floating door in the room and he opens it, but they don't really go into what that is, there's no because then it's gone.
01:05:21:29 - 01:05:41:20
But the fact that later you said that you hear off screen a door closing, which is almost kind of implying, like Mike like that was almost like a get out of jail free card. Where it's like you're going to die in this room and if you cross it's like crossing over essentially there's just the easy way out.
01:05:41:20 - 01:06:11:06
Yeah. There's some kind of, it's ominous but actually maybe that was someone, you know some other again like they talk about God, maybe that was God and this and this reality. Like being like here. It's like your daughter's here. We're all here. Get out of that room. Yeah, and he still doesn't go bad. One of that Danny Gallagher would to say, see, part of me thinks like there was a, a part of me that was like, oh, is Mr. Olin real?
01:06:11:08 - 01:06:30:06
Because the even more shining. Yeah. The lady at the front desk is like hold on, I need to go get my manager. And then she goes and talk to somebody else and then he's like I'll take care of it. And then he goes away and then all of a sudden, yeah, Mr. Olin comes out. And so that's interesting.
01:06:30:07 - 01:06:50:15
Then at the end, it's like, okay, here. But that is false, I guess, because when they're about to go into the elevator, a person comes up to Mr. Olin and asks and says something in French, are you real? Are you real? Yes. We read well with the alternate ending to that would be. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
01:06:50:17 - 01:07:12:14
So this is when, you know, be careful what you wish for. Earlier in the movie, Mike is like, it's too hot. He's a yeah, a little bitch. And it's also I can't even sleep sweating. But then it becomes freezing. Yeah. When Mike is laying on, like, there's literal snow in the room. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's right. It's snowing and it's.
01:07:12:19 - 01:07:34:25
Everything's freezing. He's got a blanket. He's like literally has a campfire. And I was thinking, that's literally me. Any time it's like below 60, I'm just like, let me tell you, that was cooler. He's talking about like the like the circles of hell or whatever. And he was saying like he had the farthest away from, like, whatever. It's like so cold.
01:07:34:25 - 01:07:57:10
It's like. Whatever. He's like there's nothing there anyways. Oh that's a good call. I didn't think of that. But when he is cold he starts to see his computer turn on again and his wife is there talking and he goes to talk to her. But then, like an evil version of him in the computer screen, like, takes over.
01:07:57:12 - 01:08:12:22
and that's our eighth reveal. Mike in the computer. And, you know, he's evil because he gives him a little, little evil like Grant. Like. Yeah. Terror swoops over, as I say, wing wire and spider man. Yeah.
01:08:12:25 - 01:08:31:20
And, So what does he do that is that when the water comes out? Yeah, I know that the room basically explodes. the sprinkler started going the first time he was calling his wife. and then it ruined their connection. Yeah, but then the water crystallized into ice, and we all know that that's what reboots computers. That's right.
01:08:31:23 - 01:08:51:21
Exactly. Yeah. Right. So then this now it just is turning on and he's like, oh really? Oh, there you are. There you are. And then yeah, he's little evil. The little evil guy was what was calling her telling her to come to be there like, oh, the little evil guys. So evil guy on the computer. oh. And then we see, like, little like.
01:08:51:21 - 01:09:11:11
Yeah, everything's kind of getting fudged up where the paintings are turning, like, really scary. to the point that the ship, the painting with the ship, there's like the storm kind of comes to life and then he tries to whack it to stop it, but he ends up cutting the painting open essentially. And all the water from the painting floods the room.
01:09:11:15 - 01:09:36:16
Yeah, yeah. Pretty cool. And then he's surfing and he wakes up on. Yeah. And then you get that false ending, which is, which is so cool. And we'll find out that our 10th reveal actually happens during this. he goes on, he wakes up, he's in the hospital or whatever. He talking to his wife and all this stuff, and then he goes back to his post office because he, like, writes about his whole experience in this room.
01:09:36:21 - 01:09:57:11
And he's like, basically like, have a new book. I got to send this out to my publisher. So it goes to the post. You mail this one copy. I've been saved. Anything else? Yeah. And willing the US Postal Service is not going to. If this one. all of the workers start demoing. Yeah. You see the post office is like closed up.
01:09:57:12 - 01:10:14:19
They say it's closed. and it's like it. Sorry, we're not open anymore. and he's like, what? But you do have that great reveal because they've established a little bit of a friendly relationship with the guy who works at the desk. and then when he. The guy turns around, we realize it's one of the bellhops from the docks, from the hotel.
01:10:14:19 - 01:10:36:29
Right. And you're like, no, I'm. You are almost out. Yep. And then they start hitting the walls with sledgehammers and reveal that that is still such a fun little moment. This is a very cool reveal. You see the brick behind the wall with, like, the things sketched in there that says burn me alive. Yeah. Right. Oh yeah.
01:10:37:01 - 01:10:56:18
Well I thought that had something to do with the way that he burns the room. Oh. Ooh. It's like a little like nod like maybe the room wants, I don't really know why. Burn me. Yeah maybe, maybe the room is suffering. Maybe the room is just like the manifestation of pain and suffering. It's got all of these, all of this.
01:10:56:19 - 01:11:13:20
All of this pain and grief. Yeah. Within it that is harboring from all of these people that have killed them from act stuff and lover. Yeah, yeah. Yes. I mean it is that and now it just wants to be put out of its misery. Yes. And in the same way that it can't hurt Mike directly. It can't hurt us either itself.
01:11:13:23 - 01:11:39:13
So it has it's it's it's fated to watch and be the cause of endless suffering until someone else and it's own suffering. Jesus cracked the code. We did. But okay, you guys, this. Oh, Jesus. When he gets back into the room and he sees that weird door, but then his daughter shows up. That fucking scene. It cracks me up in the trailer for this movie.
01:11:39:19 - 01:12:10:21
They really tried to like emphasize this being horrific. So they make her voice sound like a monster when she's like, don't you love me anymore? It's like, dude, I in the movie, I just a cheap way to be like, oh, oh, she's a demon. You. Yeah. So stupid. Well, I kind of thought, like, she does kind of, like, fall into pieces, but I thought they were gonna, like, cut to, like, him holding a skeleton.
01:12:10:24 - 01:12:28:29
kind of like thing, like we've seen that before in movies, but, But no, she just crumbles. yeah. Dirk. Does that reveal? Yeah, yeah. Oh, sorry. 11th reveal when Katie shows up either. Okay, so I thought she was going to, like, turn into a skeleton or I thought she was going to be some kind of, like, monster.
01:12:29:06 - 01:12:50:20
Monster? Yeah. how does the room get all fixed up? It just kind of happens. He basically kind of resigns himself to, like, grief, and he falls onto his back, and it just kind of match cuts to okay, him and then he looks, and then you think it's like you have like a moment of, oh, he kind of.
01:12:50:22 - 01:13:10:03
He survived the night. He passed the test. Right. Well, that's after the hour was up. Yes. So yeah. The room that's all. That's what it is. Thank you. Casey. He looks over as he's laying on the floor. You see the clock counting down and once it, once it goes down to zero, then it does the match. Gotcha. He's back in his Hawaiian shirt.
01:13:10:06 - 01:13:31:12
but you have, like, this one moment of, like, respite from all, like, the chaos. And you think he has, like, oh, he did it like the room. Let him kind of deal with his grief. And now he's gonna leave. And then the timer resets and he's got to do it all over again. So here's our 12th reveal where he calls for the phone.
01:13:31:15 - 01:13:55:07
Does the phone ring or does he call? Yeah, the phone rings and he picks it up and they're like, you can relive this hour, over and over again. Or you can use our express checkout service. It's such a good line. And then you start seeing, like, nurses. Oh, I'm not earlier I said new, as in, like most multiple news in every room.
01:13:55:09 - 01:14:15:17
Multiple nurse. Yeah. They weren't playing a like like we'll give you everything you need, right? Yeah. Like, he's like she from the room. It's like, okay, you're creative in the first round now you're just kind of being. There's no they are. No. Yeah. They're like, okay, you can do it. You can do it my way. You do it.
01:14:15:17 - 01:14:44:09
Yeah, you do it. It's like, okay, look how sexy all these moves are. Kind of ruined it for it. The one around your neck, it's pretty hot. yeah. Auto erotic asphyxiation. Don't you need to never rent to rip David Cassidy? oh, my God, poor guy. It's not too soon. It's been a while. Yeah. It has. This movie's real title was kill Bill to Bill.
01:14:44:12 - 01:14:59:23
Volume for volume. Lessons that, for some reason, exists in a reality where Quentin Tarantino did do as planned. Volume three. I know.
01:14:59:25 - 01:15:25:07
Oh, okay. So, Mike decides to take his fate into his own hands, and he lights the room on fire with a good old fashioned Molotov cocktail. there's so much stuff he could have just set on fire. Which is funny, but, yeah, well, it's kind of like a like, backdraft moment where he opens the window and it's all the air in, and then the room just, like, explodes.
01:15:25:09 - 01:15:48:04
And, he doesn't have too many burns. I feel like he would have some more burns. The one burned that he has is on his hand, and he uses it to grab the fireman later. Like, I'm like, okay. Yeah. No way are you using that? Okay. I like, burn my finger. I like my knuckle on the oven. And I'm like, down for I won't write, I like, I can't grab because you're typing.
01:15:48:11 - 01:16:10:13
I made tater tots the wrong way. but this is around the time when Nolan. I can't remember the exact scene when he says it, but he basically says, well done. And that's what made me wonder before we got into, like, discussing the alternate endings, is, is he saying well done for destroying the room or well done for surviving itself?
01:16:10:15 - 01:16:28:10
And I think it's what keeps it kind of a little gray. Yeah. But to me it still doesn't. Even if it's well done for surviving, it's still not, it still doesn't seem what's the word like, malicious or malign? Yeah. I mean, he just as like, you know, 56 people have stayed in that room and they've all died, and somehow you've done it.
01:16:28:10 - 01:16:54:16
So the job. Yeah. Yeah, that's the way I took it, was that he was like they were beating downstairs in the kitchen. They're like, you see, people are back on like, look, you might that this is a guaranteed win. Yeah I took it as him being like congratulations for or like well done for for surviving. Okay. even if it was, I did think it was kind of menacing, though, because I thought, like, he was like, working with the room and he's like, okay, you got one on us, like I do.
01:16:54:23 - 01:17:27:01
My job on it is that it's it is. There's some gray area there. Yeah. but okay, guys, did you know, as we talked about before, hotels don't have 13 floors, even though they really do. They don't have 13th floor. So our 14th, 14th and final reveal is Katie on the tape recorder. Yeah. Mike England is back at home with his, his wife.
01:17:27:01 - 01:17:45:17
They are reconciling their relationship and they're moving out and she's like hey can we get rid of this stuff. Like it smells like smoke. And he's like, well, I want to save this tape recorder. he plays it and you hear Katie's voice and the wife is just like, her name is Lily. Lily is like, oh, my God.
01:17:45:17 - 01:18:11:20
Like, that's our daughter. And, like, fucking crazy. That's a great way to end this movie. What if you found out that Mike's just really good at imitating his daughter's voice? That he had actually, you. Is that Katie to Mike? Just staring at himself in a mirror with the recorder, doing an impression of his daughter. He's naked though. Oh, my God, just go.
01:18:11:22 - 01:18:37:27
That's funnier. And there's a dolphin standing there just nodding, like standing, scooting. That's better. Hahaha. Yeah, he's got a good dress that came out of the fax machine and he's got it on like a helmet. It's on the dolphin. This is where it's on the dolphin. Yeah.
01:18:38:00 - 01:18:53:03
That's that's. I that's Danny's live. The I said that's right. Serial jack. And I was like, well done because he was like, that was a great impression of your daughter.
01:18:53:05 - 01:19:03:12
I wish the ending of this movie was just like a random cutaway to a dolphin, like a snap zoomed to its eye and like a wink and just. It's.
01:19:03:15 - 01:19:13:18
Getting like, blow a little bit more wine out of his. Yeah. It's like, did you like, shoots it out? And then the zoom and then the wink.
01:19:13:21 - 01:19:30:13
This is so dumb. Okay, so you guys, that is 1408. Yes. In a hotel room. Yes. Let's now go over our favorite reveals from fortune oyster.
01:19:30:16 - 01:19:49:03
Oh. Oh, on here I please anyone. That's how they can just. They're on the goddamn foreign.
01:19:49:06 - 01:20:15:19
Okay, I think my favorite reveal. Not from our list of honorable mentions, but from our list of official reveals. I could not think of the word official reveals. Oh, cut. The fish hole reveals. I'm not even trying to be funny. I thought you were trying to say blowhole. And I was like, I was literally gonna say, you mean blowhole shot the Fisher?
01:20:15:21 - 01:20:40:16
All right. From our list of official or official reveals. I can't choose between the clock radio playing the Carpenters or Katy on the tape recorder at the end. we have to, though. I'm gonna choose the clock radio because, like, it made me jump. It's spooky. It's. You love the carpenters. I do love the carpenters. Karen carpenter.
01:20:40:18 - 01:21:01:24
Pretty fantastic. Casey, what's your favorite reveal? I'm sorry, Zach, but mine is when his daughter dies in his arms. It's pretty dark. It is, but it's a great scene. Yeah. All right. That was the most. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was really good. It's good. I watch horror movies. for the for the shock value most of the time.
01:21:01:24 - 01:21:24:03
And this one didn't have a lot, but that was. Yeah. Yeah. I guess hindsight does make sense that that would be your pick because it's very much your voice. Thank you. Danny, what about you? Well, this is also my vibe. because my favorite was the post office demo scene. You just love post offices. I do was sucker for him.
01:21:24:05 - 01:21:32:17
A sucker for mail, you know what I mean? For mail, mail. I don't, I don't I mean, it's it's like.
01:21:32:20 - 01:21:44:18
Oh, I just got it. I mean, you just got so the joke that I didn't know was a joke. I'm a sucker for mail.
01:21:44:21 - 01:22:05:00
Yeah. Yeah. I just thought those are really fun seeing, Yeah, it was visually very, surprising, actually, I didn't see coming. yeah. there's a little bit of, it was a ride. It also so fucked up like it did get out. So then it's not like he didn't get out, though. But, I mean, I meant to say he thought he did.
01:22:05:03 - 01:22:27:21
So it's not like he was. I don't know, it comes in a very unassuming place. Yeah, literally. And for them to literally rip the walls down and to find out that you've been in that space the whole time, it's pretty shocking. so I really enjoyed that. Yeah, that was good one. okay, now it's time for a segment that we like to call the Real Monster.
01:22:31:13 - 01:23:04:07
Run, run, run as fast as you can. Okay? I'm the gingerbread man, a monster. I'm not a monster. Here you are. You and the rest of that fairy tale crash poisoning my perfect world. Now tell me, where are the others? Eat me. You're. I have two. Okay. Go ahead. Danny, I have technology for making microfiche obsolete because you don't get those in movies unless it's like a period movie, a period film.
01:23:04:07 - 01:23:26:02
This movie was made in 2007, Danny. It's a period movie. a period, I guess. Anything. It's a period movie. Last year was a period of time. Were period movie. Exactly. and also might. Yeah. Despite all the trials and tribulations he goes for, Mike is the real monster for double parking at the post office. You know, oh.
01:23:26:06 - 01:23:45:02
Damn. Oh, you're the one. I was like, okay, my God, my real monster is Mike's driving because he double parked at the post office. But he also just when he in the beginning, when he, like, turned around, he just backed into the fucking you just like, slammed on his brakes, squealed backwards back into the woods. She scooted back to her.
01:23:45:02 - 01:24:10:04
He scooted backwards with the dolphin in his wagon. And yes, she has acknowledged she's here for it and he back the way he turned around. It was just silly, that's all. Okay, I did want to mention something really, really quick because this is a Stephen King adaptation I thought was a fun little fun fact that in the opening scene when Mike is visiting that little, motel Airbnb, whatever you invent, it's not an Airbnb.
01:24:10:04 - 01:24:27:14
But in here this is a period piece. There was no Airbnb, there was no air. It was just bed and breakfast. I was at the B&B. it says that you're entering Fairfield County. I grew up in Fairfield County, and so did Stephen King when he lived in Stratford, Connecticut. So no way. Little fun. Little not.
01:24:27:15 - 01:24:58:00
Oh that's fun. Yeah. Also fun fact off of that Stratford, Connecticut, there's a little strip of land that apparently inspired Stephen King as a location in his book. It. Oh, also, the library from it is based off of a library in Stratford, Connecticut. What is Stratford, Connecticut based off of? Zach throat. It's. Okay, okay, cool. What's your room?
01:24:58:02 - 01:25:23:10
I have three I've got heights. Just because they're scary. Scary? I've got hotel rooms when he's got that black light and he's going around and you just see all the fucking shit and gross and it doesn't actually work that way. You have to spray stuff, though, anyway. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, I spray stuff. Yeah. Already spray the stuff that's already been sprayed.
01:25:23:12 - 01:25:31:05
Oh is that true. Yeah. So we get a dolphin in here. But that is beautiful.
01:25:31:07 - 01:25:43:27
Mike this is a dolphin around and squeezes it stupid. the sea. Fuck the bow hole two Jesus Christ you guys.
01:25:43:29 - 01:26:08:18
Oh God I love it. Oh it blowhole. Oh hole. And my third, real monster is, something that is only at the beginning. For just a moment, it's like the preachy minister, people that, like, are on the radio and they're like, God is coming out and all that stuff. Yeah, because he's like, listening to that on the on the radio for some reason, which is weird.
01:26:08:21 - 01:26:27:21
and, those people just suck. So scary. Yeah, they do. okay, for our last segment on 1408, it is time for Would You Survive? Oh. And here we go.
01:26:27:23 - 01:26:49:27
I don't think I would survive this. I don't think so either. I mean, if you look at the odds, 56 out of 57, it's not looking. Yeah. It's not. You're not. I'm not selfless enough to burn myself alive. Oh. Me neither. Yeah. Me neither. I do love dolphins, though, but I, you know, it's like these things where it's like they change reality and like, I'm not you enough.
01:26:50:03 - 01:27:07:01
I am not strong enough. No, no. Like I just jump out the window. I'm going to I'm going to take a turn from your guys's answers and I would say I would survive, okay? Because, guys, I'm 24. You are going be sick in this. They would be like scaring me. I'm like, oh, this is good. Yeah. I'm writing it down.
01:27:07:02 - 01:27:25:25
Like, damn it, everything we give him is an idea. I'm like, this is good. Yeah, yeah, it stop it. They open the door for you. They're like, get out! Like, get out of here. Yeah. I would know, but I would stay at, I'd be at an Airbnb because it's not a period piece in my, reality.
01:27:25:25 - 01:27:44:02
It's it's now it's the modern times. Yeah, but he was staying at that hotel specifically because it was haunted. Danny. He wasn't trying to find a place to stay. He was like, oh, I need a hotel. I'm really sleepy. Let me travel to New York City and go in one very specific room. Wait, that's not what you guys do.
01:27:44:02 - 01:28:02:10
And you're tired every night. I'm like, I just want to, you know, like when it's like I'm. I'm on the couch. I fell asleep on the couch, and it feels like the the longest journey to drag yourself to bed. I mean, that's true. I have that experience every night, but I, like, drag myself to the airport, get on a plane, go to New York.
01:28:02:12 - 01:28:27:10
But then it's already morning and do it all over again. Yeah. it's like the movie. Oh, the the morning starts again. Oh, my God. All right, you guys, that is our second feature in our Writers Shock triple feature series. 1408 thank you. Casey, for picking that movie. That was fun. I do, I really like that movie.
01:28:27:12 - 01:28:52:00
Okay. time to check out y'all. Time to check out if you enjoyed 1408 and you want to talk more about it, find us on social media how I Met Your Monster on Instagram, Facebook x TikTok, others. or you can send us an email at how I Met Your Monster podcast at gmail.com, and we'll be happy to answer those emails, questions, concerns, all those things.
01:28:52:02 - 01:29:10:04
or if you have recommendations of movies or monsters that you would like us to cover on the show, please reach out and let us know because we are always looking for great recommendations. What are we doing for our third and final installment of our Rider Shock triple feature? Danny? Well, we are actually we are talking about period pieces.
01:29:10:04 - 01:29:30:06
We're going to a true textbook period piece movie, and it is Ken Russell's film Gothic. Okay, I am very excited to watch Gothic. as I mentioned before, I had always seen the cover in the video store when I was a kid, but never watched it. so I'm excited to see if that little person on the cover is in the movie.
01:29:30:09 - 01:29:48:13
I know, and then or if it's just like one of those, like, images where they just, like, make it for the poster. but then we're going to close the close the book as. Yeah, close the book on our writers show people future before feature. and I think we've got a very fun triple feature following this.
01:29:48:16 - 01:30:10:14
oh yeah. Two plans. but you'll have to wait and see. Yeah. Waiting here. Oh, yeah, I can see here, I hear it. You can hit. You will see it if you check out our socials. Where can our listeners find you guys on social media? Oh, I'm on Instagram at Wolf Mother. Casey. Thanks, Danny. And I'm on all various social media platforms at my name Danny Salem.
01:30:10:14 - 01:30:29:00
Danny. Sally. Enemy. That is two memes like the candy melt in your butt, not in your head. See, we knew if you stayed along to the end you would understand that reference. So I was setting up Eminem's. That's disgusting. I just.
01:30:29:03 - 01:31:30:27
That's what kind of look. It's a jumbo package. It's a share size issue. It's, Yeah. All right, well, make sure to join us for Gothic on our next episode. And until then, thank you all for listening. Now go meet some monsters.